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Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
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(08-22-2019 12:19 PM)Pitt Co Pirates Wrote:  Like the sound of this. I have a lot of business associates (many are BYU grads) in Provo who say and want BYU in a league. They think the AAC would be a great move, but none of them believe the BYU Administration will pull the trigger. They think BYU is still stuck in the past thinking a league like the AAC is beneath them. Hope they are wrong!!!

BYU to the AAC is a great move, IF it involves Boise State and SDSU. BYU-Boise State is turning into a rivalry game and BYU needs frequent games in California and would benefit from consistent games in Texas. BYU could improve its late-season schedule and face the eastern AAC teams occasionally, rather than frequently.

IMO, even better if it were an all sports move, with Gonzaga also included in the new western Olympic sports contingency. And, stack schedules so that Olympic sports do not have more than one West-to-East road trip each season. Plenty of road game options with the BYU-Boise-Gonzaga-SDSU western group and Wichita-Tulsa-SMU-Houston-Tulane-Memphis in the Central timezone.

There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-21-2019 06:24 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-21-2019 05:52 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Yeah no from here on out it’s the AAC, or Boise getting the access bowl. The money and reputation gap is too wide between them and everyone else. Don’t think a Western Michigan has a chance in today’s AAC dominated G5.

Realistically I’d be shocked if the next couple access bowls feature anyone but these teams.

UCF
Temple
USF
Memphis
Houston
Cincinnati
Boise


I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. The AAC and the top of the MWC should account for 8 of 10 easily though at worst.


Agrred,, it is probably easier to break into tiers...

Tier #1

Cinci
UCF
Houston
USF
Boise
BYU

Tier #2

Memphis
Temple
ECU
SDSU
Fresno
CSU

Tier #2A (Schools all college football fans would root for)

Navy
Air Force

Tier #3

Everyone else
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 04:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(08-22-2019 12:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  BYU to the AAC is a great move, IF it involves Boise State and SDSU. BYU-Boise State is turning into a rivalry game and BYU needs frequent games in California and would benefit from consistent games in Texas. BYU could improve its late-season schedule and face the eastern AAC teams occasionally, rather than frequently.

IMO, even better if it were an all sports move, with Gonzaga also included in the new western Olympic sports contingency. And, stack schedules so that Olympic sports do not have more than one West-to-East road trip each season. Plenty of road game options with the BYU-Boise-Gonzaga-SDSU western group and Wichita-Tulsa-SMU-Houston-Tulane-Memphis in the Central timezone.

There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.
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Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 04:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.


Thanks
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 04:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(08-22-2019 12:33 PM)YNot Wrote:  BYU to the AAC is a great move, IF it involves Boise State and SDSU. BYU-Boise State is turning into a rivalry game and BYU needs frequent games in California and would benefit from consistent games in Texas. BYU could improve its late-season schedule and face the eastern AAC teams occasionally, rather than frequently.

IMO, even better if it were an all sports move, with Gonzaga also included in the new western Olympic sports contingency. And, stack schedules so that Olympic sports do not have more than one West-to-East road trip each season. Plenty of road game options with the BYU-Boise-Gonzaga-SDSU western group and Wichita-Tulsa-SMU-Houston-Tulane-Memphis in the Central timezone.

There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

It’s 50 million split evenly (1 million per team with a maximum of 10 million per conference), 6 million for getting a team in the access bowl—with the rest of the G5 pot (29 million if the entire G5 share is 85 million) being split based on performance.

The performance share is divided into 15 equal shares. The #1 ranked G5 conference gets five shares, the #2 conference gets 4 shares, the #3 conference gets 3 shares, and so on.
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-24-2019 09:14 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 04:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

It’s 50 million split evenly (1 million per team with a maximum of 10 million per conference), 6 million for getting a team in the access bowl—with the rest of the G5 pot (29 million if the entire G5 share is 85 million) being split based on performance.

The performance share is divided into 15 equal shares. The #1 ranked G5 conference gets five shares, the #2 conference gets 4 shares, the #3 conference gets 3 shares, and so on.

You've got the concept, post 483 has the accurate numbers
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 04:40 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  There's something to be said for not taking the best teams in the MWC. We'll create a really tough conference slate that will make it difficult to go undefeated to get the Access Bowl, and we'll leave a weakened MWC where a resurgent team like Fresno or even Utah State can cruise right through. The BYU, Boise, SDSU type plan made a lot more sense when we thought we could keep AQ/Power status.


Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.

Wait. How can a G4 MWC be ranked ahead of a P6?
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-25-2019 02:22 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.

Wait. How can a G4 MWC be ranked ahead of a P6?

we cannibalize and they don't. it's much easier to pad their record in the mwc.
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-25-2019 02:22 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:14 AM)1845 Bear Wrote:  Also how much is the raw total the AAC gets from the playoff funds? Dividing that 2 or 4 more ways may be more trouble than whatever dollar figure you attach to getting the access Bowl slightly more often.

Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.

Wait. How can a G4 MWC be ranked ahead of a P6?

We've addressed this numerous times on this board.
Here's the first instance that I found:
https://csnbbs.com/thread-881182-post-16...id16251198

Nice year last year for the mwc.
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RE: Las Vegas Review Journal Update on MW TV Negotiations
(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 02:22 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 09:37 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Over the five years of the CFP, the American has received $105M, averaging $21M per year. The difference dividing that up 14 ways vs 12 ways is a quarter of a million dollars less to each AAC school. Difference between 14 shares and 11 shares is $409,000.
That's a coordinator.


How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.

Wait. How can a G4 MWC be ranked ahead of a P6?

We've addressed this numerous times on this board.
Here's the first instance that I found:
https://csnbbs.com/thread-881182-post-16...id16251198

Nice year last year for the mwc.

So the Belch was ranked higher than the MAC Attack and CallovertheUSA?
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(08-25-2019 12:22 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-25-2019 02:22 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 07:57 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-23-2019 06:41 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  How much of that 105M is based on getting a team in the NY6 or other revenue sharing based on performance?

I’ve heard rumors of 85M per year is the non-NY6 pot and it’s splitting 60M evenly and 15 based on performance with another 6M to the league that goes to the NY6 slot.

If true does anyone know how exactly that 15M is tied to performance?

Okay, the actual distributions are available on the NCAA's "post-season bowl administration" page. There is other information available on that page (other bowl payouts, the administration documentation for bowls, etc) but here is the link direct to the .pdf of last year's payouts by conference:
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/champio...bution.pdf

The non-contract-bowl conferences have shared about $91M each of the last three years. About $63M is shared out equally with a base payment - the press releases will say that starts with a payment per team for teams meeting APR standards, but not to exceed twelve teams (i.e. no extra pay for adding teams to your conference), but blah blah blah that's window dressing: the base has remained steady and there's no numerical evidence of any conference not getting that. The remaining $$ are divided up by performance shares, 5 shares for the top finisher down to 1 share for the bottom finisher. I believe the performance placing is by combining the old BCS computer rankings (open to input from anyone with sourced details on what rankings are used). Then the NY6 participant gets $4M for the bowl plus $2M for the participating team's expenses, but that $2M is reflected in the conference payouts.

You can reverse engineer the base payment of $12.7M and the performance share of $1.47M from the figures in the linked pdf:

AAC's $25M is base plus 4 shares plus $6M
mwc's $20M is base plus 5 shares
SunBelt's $17M is base plus 3 shares
CUSA's $15.6M is base plus 2 shares
MAC's $14.1M is base plus 1 share.

Wait. How can a G4 MWC be ranked ahead of a P6?

We've addressed this numerous times on this board.
Here's the first instance that I found:
https://csnbbs.com/thread-881182-post-16...id16251198

Nice year last year for the mwc.

So the Belch was ranked higher than the MAC Attack and CallovertheUSA?

Correct. 2016 also.
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