(10-02-2019 08:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The midwestern states (farm states) are really hurting these days.

Perhaps they should learn to diversify. That’s what the farmers here do. Very few soybeans planted in SC this year. Lots of cotton and peanuts though. I’ve even seen cotton fields in the Piedmont this year.

Yep!

Driving through Dare/ Currituck Cty and all these cotton balls poppin up everywhere. Never seen this afore.

Wine vines on large scale and Vineyards opening on local product too.

Funny (not funny) what happens when you let smart “dumbasses” do what they wanna do. Or do what they will do.

No doubt why and where the ingless is residing.

They simply suck at what they do. Go plow a farm, then then tell me how much of that cow you own.

Too simple.

Simple people be simple. Sad

(10-02-2019 10:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:50 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  When Obama left office, Jan 20, 2017, the Dow closed at 19,827. When he entered office, Jan 20, 2009, the Dow closed at 7,949. In other words, in his 8 years in office the Dow went up roughly 150%.

You can blame Democrats in all honesty as the impeachment proceedings are spooking Wall Street. But at the same time, Trump isn't doing anything to calm investors either. The job numbers weren't great either today. I'm more concerned about the manufacturing numbers than the stock market.

The Fed may have to lower interest rates. That would be a big win for Trump, and it would be interesting to see how the markets would respond. But I also think Trump's going to have to make some concessions for the economy's sake (re: trade wars). The midwestern states (farm states) are really hurting these days.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/midwests-fa...1569862178

The DOW HAD been over 17K prior to Obama. When the election of 2016 happened, it was 19,600. Thats a 15% increase over the prior high. Obama doesnt get credit for raising a severely oversold market.

Since Trump was elected til now, we have seen a 38% increase. A 38% increase in under 3 years versus Obamas 15% over 8 years. Thats the reality of it.

It was never 17K before Obama. The high before that was 14,164.43 (10/1/07). It went steadily downhill during 2008. But even if you want to use that 14K total, that's about the same percentage gain as Trump's gain. Please show me where I'm wrong with Dow historical totals. Here's my link.

https://www.thebalance.com/dow-jones-clo...29-3306174

1) Yes it was.

2) Obama had a 15% increase over a previous high in 8 years. Trump has a38% increase over Obamas best in under 3 years. Thats not remotely the same.

It was under 9k at the end of 2008. All time high hit 14k before it went in the toilet, but let’s adjust for inflation and jack that number up to 17k. So there’s your number Obama. You walk into office with the number under 9k, but since a Republican would have snapped their fingers and magically jumped back to 17k, that’s your number.

Lol

(10-02-2019 04:00 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The Dow has dropped more than 800 points in two days. Yesterday we had the weakest U.S. manufacturing report in 10 years.

The Democrats hate this country and want the economy to tank!

Excellent buying opportunity!!!

(10-03-2019 06:07 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 10:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:50 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  When Obama left office, Jan 20, 2017, the Dow closed at 19,827. When he entered office, Jan 20, 2009, the Dow closed at 7,949. In other words, in his 8 years in office the Dow went up roughly 150%.

You can blame Democrats in all honesty as the impeachment proceedings are spooking Wall Street. But at the same time, Trump isn't doing anything to calm investors either. The job numbers weren't great either today. I'm more concerned about the manufacturing numbers than the stock market.

The Fed may have to lower interest rates. That would be a big win for Trump, and it would be interesting to see how the markets would respond. But I also think Trump's going to have to make some concessions for the economy's sake (re: trade wars). The midwestern states (farm states) are really hurting these days.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/midwests-fa...1569862178

The DOW HAD been over 17K prior to Obama. When the election of 2016 happened, it was 19,600. Thats a 15% increase over the prior high. Obama doesnt get credit for raising a severely oversold market.

Since Trump was elected til now, we have seen a 38% increase. A 38% increase in under 3 years versus Obamas 15% over 8 years. Thats the reality of it.

It was never 17K before Obama. The high before that was 14,164.43 (10/1/07). It went steadily downhill during 2008. But even if you want to use that 14K total, that's about the same percentage gain as Trump's gain. Please show me where I'm wrong with Dow historical totals. Here's my link.

https://www.thebalance.com/dow-jones-clo...29-3306174

1) Yes it was.

2) Obama had a 15% increase over a previous high in 8 years. Trump has a38% increase over Obamas best in under 3 years. Thats not remotely the same.

It was under 9k at the end of 2008. All time high hit 14k before it went in the toilet, but let’s adjust for inflation and jack that number up to 17k. So there’s your number Obama. You walk into office with the number under 9k, but since a Republican would have snapped their fingers and magically jumped back to 17k, that’s your number.

Lol

You did a lot of tap dancing there just to admit you were wrong.

(10-03-2019 08:01 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 06:07 AM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 10:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:50 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:34 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The DOW HAD been over 17K prior to Obama. When the election of 2016 happened, it was 19,600. Thats a 15% increase over the prior high. Obama doesnt get credit for raising a severely oversold market.

Since Trump was elected til now, we have seen a 38% increase. A 38% increase in under 3 years versus Obamas 15% over 8 years. Thats the reality of it.

It was never 17K before Obama. The high before that was 14,164.43 (10/1/07). It went steadily downhill during 2008. But even if you want to use that 14K total, that's about the same percentage gain as Trump's gain. Please show me where I'm wrong with Dow historical totals. Here's my link.

https://www.thebalance.com/dow-jones-clo...29-3306174

1) Yes it was.

2) Obama had a 15% increase over a previous high in 8 years. Trump has a38% increase over Obamas best in under 3 years. Thats not remotely the same.

It was under 9k at the end of 2008. All time high hit 14k before it went in the toilet, but let’s adjust for inflation and jack that number up to 17k. So there’s your number Obama. You walk into office with the number under 9k, but since a Republican would have snapped their fingers and magically jumped back to 17k, that’s your number.

Lol

You did a lot of tap dancing there just to admit you were wrong.

Someone has to find a way to defend the great one or prove that he is the one that's got it here, not the magnificent orange b@stard.

(10-02-2019 08:28 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 08:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  The midwestern states (farm states) are really hurting these days.

Perhaps they should learn to diversify. That’s what the farmers here do. Very few soybeans planted in SC this year. Lots of cotton and peanuts though. I’ve even seen cotton fields in the Piedmont this year.

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(10-02-2019 10:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But the damned Presidents don't have a lot to do with it one way or the other except for setting a tone and expectations (good or bad).

(10-03-2019 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 10:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But the damned Presidents don't have a lot to do with it one way or the other except for setting a tone and expectations (good or bad).

I've always said that President's can do little to improve the economy, but they can do lots to screw it up.

(10-03-2019 11:39 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 10:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But the damned Presidents don't have a lot to do with it one way or the other except for setting a tone and expectations (good or bad).

I've always said that President's can do little to improve the economy, but they can do lots to screw it up.

Correct. Additionally, The Dow <> The Economy.

(10-03-2019 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 11:39 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 10:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  But the damned Presidents don't have a lot to do with it one way or the other except for setting a tone and expectations (good or bad).

I've always said that President's can do little to improve the economy, but they can do lots to screw it up.

Correct. Additionally, The Dow <> The Economy.

Yes, but they are correlated. I mean, one doesn't usually see the Dow reaching new highs during a depression.

lol