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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-09-2019 06:53 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-09-2019 03:16 PM)esayem Wrote: With Oklahoma, and presumably Texas A&M, off the table as far as a season ending rivalry for Texas, I believe Houston has the highest ceiling for that spot. Houston has a ton of alumni (and counting) and has proven they are contributing the dough to play at the highest level. When the game is at Houston it could be played in the NFL stadium, or not. This proposal comes with a lot of "they aren't our rivals", "they're a commuter school", "why would we elevate them?" Fair responses for sure, but Texas supposedly supported Houston's entrance to the Big XII, and playing them on Thanksgiving doesn't require the Cougars to be Big XII members. I noticed at College Hoops GameDay last week that the only signs I saw regarding a "rival" were anti-Texas Longhorns. This rivalry reminds me of UK-Louisville where Louisville banged on the door until they couldn't be ignored any longer.
I also believe BYU would be a great season ending bout for the Longhorns. It may not be traditional, but it would be a great match-up between two storied programs that can stand on their own. In other words, there wouldn't be the sort of little brother factor with Houston, or say Texas Tech.
I believe Houston to be the best fit because Texas fans could easily travel when the game is on the road. Of course, TCU and Baylor could also work if the 'horns want to stay in-conference. Baylor being much closer and an easier travel experience seems to be the logical choice. The Big XII would benefit from playing teams out of conference during the final weekend to avoid any possible rematches. Texas-A&M (ideal), but could be Texas-UH/BYU, TCU-SMU, Baylor-Rice, TTU-UTEP/UNM, OU-NU, KU-Mizzou, ISU-Iowa, WVU-Pitt, etc. Logistically it would be tough, but as far as a consistent Rivalry Week, it would be pretty damn cool.
Texas has an intense hate of Houston after bleacher gate. They already tried a rotating thanksgiving day after game with TCU and Tech that was only okay. Baylor isn’t interested in being a rebound A&M and are more happy playing TCU in that slot with Texas being the last game of the season.
There is no replacing TAMU for the Big 12 South teams, but there is certainly moving on. Kansas and KState became much more important to each other after Missouri left, same is true for the Texas Big 12 schools.
I admire the arrogance from a fan of a school that was likely headed to the minors with TCU during PAC 12 negotiations.
I'm glad Tech is moving the Tech/Baylor game back to H/H so we can schedule better opponents in DFW.
Nothing verified but I understand the UT/Tech game will rotate H/H between Austin and Lubbock on Turkey weekend. Initially, it won't be UT vs the other school that can't be mentioned but 2 of the 3 biggest fan bases in Texas could make it interesting instead of watching the cowgirls lose. Baylor and TCU can have that weekend in front of 25k fans.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-10-2019 12:10 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote: (03-09-2019 06:53 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-09-2019 03:16 PM)esayem Wrote: With Oklahoma, and presumably Texas A&M, off the table as far as a season ending rivalry for Texas, I believe Houston has the highest ceiling for that spot. Houston has a ton of alumni (and counting) and has proven they are contributing the dough to play at the highest level. When the game is at Houston it could be played in the NFL stadium, or not. This proposal comes with a lot of "they aren't our rivals", "they're a commuter school", "why would we elevate them?" Fair responses for sure, but Texas supposedly supported Houston's entrance to the Big XII, and playing them on Thanksgiving doesn't require the Cougars to be Big XII members. I noticed at College Hoops GameDay last week that the only signs I saw regarding a "rival" were anti-Texas Longhorns. This rivalry reminds me of UK-Louisville where Louisville banged on the door until they couldn't be ignored any longer.
I also believe BYU would be a great season ending bout for the Longhorns. It may not be traditional, but it would be a great match-up between two storied programs that can stand on their own. In other words, there wouldn't be the sort of little brother factor with Houston, or say Texas Tech.
I believe Houston to be the best fit because Texas fans could easily travel when the game is on the road. Of course, TCU and Baylor could also work if the 'horns want to stay in-conference. Baylor being much closer and an easier travel experience seems to be the logical choice. The Big XII would benefit from playing teams out of conference during the final weekend to avoid any possible rematches. Texas-A&M (ideal), but could be Texas-UH/BYU, TCU-SMU, Baylor-Rice, TTU-UTEP/UNM, OU-NU, KU-Mizzou, ISU-Iowa, WVU-Pitt, etc. Logistically it would be tough, but as far as a consistent Rivalry Week, it would be pretty damn cool.
Texas has an intense hate of Houston after bleacher gate. They already tried a rotating thanksgiving day after game with TCU and Tech that was only okay. Baylor isn’t interested in being a rebound A&M and are more happy playing TCU in that slot with Texas being the last game of the season.
There is no replacing TAMU for the Big 12 South teams, but there is certainly moving on. Kansas and KState became much more important to each other after Missouri left, same is true for the Texas Big 12 schools.
I admire the arrogance from a fan of a school that was likely headed to the minors with TCU during PAC 12 negotiations.
I'm glad Tech is moving the Tech/Baylor game back to H/H so we can schedule better opponents in DFW.
Nothing verified but I understand the UT/Tech game will rotate H/H between Austin and Lubbock on Turkey weekend. Initially, it won't be UT vs the other school that can't be mentioned but 2 of the 3 biggest fan bases in Texas could make it interesting instead of watching the cowgirls lose. Baylor and TCU can have that weekend in front of 25k fans.
You call others arrogant for simply stating the truth? Tech isn’t A&M to uT and never will be. It’s an important game to both schools, sure, but it isn’t the same as playing TAMU. I am certain Tech fans feel the same way about playing TCU, Baylor, and Texas in that each of those schools have their own merits and history but none can be a true replacement for the TAMU game. The only solution is to move forward and embrace the existing rivalries and games we do have. That isn’t arrogance.
I’m always surprised when Tech fans come out of the woodwork with the most tremendous chips on their shoulders about their place in the Bug 12. Only a Tech fan could read my previous post and view as some sort of slant against Tech and its unique place in the Big 12. Maybe the sand aggy moniker is more correct than I wanted to believe?
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-10-2019 01:09 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-10-2019 12:10 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote: (03-09-2019 06:53 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-09-2019 03:16 PM)esayem Wrote: With Oklahoma, and presumably Texas A&M, off the table as far as a season ending rivalry for Texas, I believe Houston has the highest ceiling for that spot. Houston has a ton of alumni (and counting) and has proven they are contributing the dough to play at the highest level. When the game is at Houston it could be played in the NFL stadium, or not. This proposal comes with a lot of "they aren't our rivals", "they're a commuter school", "why would we elevate them?" Fair responses for sure, but Texas supposedly supported Houston's entrance to the Big XII, and playing them on Thanksgiving doesn't require the Cougars to be Big XII members. I noticed at College Hoops GameDay last week that the only signs I saw regarding a "rival" were anti-Texas Longhorns. This rivalry reminds me of UK-Louisville where Louisville banged on the door until they couldn't be ignored any longer.
I also believe BYU would be a great season ending bout for the Longhorns. It may not be traditional, but it would be a great match-up between two storied programs that can stand on their own. In other words, there wouldn't be the sort of little brother factor with Houston, or say Texas Tech.
I believe Houston to be the best fit because Texas fans could easily travel when the game is on the road. Of course, TCU and Baylor could also work if the 'horns want to stay in-conference. Baylor being much closer and an easier travel experience seems to be the logical choice. The Big XII would benefit from playing teams out of conference during the final weekend to avoid any possible rematches. Texas-A&M (ideal), but could be Texas-UH/BYU, TCU-SMU, Baylor-Rice, TTU-UTEP/UNM, OU-NU, KU-Mizzou, ISU-Iowa, WVU-Pitt, etc. Logistically it would be tough, but as far as a consistent Rivalry Week, it would be pretty damn cool.
Texas has an intense hate of Houston after bleacher gate. They already tried a rotating thanksgiving day after game with TCU and Tech that was only okay. Baylor isn’t interested in being a rebound A&M and are more happy playing TCU in that slot with Texas being the last game of the season.
There is no replacing TAMU for the Big 12 South teams, but there is certainly moving on. Kansas and KState became much more important to each other after Missouri left, same is true for the Texas Big 12 schools.
I admire the arrogance from a fan of a school that was likely headed to the minors with TCU during PAC 12 negotiations.
I'm glad Tech is moving the Tech/Baylor game back to H/H so we can schedule better opponents in DFW.
Nothing verified but I understand the UT/Tech game will rotate H/H between Austin and Lubbock on Turkey weekend. Initially, it won't be UT vs the other school that can't be mentioned but 2 of the 3 biggest fan bases in Texas could make it interesting instead of watching the cowgirls lose. Baylor and TCU can have that weekend in front of 25k fans.
You call others arrogant for simply stating the truth? Tech isn’t A&M to uT and never will be. It’s an important game to both schools, sure, but it isn’t the same as playing TAMU. I am certain Tech fans feel the same way about playing TCU, Baylor, and Texas in that each of those schools have their own merits and history but none can be a true replacement for the TAMU game. The only solution is to move forward and embrace the existing rivalries and games we do have. That isn’t arrogance.
I’m always surprised when Tech fans come out of the woodwork with the most tremendous chips on their shoulders about their place in the Bug 12. Only a Tech fan could read my previous post and view as some sort of slant against Tech and its unique place in the Big 12. Maybe the sand aggy moniker is more correct than I wanted to believe?
You said Tech and TCU were the only teams that would play at UT on rotation basis at home on Thanksgiving. You mentioned that Baylor was to good for that type of rotation. It reeks of arrogance pretending Baylor is important.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-10-2019 01:36 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote: (03-10-2019 01:09 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-10-2019 12:10 AM)P5PACSEC Wrote: (03-09-2019 06:53 PM)Baylorbears11 Wrote: (03-09-2019 03:16 PM)esayem Wrote: With Oklahoma, and presumably Texas A&M, off the table as far as a season ending rivalry for Texas, I believe Houston has the highest ceiling for that spot. Houston has a ton of alumni (and counting) and has proven they are contributing the dough to play at the highest level. When the game is at Houston it could be played in the NFL stadium, or not. This proposal comes with a lot of "they aren't our rivals", "they're a commuter school", "why would we elevate them?" Fair responses for sure, but Texas supposedly supported Houston's entrance to the Big XII, and playing them on Thanksgiving doesn't require the Cougars to be Big XII members. I noticed at College Hoops GameDay last week that the only signs I saw regarding a "rival" were anti-Texas Longhorns. This rivalry reminds me of UK-Louisville where Louisville banged on the door until they couldn't be ignored any longer.
I also believe BYU would be a great season ending bout for the Longhorns. It may not be traditional, but it would be a great match-up between two storied programs that can stand on their own. In other words, there wouldn't be the sort of little brother factor with Houston, or say Texas Tech.
I believe Houston to be the best fit because Texas fans could easily travel when the game is on the road. Of course, TCU and Baylor could also work if the 'horns want to stay in-conference. Baylor being much closer and an easier travel experience seems to be the logical choice. The Big XII would benefit from playing teams out of conference during the final weekend to avoid any possible rematches. Texas-A&M (ideal), but could be Texas-UH/BYU, TCU-SMU, Baylor-Rice, TTU-UTEP/UNM, OU-NU, KU-Mizzou, ISU-Iowa, WVU-Pitt, etc. Logistically it would be tough, but as far as a consistent Rivalry Week, it would be pretty damn cool.
Texas has an intense hate of Houston after bleacher gate. They already tried a rotating thanksgiving day after game with TCU and Tech that was only okay. Baylor isn’t interested in being a rebound A&M and are more happy playing TCU in that slot with Texas being the last game of the season.
There is no replacing TAMU for the Big 12 South teams, but there is certainly moving on. Kansas and KState became much more important to each other after Missouri left, same is true for the Texas Big 12 schools.
I admire the arrogance from a fan of a school that was likely headed to the minors with TCU during PAC 12 negotiations.
I'm glad Tech is moving the Tech/Baylor game back to H/H so we can schedule better opponents in DFW.
Nothing verified but I understand the UT/Tech game will rotate H/H between Austin and Lubbock on Turkey weekend. Initially, it won't be UT vs the other school that can't be mentioned but 2 of the 3 biggest fan bases in Texas could make it interesting instead of watching the cowgirls lose. Baylor and TCU can have that weekend in front of 25k fans.
You call others arrogant for simply stating the truth? Tech isn’t A&M to uT and never will be. It’s an important game to both schools, sure, but it isn’t the same as playing TAMU. I am certain Tech fans feel the same way about playing TCU, Baylor, and Texas in that each of those schools have their own merits and history but none can be a true replacement for the TAMU game. The only solution is to move forward and embrace the existing rivalries and games we do have. That isn’t arrogance.
I’m always surprised when Tech fans come out of the woodwork with the most tremendous chips on their shoulders about their place in the Bug 12. Only a Tech fan could read my previous post and view as some sort of slant against Tech and its unique place in the Big 12. Maybe the sand aggy moniker is more correct than I wanted to believe?
You said Tech and TCU were the only teams that would play at UT on rotation basis at home on Thanksgiving. You mentioned that Baylor was to good for that type of rotation. It reeks of arrogance pretending Baylor is important.
Consider this an observation more than an interlinear warning, but has it occurred to any of you that the Big 12 board on this site could be operational if you guys were civil to one another? P5PACSEC, you, Bullet, and several others could be a good core to make that happen if you guys didn't spend all your time berating each other. Which by the way won't continue on the CS/CR board.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
If my long-time rival, whether intrastate or interstate, left for another conference, I for sure as hell would completely napalm the bridge. Longhorn and Aggie fans, you've both split, STAY SPLIT.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-09-2019 04:10 PM)10thMountain Wrote: (03-09-2019 03:01 PM)bullet Wrote: (03-09-2019 06:54 AM)10thMountain Wrote: Then why was your admin just recently begging us for the game back?
Aggie fan fiction
Oh but it’s not
http://www.espn.com/college-football/sto...l-proposal
Quote:The University of Texas recently extended an invitation to Texas A&M to resume their instate football rivalry and play a home-and-home in 2022-23, the Houston Chronicle has reported.
The Aggies, according to the Chronicle, declined.
And that was your AD
Your head coach and your president have also said on record they want the series back
Your student body voted yes to bringing the series back
But hey, I’m sure it’s all coincidence
Your terminology was "begging." Somebody who schedules Alabama isn't "begging." And it was a 2 year matchup, not a permanent return.
You want a guess on how many would prefer playing Alabama to A&M?
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
Wouldn’t know
We play them every year, not as an alternative after the first person we asked said no
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
Ive been going to A&M games since I was five years old
My wife is an alum so my money goes there every year to support the school
So I’d say I know quite a lot
I’d say we could just ignore you but the whole reason you’re even posting on this thread is that you’re angry and frightened that people care a lot more about whether UT plays A&M than UT playing the TX schools it’s currently partners with.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
The only reason Alabama and Auburn play is because of the legislature's actions back in the day.
I think UT and A&M should play each year. It's a travesty that they don't.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
The bottom line is that our legislature needs to work on bigger problems than football schedules.
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-12-2019 06:47 PM)Big Frog II Wrote: The bottom line is that our legislature needs to work on bigger problems than football schedules.
1st thing you have posted that I agree with. I'll give you rep points when I'm able.
So we are clear, does UT need to get their divorce papers ready to get rid of Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor?
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RE: Law Requiring Texas and Texas A&M To Play Annually Submitted to Legislature
(03-12-2019 04:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: The only reason Alabama and Auburn play is because of the legislature's actions back in the day.
I think UT and A&M should play each year. It's a travesty that they don't.
Seconded. Except that OU and Miami play because we can't get into any other conference, UC and Miami play because they can't afford another buy game to get rid of us.
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