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RE: UCONN to leave AAC in basketball - UConn report
(06-24-2019 11:22 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
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(06-23-2019 11:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 11:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(06-23-2019 10:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Heres a UConn breaking news podcast. Its pretty dismissive of the AAC, but I get it. They are thrilled to death to get back with their rivals. I think they blame far toom many of UConns problems on the AAC---but I can understand how they love the idea of getting back to playing schools they care about that are close enough to travel to.

https://www.theuconnblog.com/2019/6/22/1...-happening

lol i listen to the podcast when it came out..

then i talked to uconn fan about it here thinking they had solid proof of their points.and he said alot of what they said made no sense

then i got in a mini debate with the podcast people on twitter

their claim 1) the aac is hurting uconns womens bball from a SOS perspective.. (which is true) thats why they had to leave
conveniently ignored context) the BE is just as bad of a women league as the aac, especially when usf isnt having a down year..there will be minor increases in SOS..they will still blowout everyone

their claim 2) the soccer team should be jumping in celebration about rejoining the big east..uconn was a title contender in the old BE, have only been marginally good in the AAC
conveniently ignored context) The teams the made the Old big east so good in soccer are now in the ACC (UL, ND and Vtech)...the New big east right now is drastically worse than the AAC soccer...

i also found it hypocritical in their baseball point... the big east is one of the worst baseball leagues in the country but to them it it makes no difference they the players come to play for our coach and our team, not the conference
-- the blame recruiting struggles on the conference...but any successful coach/team that is in a drastically worse conference in the Big east, the conference has no impact

lol....Thats what immediately screamed out to me these guys are full of it. Frankly, what I know about soccer and womens basketball can be fit on an index card with lots of room left over---but I do follow AAC baseball. So, I knew they didnt know what the hell they were talking about when the first guy made it sound like the AAC was maybe marginally better in baseball--but really there wasnt much difference between BE baseball and AAC baseball. That was complete BS. And your right---suddenly they start explaining how a solid UConn baseball program wont be hurt playing in an inferior conference......wait, what? They spent the entire front part of the pod cast explaining how playing in the "inferior" AAC was ruining their prized athletic programs.

One thing I'll say is the baseball team was successful in the OBE... But the only reason I know that is because I went to school with a kid who played for them and we used to talk about the program our Junior and senior year lol. No idea how much that had to do with teams that left the OBE though, I could see Louisville especially providing a huge boost to conference strength.

To provide even more context to the conversation I was having with Pesik about the women's leagues, my mom is a massive UConn hoops fan, even more diehard than many of the diehards we have here in CT (she's been to like 4 final fours, and one of them she was still watching the championship game and screaming at the TV like 3 weeks after it happened... Even though they won by like 30+ lmao). She was saying this may actually downgrade SoS, since Geno likes to play a game in each of his seniors' hometown each year, and the Big East has a 20 game schedule compared to our 18. So let's say he has 4 seniors, plus the 20 games in the Big East. That's 24 games already. I don't think women's hoops has the kickoff tourneys to start the season like the men do (since no one would watch), but even if they don't that leaves like 6 games to play real competition. Even if Marquette and DePaul keep up their top 25 level of play as they did this past season, you're looking at 10 "tough" games each year.

And I'll reiterate, I would rather play Houston, Memphis, WSU, Cincy and Temple than I would any team in the Big East not named Nova or Georgetown. The geriatric fans clamoring for this will realize this within 2-3 years, and find something new to ***** about.

I've always wanted to leave this state because of these miserable ******** lol. This just reinforces that feeling


Actually this is a terrible move for UConn women's and makes me wonder if Geno knows some things.

AAC women play 16 games (by UConn's mandate) because the conference is so weak. He takes the extra four games and schedules Notre Dame, Louisville, Tenn, etc. to boost sos.

He is going to a 20 game schedule in a league the equal.of the AAC. If you include the fact that travel savings are marginal (with the unbalanced schedules basketball misses some road trips) there really seems to be only negatives in this move for women's basketball. Taking into account the conference strength dinged them this year for a seed and they are losing those extra games for s.o.s. I would say it's safe to assume that UConn will be looking at a 2 seed ceiling and probably a 3 seed occasionally.

Add in that Cincy and UCF have been improving, Houston is probably done with their growing pains and Tulane is getting back to a top tier team, USF being respectable despite a rash (4-5) of serious injuries and this really looks bad. I expect 3 bids from the AAC next year and five isn't a pipe dream for the women's side. UConn, USF, and Cincinnati are likely dancing, Houston and Tulane will be capable, UCF should take a step back from a senior heavy team last year but their coach seems fully capable. Wichita St continues to build and Tulsa was young but showed signs that it could be competitive and just lacks depth.

That's exactly what I'm saying, and why I had asked for more context. I see no reason why Geno would push for this, but no one is refuting it, including Geno, so it must hold some weight.
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RE: UCONN to leave AAC in basketball - UConn report
(06-23-2019 10:21 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  
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(06-23-2019 09:21 AM)SF Husky Wrote:  UCONN's tier-3 rights by itself might be worth more than the $7M payout by the AAC.

In difficult times like these, we all need a good laugh. So thank you for the jokes. Do you have any standup gigs lined up, or even open mic nights?

Just wait and see. I am talking about UCONN women's tier-3, men's basketball tier-3, and all of the football media rights combined. I am sure the school did its homework before making this decision unlike the people on this board.

Like I said, UCONN women basketball TIER-3 rights was getting $1.4M per year a few years ago. For example, it won't be too hard to imagine men's tier-3 rights getting $2.5M and the football getting $5M+ per year. Had AAC signed a deal that paid $15M+, it would be a different story. The current AAC payout is far too low for what UCONN is giving up.

LOL. I'm sorry man but you're delusional...

Our football program isn't worth more than $2m. Why would it be? We've done absolutely nothing for almost a decade and we can't even get 20k into the rent. It doesn't matter how big the media market is if nobody is going to watch anyways.

You're also forgetting to account for the CFP revenue and Bowl distributions that we're going to lose by going Indy. The AAC payout is over 10m annually on average when you take those into account.

Big East payout is like $4.75m per team annually. So let's say we can keep our 3rd tier rights for the women at 1.5m. That puts us at 6.25m per year. Throw in the 2m per year for football and we are at 8.25m. IF we can keep our men's 3rd tier rights for basketball we need to get at least 1.75m per year just to come close to breaking even. As people have pointed out here, we're not even sure we'll be able to do that under the Big East contract.

Would be shocked if the administration did not go through the numbers and see a better path forward. I believe SNY would step up and pay for rights to broadcast UCONN football. I think we should all wait for full details before making a ton of assumptions like many here.

Would you really be shocked if the administration that dug you a $40m annual deficit did not “go through the numbers?”
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RE: UCONN to leave AAC in basketball - UConn report
(06-24-2019 09:49 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(06-24-2019 09:46 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  McMurphy downing the AAC again...




yup...he's a tool, but he's correct on both tweets.
But he is also one of those guy's who feels he is being demeaned by having to cover a G5.

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RE: UCONN to leave AAC in basketball - UConn report
(06-24-2019 09:56 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
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(06-24-2019 09:46 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  McMurphy downing the AAC again...




Wtf is he even saying with either of those tweets? "Louisville was the last one off the Titanic." Oh yeah? Well we just jumped into the freezing cold water with no lifeboat. Might as well have at least stayed on until it sunk to see if help arrived eventually.

"Memphis can beat anyone, but they don't have the money to keep up." So they can beat anybody when they don't have an even playing field... And that is supposed to be a bad thing?

McMoron strikes again...

He is just another P5 Alum (Oklahoma St), only because of the born on date of his school/athletic program so he tries to look down on ANYONE, especially those that have actually performed BETTER than his cowgirls.
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RE: UCONN to leave AAC in basketball - UConn report
jim calhoun on andy katz podcast about uconn move
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fo...0442648486

doesnt say anything bad about the move and walks on eggshells throughout the topic (you can tell he doesnt want upset uconn people)

but reading between the lines, he thinks this will do a lot for uconn in ticket sales and travel expenses,...but he wouldn't have made the decision, if it was up to him he would have waited 5 years...
he talks about the evolving/changing landscape of football, who knows what happens down the line....

he sees uconn as a school that should be an all sports power...talks about the environment the time they played Michigan in football as what uconn can be
he mentions he hates the talk about uconn "can't compete"..people said the same things to him before he made uconn a basketball power.. he thinks giving up on football is a horrible idea...
"hopes" something works out there
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