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(03-05-2019 10:38 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Besides the ACC GOR, the ACC still has its exit fee of 3X the annual per-school conference distribution. As of 2017, that was $80 million and has risen. Unlike the MD case, every team has signed off on it and it has had ample time to be implemented. Between the exit fee and GOR, absolutely no ACC school is leaving or could even realistically contemplate leaving if it even wanted to.

That’s why it’s imperative for the ACC Network to start delivering fast otherwise you’ll see a bunch of schools that have options start to realize they signed a very bad deal and start challenging it.

I would be praying for the immediate success of the ACCN if I was a fan of Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, Wake Forest and possibly Duke.
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(03-05-2019 02:09 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(03-05-2019 10:38 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Besides the ACC GOR, the ACC still has its exit fee of 3X the annual per-school conference distribution. As of 2017, that was $80 million and has risen. Unlike the MD case, every team has signed off on it and it has had ample time to be implemented. Between the exit fee and GOR, absolutely no ACC school is leaving or could even realistically contemplate leaving if it even wanted to.

That’s why it’s imperative for the ACC Network to start delivering fast otherwise you’ll see a bunch of schools that have options start to realize they signed a very bad deal and start challenging it.

I would be praying for the immediate success of the ACCN if I was a fan of Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, Wake Forest and possibly Duke.

LMFAO.
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Todge you said the following to which I have a reply:

plus at this point the major revenue increase for the SEC SEC SEC was the network and that has probably peeked and adding Texas would not help that

I am not sure the CBS deal will be a massive increase it is for 1 game a week and the CCG that is not a lot of content to pay massively for

lastly I think enough members of the SEC SEC SEC are pissed off enough about not playing each other as often and adding two more teams does not help that a great deal and aggy would cry A LOT and LSU would not look forward to being in the new half of the SEC SEC SEC nor would the Mississippi schools or even Arkansas
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College football revenue from TV may be about to peak. But the CBS contract is 18 years old and is way out of date. The old contract pays 55 million a year. The most conservative estimate is 250 million for the new CBS contract. It is widely felt that in order to resign the SEC early, before it goes to the open market, that the contract will be north of 300 million. 350 million is the largest estimate I've heard. We'll know soon enough probably by 2021.

As for Texas or Oklahoma being able to add to that total the answer is yes. An addition to the SEC would also bring a revaluation of the current contract with ESPN. But even with the T1 deal with CBS adding either of those two only increases the number of high ratings games from which to select their weekly games. If both joined CBS would absolutely be interested in these match ups: OU/UT, OU/LSU, OU/A&M, UT/A&M, LSU/A&M, Ark/UT, Ark/OU and more. CBS currently gets 17 SEC games plus the CCG. I could easily see them pushing that to 19 or 20 games plus the CCG.

The game for everyone moving forward is content. The market footprint model is dead except for generating revenue for subscriptions to the conference TV networks and those revenues are past peak.

If the SEC just gets 300 million for its T1 deal with CBS our NET payout to each conference member moves past 60 million per year. That figure more than covers the LHN revenue difference that UT has been making over and above T1/T2 revenue of the Big 12.

And SEC fans can be pissed off if they wish. It has no bearing on what the conference would do. The presidents make the decisions and adding an academic stalwart like UT would not be passed by, and neither would making over 60 million because with them it would likely be closer to 62.5.
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CBS 100% declined to give any increase to the SEC SEC SEC for that contract when aggy and MU were added the only thing they gave to the SEC SEC SEC was allowing them to show games on other networks against the game of the week

the thinking of CBS was that they were getting the best game and two new teams even aggy (and MU meh) was not going to mean that they would get any massively better games for that one weekly game

known idiot travis clay had written how CBS would be giving big new money to the SEC SEC SEC and how they had to do it and then everyone's favorite thing the "look in" (which always turn out to be BS) was brought up

and at the end of the day verified idiot travis clay had to write an angry article about how CBS should just sell off their SEC SEC SEC content because they were DONE FOR when the contract ended for not giving the SEC SEC SEC more money

also it was a 15 year not 18 year contract

http://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/dollar...sion-deals

and as that says "negotiations on going" which resulted in no new money and the right for ESPN to show SEC SEC SEC games in the same time slot as the game of the week and nothing more

and it is an extreme stretch of the imagination to think that 16 or 17 games would jump 6X in value and be worth 2X or 3X per year what the tier 2 content is worth with a massively larger number of games and all of the contents for other sports

there is not a chance in hell that CBS will be looking to pay that (or anyone else most likely) and that leaves Fox and ESPN with it being doubtful that Fox would pay that and while ESPN is stupid and poorly run it is hard to imagine they will massively bid against themselves for one additional game a week that already goes against the massive number of games they have in the same time slot

plus the CCG games for all conferences are not bringing more than $30 million max and that has absolutely topped out even the Big 10 did not sell theirs independently like they had in the past

at $350 million for 16 or 17 games you are looking at $20.5 million per game....I don't think anyone is bidding near the same amount of money for a weekly SEC SEC SEC game (even the top game each week) as they pay for CCGs (even successful CCGs).....that just makes no sense all the more so for CBS/NBC/Fox and it really makes even less sense for ESPN especially if the other 3 mentioned are not going to bid near that high

and of course known idiot and SEC SEC SEC homer travis clay will be telling the SEC SEC SEC not to do business with CBS anyway because CBS made him look like such a clueless dolt and SEC SEC SEC homer during the last round of realignment (like the SEC SEC SEC will listne to that fool but it will still be funny to see what he scrawls when the negotiations start)
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... Why is it always "SEC SEC SEC"?
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SEC Network chant probably.
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(03-06-2019 02:14 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  CBS 100% declined to give any increase to the SEC SEC SEC for that contract when aggy and MU were added the only thing they gave to the SEC SEC SEC was allowing them to show games on other networks against the game of the week

the thinking of CBS was that they were getting the best game and two new teams even aggy (and MU meh) was not going to mean that they would get any massively better games for that one weekly game

known idiot travis clay had written how CBS would be giving big new money to the SEC SEC SEC and how they had to do it and then everyone's favorite thing the "look in" (which always turn out to be BS) was brought up

and at the end of the day verified idiot travis clay had to write an angry article about how CBS should just sell off their SEC SEC SEC content because they were DONE FOR when the contract ended for not giving the SEC SEC SEC more money

also it was a 15 year not 18 year contract

http://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/dollar...sion-deals

and as that says "negotiations on going" which resulted in no new money and the right for ESPN to show SEC SEC SEC games in the same time slot as the game of the week and nothing more

and it is an extreme stretch of the imagination to think that 16 or 17 games would jump 6X in value and be worth 2X or 3X per year what the tier 2 content is worth with a massively larger number of games and all of the contents for other sports

there is not a chance in hell that CBS will be looking to pay that (or anyone else most likely) and that leaves Fox and ESPN with it being doubtful that Fox would pay that and while ESPN is stupid and poorly run it is hard to imagine they will massively bid against themselves for one additional game a week that already goes against the massive number of games they have in the same time slot

plus the CCG games for all conferences are not bringing more than $30 million max and that has absolutely topped out even the Big 10 did not sell theirs independently like they had in the past

at $350 million for 16 or 17 games you are looking at $20.5 million per game....I don't think anyone is bidding near the same amount of money for a weekly SEC SEC SEC game (even the top game each week) as they pay for CCGs (even successful CCGs).....that just makes no sense all the more so for CBS/NBC/Fox and it really makes even less sense for ESPN especially if the other 3 mentioned are not going to bid near that high

and of course known idiot and SEC SEC SEC homer travis clay will be telling the SEC SEC SEC not to do business with CBS anyway because CBS made him look like such a clueless dolt and SEC SEC SEC homer during the last round of realignment (like the SEC SEC SEC will listne to that fool but it will still be funny to see what he scrawls when the negotiations start)

15 years from 2008 to 2023 is correct. Typo on my part it was late.

CBS gained nothing by the additions of A&M and Missouri. They paid for 17 games and that didn't change. The amount goes up because 15 years ago predated the big leaps in rights fees. An independent firm that looks at all present contract valuation set the minimum at 250 million. Right now the SEC's ratings are the best in the industry and it's not really close Todge. The CBS window for the SEC is the most lucrative for them of any college sports broadcasting endeavor. And it is still the industry leader. For Saturday's the SEC on CBS is their bell cow.

The SEC CCG is the most watched of any of those events and is frequently near the top for ratings of all college games for the year.

The SEC will very likely exceed 300 million for their time slot with CBS. And like I said we'll know soon enough.

ESPN will only have to revalue their contract with the SEC if we do make additions.

And while I share your disdain for Clay Travis, this issue was one addressed by Wilner. FOX is the one who set the new standard with the B1G contract. Live sporting events remain the highest probability for advertisers who want eyeballs.

Todge the SEC is still the highest earning conference by 6 million over the Big 10 even after their 50.1 million distribution of TV revenue. The SEC still leads in attendance, still leads in viewers, % of viewers vs actual footprint population, and there is no reason to believe they won't command a payout comparable to those statistics. The WSJ has indicated that the economic impact of the SEC is nearly 8 billion a year. The Big 10's is around 5.7 billion. That number is for business generated outside the conferences through retail merchandise sales and impact upon travel and lodging and other businesses that are affected by having the approximation to the athletic conference.

These are the reasons "it just means more."

And none of that even factors in what may happen once Alston is decided.

I don't expect to convince you to abandon your world view, but that's simply the way it is.
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(03-06-2019 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 02:14 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  CBS 100% declined to give any increase to the SEC SEC SEC for that contract when aggy and MU were added the only thing they gave to the SEC SEC SEC was allowing them to show games on other networks against the game of the week

the thinking of CBS was that they were getting the best game and two new teams even aggy (and MU meh) was not going to mean that they would get any massively better games for that one weekly game

known idiot travis clay had written how CBS would be giving big new money to the SEC SEC SEC and how they had to do it and then everyone's favorite thing the "look in" (which always turn out to be BS) was brought up

and at the end of the day verified idiot travis clay had to write an angry article about how CBS should just sell off their SEC SEC SEC content because they were DONE FOR when the contract ended for not giving the SEC SEC SEC more money

also it was a 15 year not 18 year contract

http://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/dollar...sion-deals

and as that says "negotiations on going" which resulted in no new money and the right for ESPN to show SEC SEC SEC games in the same time slot as the game of the week and nothing more

and it is an extreme stretch of the imagination to think that 16 or 17 games would jump 6X in value and be worth 2X or 3X per year what the tier 2 content is worth with a massively larger number of games and all of the contents for other sports

there is not a chance in hell that CBS will be looking to pay that (or anyone else most likely) and that leaves Fox and ESPN with it being doubtful that Fox would pay that and while ESPN is stupid and poorly run it is hard to imagine they will massively bid against themselves for one additional game a week that already goes against the massive number of games they have in the same time slot

plus the CCG games for all conferences are not bringing more than $30 million max and that has absolutely topped out even the Big 10 did not sell theirs independently like they had in the past

at $350 million for 16 or 17 games you are looking at $20.5 million per game....I don't think anyone is bidding near the same amount of money for a weekly SEC SEC SEC game (even the top game each week) as they pay for CCGs (even successful CCGs).....that just makes no sense all the more so for CBS/NBC/Fox and it really makes even less sense for ESPN especially if the other 3 mentioned are not going to bid near that high

and of course known idiot and SEC SEC SEC homer travis clay will be telling the SEC SEC SEC not to do business with CBS anyway because CBS made him look like such a clueless dolt and SEC SEC SEC homer during the last round of realignment (like the SEC SEC SEC will listne to that fool but it will still be funny to see what he scrawls when the negotiations start)

15 years from 2008 to 2023 is correct. Typo on my part it was late.

CBS gained nothing by the additions of A&M and Missouri. They paid for 17 games and that didn't change. The amount goes up because 15 years ago predated the big leaps in rights fees. An independent firm that looks at all present contract valuation set the minimum at 250 million. Right now the SEC's ratings are the best in the industry and it's not really close Todge. The CBS window for the SEC is the most lucrative for them of any college sports broadcasting endeavor. And it is still the industry leader. For Saturday's the SEC on CBS is their bell cow.

The SEC CCG is the most watched of any of those events and is frequently near the top for ratings of all college games for the year.

The SEC will very likely exceed 300 million for their time slot with CBS. And like I said we'll know soon enough.

ESPN will only have to revalue their contract with the SEC if we do make additions.

And while I share your disdain for Clay Travis, this issue was one addressed by Wilner. FOX is the one who set the new standard with the B1G contract. Live sporting events remain the highest probability for advertisers who want eyeballs.

Todge the SEC is still the highest earning conference by 6 million over the Big 10 even after their 50.1 million distribution of TV revenue. The SEC still leads in attendance, still leads in viewers, % of viewers vs actual footprint population, and there is no reason to believe they won't command a payout comparable to those statistics. The WSJ has indicated that the economic impact of the SEC is nearly 8 billion a year. The Big 10's is around 5.7 billion. That number is for business generated outside the conferences through retail merchandise sales and impact upon travel and lodging and other businesses that are affected by having the approximation to the athletic conference.

These are the reasons "it just means more."

And none of that even factors in what may happen once Alston is decided.

I don't expect to convince you to abandon your world view, but that's simply the way it is.

1. nobody cares how much revenue a conference takes in they care about how much member schools get from the conference and the Big 10 gets more per school which is what matters

2. the PAC 12 has huge revenues and huge expenses and pays out the least by far among the conferences so no one cares about the conference revenues

3. all kinds of analyst say all kinds of stupid things there were people saying the SEC SEC SEC network would pay out $20 or $30 million per school over and above other conference distributions and that of course never happened

4. remember these PAC 12 network projections

https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/pac-12-...works.html

According to a source who attended the presentation, those payout ranges were:

High end: $7 million-to-$10 million per school per year

Middle: $5 million-to-$7 million per school per year

Low end: $3 million-to-$5 million per school per year.

well so much for what the "experts" think

5. here are "experts" saying the ACC network will pay out $15 million per school

https://thespun.com/acc/florida-state/ac...nch-payout

that would be 2X or 3X what the SEC SEC SEC network pays out

and it would be double what the Big 10 network has paid out in recent history

6. no one is talking about any of the other things you mentioned
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(03-06-2019 09:05 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 01:10 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-06-2019 02:14 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  CBS 100% declined to give any increase to the SEC SEC SEC for that contract when aggy and MU were added the only thing they gave to the SEC SEC SEC was allowing them to show games on other networks against the game of the week

the thinking of CBS was that they were getting the best game and two new teams even aggy (and MU meh) was not going to mean that they would get any massively better games for that one weekly game

known idiot travis clay had written how CBS would be giving big new money to the SEC SEC SEC and how they had to do it and then everyone's favorite thing the "look in" (which always turn out to be BS) was brought up

and at the end of the day verified idiot travis clay had to write an angry article about how CBS should just sell off their SEC SEC SEC content because they were DONE FOR when the contract ended for not giving the SEC SEC SEC more money

also it was a 15 year not 18 year contract

http://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/dollar...sion-deals

and as that says "negotiations on going" which resulted in no new money and the right for ESPN to show SEC SEC SEC games in the same time slot as the game of the week and nothing more

and it is an extreme stretch of the imagination to think that 16 or 17 games would jump 6X in value and be worth 2X or 3X per year what the tier 2 content is worth with a massively larger number of games and all of the contents for other sports

there is not a chance in hell that CBS will be looking to pay that (or anyone else most likely) and that leaves Fox and ESPN with it being doubtful that Fox would pay that and while ESPN is stupid and poorly run it is hard to imagine they will massively bid against themselves for one additional game a week that already goes against the massive number of games they have in the same time slot

plus the CCG games for all conferences are not bringing more than $30 million max and that has absolutely topped out even the Big 10 did not sell theirs independently like they had in the past

at $350 million for 16 or 17 games you are looking at $20.5 million per game....I don't think anyone is bidding near the same amount of money for a weekly SEC SEC SEC game (even the top game each week) as they pay for CCGs (even successful CCGs).....that just makes no sense all the more so for CBS/NBC/Fox and it really makes even less sense for ESPN especially if the other 3 mentioned are not going to bid near that high

and of course known idiot and SEC SEC SEC homer travis clay will be telling the SEC SEC SEC not to do business with CBS anyway because CBS made him look like such a clueless dolt and SEC SEC SEC homer during the last round of realignment (like the SEC SEC SEC will listne to that fool but it will still be funny to see what he scrawls when the negotiations start)

15 years from 2008 to 2023 is correct. Typo on my part it was late.

CBS gained nothing by the additions of A&M and Missouri. They paid for 17 games and that didn't change. The amount goes up because 15 years ago predated the big leaps in rights fees. An independent firm that looks at all present contract valuation set the minimum at 250 million. Right now the SEC's ratings are the best in the industry and it's not really close Todge. The CBS window for the SEC is the most lucrative for them of any college sports broadcasting endeavor. And it is still the industry leader. For Saturday's the SEC on CBS is their bell cow.

The SEC CCG is the most watched of any of those events and is frequently near the top for ratings of all college games for the year.

The SEC will very likely exceed 300 million for their time slot with CBS. And like I said we'll know soon enough.

ESPN will only have to revalue their contract with the SEC if we do make additions.

And while I share your disdain for Clay Travis, this issue was one addressed by Wilner. FOX is the one who set the new standard with the B1G contract. Live sporting events remain the highest probability for advertisers who want eyeballs.

Todge the SEC is still the highest earning conference by 6 million over the Big 10 even after their 50.1 million distribution of TV revenue. The SEC still leads in attendance, still leads in viewers, % of viewers vs actual footprint population, and there is no reason to believe they won't command a payout comparable to those statistics. The WSJ has indicated that the economic impact of the SEC is nearly 8 billion a year. The Big 10's is around 5.7 billion. That number is for business generated outside the conferences through retail merchandise sales and impact upon travel and lodging and other businesses that are affected by having the approximation to the athletic conference.

These are the reasons "it just means more."

And none of that even factors in what may happen once Alston is decided.

I don't expect to convince you to abandon your world view, but that's simply the way it is.

1. nobody cares how much revenue a conference takes in they care about how much member schools get from the conference and the Big 10 gets more per school which is what matters

2. the PAC 12 has huge revenues and huge expenses and pays out the least by far among the conferences so no one cares about the conference revenues

3. all kinds of analyst say all kinds of stupid things there were people saying the SEC SEC SEC network would pay out $20 or $30 million per school over and above other conference distributions and that of course never happened

4. remember these PAC 12 network projections

https://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/pac-12-...works.html

According to a source who attended the presentation, those payout ranges were:

High end: $7 million-to-$10 million per school per year

Middle: $5 million-to-$7 million per school per year

Low end: $3 million-to-$5 million per school per year.

well so much for what the "experts" think

5. here are "experts" saying the ACC network will pay out $15 million per school

https://thespun.com/acc/florida-state/ac...nch-payout

that would be 2X or 3X what the SEC SEC SEC network pays out

and it would be double what the Big 10 network has paid out in recent history

6. no one is talking about any of the other things you mentioned

That just proves that you have zero credibility. I gave you the reasons the SEC will get more and you counter with nothing really but what you want to believe. Which is after all all you ever do.

The Big 10 paid out 5 million more than the SEC in TV revenue this past year and still their average school generates 6 million less than the average SEC school. Attendance, donations for tickets, and ticket costs account for most of the difference. When the smoke clears on the SEC's upcoming contract things will be right back where they were before the FOX deal with the Big 10.

I wasn't talking about the PAC, or the ACC. But I expected a straw man diversion.

But as I said I didn't expect you to change your monotone tune either. Carry on Todge but it sure seems to me you are wanting buy something painted orange.
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you are not even talking about anything meaningful to the thread

this thread was started talking about the GOR for the ACC and the Big 12

I pointed out correctly that no matter what the Big 12 has for a GOR the Big 12 also has a 99 year contract for conference membership signed in 2012

I pointed out that the Big 12 including 8 of the current members has successfully defended a contract just like that with 4 other teams that paid to leave the Big 12 and I pointed out that two other members of the Big 12 paid to leave the Big East

and I pointed out that the cost for Maryland to leave the ACC was over $30 million so there is no reason to believe that any member that wants to leave the Big 12 is just going to walk away with no cost because the GOR (which is an entirely different contract than the contract for conference membership) has ended

I then pointed out that there is nothing at all that supports the idea that somehow the PAC 12 would be able to lure 4 teams from the Big 12 especially Texas when Texas is making $20+ million more than the PAC 12 payout and it makes no sense to pay 14 to 16 teams enough money to have Texas be one of those teams in the PAC when networks could simply pay 10 teams in the Big 12 to keep Texas there

there is nothing financially that would prove otherwise and I pointed out that the LHN goes several years past the Big 12 TV deals and there is ZERO to suggest that Texas being a part of the PAC 12 network would help that and there is NOTHING that suggest it would especially in any meaningful amount to lure Texas to the PAC 12

then someone ask about the CBS deal and the PUF with the SEC SEC SEC

I pointed out that the PUF has nothing to do with athletics, it is not near the amount of wealth it is made out to be and the use of it is highly restricted and that Texas has a spending problem not a revenue problem so the PUF does not factor into helping Texas pay to leave the Big 12 or dealing with any cost of leaving the Big 12

then I gave my opinion that I do not see the 16 or 17 games for the CBS deal with the SEC SEC SEC paying massive new dollars when that deal expires and I pointed out correctly that there was no increase with aggy and MU (no matter what all the idiot experts and known idiot travis clay thought would happen) with that CBS deal or even with a "look in" for the SEC SEC SEC tier2 deal

and I gave my opinion that adding Texas would not contribute to massively increasing that CBS deal with the SEC SEC SEC because that deal is still one game a week

then you came along and tried to claim that deal would increase 5X or 6X with nothing but your opinion to support that

I replied that I feel that is incorrect and that a lot of experts that have made predictions about things like that in the past have been massively wrong and you never hear from them again

then you started to get your feelings hurt that I did not think he SEC SEC SEC would just keep getting massive new money and started to bring Big 10 revenues up (with it pretty well known that the Big 10 will payout more per team than the SEC SEC SEC) and you started to bring up ticket sales, stajium size, parking spaces near the stajium, parking revenues, hot dog cost for the SEC SEC SEC Vs the MAC and a bunch of other nonsense that has nothing to do with the end of the GOR for the Big 12 or ACC and nothing to do with what it would take to lure Texas from the Big 12 to another conference

and it had nothing to do with the fact that it will cost Texas and anyone else a lot of money to leave the Big 12 even if the GOR has ended because the 99 year contract for conference membership is not ending and those have been successfully defended multiple times in the past including Texas taking revenue from defending it from 4 other teams

I also pointed out (correctly) that in the past Texas has openly stated they do not wish to be in the SEC SEC SEC although things do change.....but I do not think a few million here or there will change that

you seem to believe that the SEC SEC SEC will get $250 to $350 million for 16 or 17 games and I believe that $20+ million per game is very high for regular season games no matter how many seats SEC SEC SEC stajiums have or what the popcorn cost in the SEC SEC SEC Vs the Atlantic 10 and I correctly pointed out that even CCGs for the major conferences only pay out about $20 to $25 million and that hurt your feelings more and you again talked about parking and Tshirt sales for the SEC SEC SEC Vs the Sunbelt

none of that changes the fact that Texas makes over $50 million per year for TV money when you include the LHN, Texas would have to pay a lot of money to leave the Big 12 and there is nothing that really supports that the SEC SEC SEC will get $250 to $350 million for content they currently get $55 million for......other than the opinions of paid shills that are often wrong as I correctly pointed out with people thinking that CBS would have to pay more because aggy and MU came to the SEC SEC SEC (CBS paid nothing) and that the PAC 12 network is not even paying out an amount equal to the lowest expected payout (by "experts") and that some fools expect the ACC network to pay out 2X or 3X what the SEC SEC SEC network pays out or 2X what the Big 10 network pays out...which is ridiculous and if that was remotely true why did ESPN wait as long as possible to even try and put that network together.....well because even as poorly as ESPN is run they are still not making wildly stupid predictions about payouts for media rights nor are they buying into them

Texas does not care how many seats the stajiums in the SEC SEC SEC hold, or the cost of a corn dog at LSU, or what parking goes for at Ole' Miss and Texas might care if somehow the SEC SEC SEC was paying out $10+ million more per year than Texas gets from the Big 12 and LHN, but even then the SEC SEC SEC might not be the best place for Texas

and number of members in the marching bands in the SEC SEC SEC and the cost of a bag of ice at a SEC SEC SEC tailgate does not mean that the SEC SEC SEC will get $250 to $350 million for 16 or 17 games that they currently get $55 million for nor does it really support that position

but showing that a lot of "experts" have made stupid high predictions about media payouts in the past and been wildly wrong does support the idea that $250 or $350 million seems extremely high for those 16 or 17 games

and lastly the Big 10 deal with Fox is for about 25 football games and 50 basketball games

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Dail...g-Ten.aspx

and it is for about $250 million per year

so thinking that the SEC SEC SEC will get that same amount of money or more for only 16 or 17 football games is quite the stretch of the imaginaion and reality and that is without regards to the price of a Hot Toddy at an Ole' Miss game so please do not reply with more of those type of "facts"

reply with something that supports the idea that the SEC SEC SEC will get the same or $100 million more for 8+ fewer football games and 50 less basketball games

the SeC sEc SeC Is Da BiGgEsT aNd badeSt EvAr does not really provide a persuasive argument

much less does it support that the SEC SEC SEC or any other conference will lure Texas away from the Big 12
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2019 01:44 AM by TodgeRodge.)
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