(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

I haven't seen/heard anything. What is happening is folks are hearing things the way they want to hear them in order to fit a preconceived narrative. It's just another example of confirmation bias that is so prevelant in politics today.

(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

Dude, c'mon. What proves anyone is a racist really? It's not like your hair color or something identifiable.

So we have to look at words and actions and form our own opinion...and trump has a long history.

CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

I do, and as you said, that's fine.

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.
So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Your definition of racist strikes me as suspiciously close to racist = anyone who disagrees with a leftist.

How about a racist act--any racist act?

(08-15-2019 12:57 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

I do, and as you said, that's fine.

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.
So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Your definition of racist strikes me as suspiciously close to racist = anyone who disagrees with a leftist.

How about a racist act--any racist act?

And would please stop with this continual ridiculous bull**** that any time I say anything about trump and race it's only because of a disagreement with a leftist? You know damned well from my posting history here that's completely ridiculous. At least you should.

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

Dude, c'mon. What proves anyone is a racist really? It's not like your hair color or something identifiable.

So we have to look at words and actions and form our own opinion...and trump has a long history.

CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Ah.. CP5 and claiming Obama was born in Kenya... So because he thinks the CP5 are guilty makes him racist and because he believed a black man was born in his father's homeland makes him racist.

So what does that make you? You're definitely not holier than thou... I believe you're racist against the orange man... Doesn't matter what he does, it's wrong. By your own definition of your "verifiable proof" you're a flaming racist.

Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

(08-15-2019 01:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 10:33 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Any of you got proof that Trump is racist? I mean verifiable proof?

Dude, c'mon. What proves anyone is a racist really? It's not like your hair color or something identifiable.

So we have to look at words and actions and form our own opinion...and trump has a long history.

CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Ah.. CP5 and claiming Obama was born in Kenya... So because he thinks the CP5 are guilty makes him racist and because he believed a black man was born in his father's homeland makes him racist.

So what does that make you? You're definitely not holier than thou... I believe you're racist against the orange man... Doesn't matter what he does, it's wrong. By your own definition of your "verifiable proof" you're a flaming racist.

Dude, just stop. It's what he said and did in relation to the CP5 and Obama on the birther issue, not just his mind you IDIOTIC continual belief that the CPS are guilty and Obama was born here. And it's far from just those two things. You have the constant drone of calling immigrants invaders, his penchant to seemingly use a word like stupid whenever he chides a black foil of his and on and on.

But whatever, I'm sure you see him as a very fine person, and you're free to do so as you like.

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

(08-15-2019 03:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:01 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, c'mon. What proves anyone is a racist really? It's not like your hair color or something identifiable.

So we have to look at words and actions and form our own opinion...and trump has a long history.

CP5 and Birtherism lead the way. To me, those are without a doubt racist. You may see it differently and that's fine.

So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Ah.. CP5 and claiming Obama was born in Kenya... So because he thinks the CP5 are guilty makes him racist and because he believed a black man was born in his father's homeland makes him racist.

So what does that make you? You're definitely not holier than thou... I believe you're racist against the orange man... Doesn't matter what he does, it's wrong. By your own definition of your "verifiable proof" you're a flaming racist.

Dude, just stop. It's what he said and did in relation to the CP5 and Obama on the birther issue, not just his mind you IDIOTIC continual belief that the CPS are guilty and Obama was born here. And it's far from just those two things. You have the constant drone of calling immigrants invaders, his penchant to seemingly use a word like stupid whenever he chides a black foil of his and on and on.

But whatever, I'm sure you see him as a very fine person, and you're free to do so as you like.

So you have no proof.. You just have the feels like I said..

But let's back up.. First you call me an IDIOT??? So mature and refined.

Secondly, I can't say if the CP5 are innocent or guilty, because quite honestly I haven't paid attention, but the man can't say they are because they're black I assume.. There's your problem, just this week you stated something with the intent of anyone that disagreed with Obama was a racist. So we know your hand. He theorized Obama was from another country, is it racist because Obama had records sealed or because he couldn't produce a birth certificate for a few years or was it because it was floated by other Democrats and Trump ran with it? I don't know you but if I assumed you were born in Kansas, would I be racists???

Lastly if people are flooding this country illegally, then yes they are invading, what else would you call it?

You keep saying the "fine person" line and I keep showing you where you're saying things incorrectly.. So if anything you're obtuse or got your head in the ground... But again I remember, you claim to be independent or something goofy, you're hardcore democrat.. I also remember during Kavanaugh's hearing, without the man defending himself you were ready to throw the book.. You're gonna vote blue no matter who because that's what you are.. TEAM OVER COUNTRY..

Also if you feel the need to call me an idiot to my face, I'll give you my address and you can try it then..

(08-15-2019 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

Shut.
The.
****.
Up.

You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as my actual beliefs, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

That you can't back up with why you think it.. It's because that's what the MSM says and he's not a democrat.

(08-15-2019 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

Shut.
The.
****.
Up.

You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as fact, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

DEFEND YOUR POINT. FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

Obama's father is from Kenya, so if he wasn't born here that would be the logical conclusion.

CP5 were guilty. There was around 30 young thugs running around assaulting multiple people in the park that evening, including those guys.

(08-15-2019 03:34 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 11:09 AM)gdunn Wrote:  So that's a no from you, based on feels.. Got it.

Wrong, I cited two examples that in my definition makes him one. You will clearly see it differently.

So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

Ah.. CP5 and claiming Obama was born in Kenya... So because he thinks the CP5 are guilty makes him racist and because he believed a black man was born in his father's homeland makes him racist.

So what does that make you? You're definitely not holier than thou... I believe you're racist against the orange man... Doesn't matter what he does, it's wrong. By your own definition of your "verifiable proof" you're a flaming racist.

Dude, just stop. It's what he said and did in relation to the CP5 and Obama on the birther issue, not just his mind you IDIOTIC continual belief that the CPS are guilty and Obama was born here. And it's far from just those two things. You have the constant drone of calling immigrants invaders, his penchant to seemingly use a word like stupid whenever he chides a black foil of his and on and on.

But whatever, I'm sure you see him as a very fine person, and you're free to do so as you like.

So you have no proof.. You just have the feels like I said..

But let's back up.. First you call me an IDIOT??? So mature and refined.

Secondly, I can't say if the CP5 are innocent or guilty, because quite honestly I haven't paid attention, but the man can't say they are because they're black I assume.. There's your problem, just this week you stated something with the intent of anyone that disagreed with Obama was a racist. So we know your hand. He theorized Obama was from another country, is it racist because Obama had records sealed or because he couldn't produce a birth certificate for a few years or was it because it was floated by other Democrats and Trump ran with it? I don't know you but if I assumed you were born in Kansas, would I be racists???

Lastly if people are flooding this country illegally, then yes they are invading, what else would you call it?

You keep saying the "fine person" line and I keep showing you where you're saying things incorrectly.. So if anything you're obtuse or got your head in the ground... But again I remember, you claim to be independent or something goofy, you're hardcore democrat.. I also remember during Kavanaugh's hearing, without the man defending himself you were ready to throw the book.. You're gonna vote blue no matter who because that's what you are.. TEAM OVER COUNTRY..

Also if you feel the need to call me an idiot to my face, I'll give you my address and you can try it then..

Try a little reading comprehension my good man. I'm referring to trump's idiotic belief, not yours.

And A G A I N, racism is mainly a belief, not a physical action. But I gave you two physical actions, the full page CP5 ad, and his comments on birtherism as proof of why I think he's racist. No, I can't provide a video of him lynching a black man...or whatever it is you think I need to provide to prove why I think he's a racist.

(08-15-2019 03:39 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  CP5 were guilty. There was around 30 young thugs running around assaulting multiple people in the park that evening, including those guys.

Ridiculous revisionist history. Wow.

5 Exonerated in Central Park Jogger Case Agree to Settle Suit for $40 Million

(08-15-2019 03:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:31 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Trump was absolutely a darling to the non-white community until he became a viable candidate for the Republican Party.

So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

Shut.
The.
****.
Up.

You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as fact, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

DEFEND YOUR POINT. FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

Obama's father is from Kenya, so if he wasn't born here that would be the logical conclusion.

There's nothing to discuss. I think he's a racist for the reasons I set forth, you don't. That's it. Full. Stop.

The whole birther thing was silly, but it didn't make him a racist unless that's how one wants to spin it for political purposes.

(08-15-2019 03:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:32 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So? I loved and watched his Celebrity Apprentice show until he became a racist birther.

Became? Really? How did he become a racist anyway? By deciding to run as a republican? That seems to be it. Racist = anybody who disagrees with a democrat.

Shut.
The.
****.
Up.

You sound like a complete moron...totally ignoring what I'm telling you. Accusing a black man of not being American, but rather Kenyan, with not one shred of proof, IMHO is racist. If you don't think it is, then fine. Move along and stop your ridiculous nonsense. I don't care if trump is a freaking martian, I'm going to call what I feel is a racist, A RACIST. If you can't take what I continually tell you as fact, then put me on ignore and stop interacting with me.

DEFEND YOUR POINT. FURTHER THE DISCUSSION.

Obama's father is from Kenya, so if he wasn't born here that would be the logical conclusion.

There's nothing to discuss. I think he's a racist for the reasons I set forth, you don't. That's it. Full. Stop.

Cause he said some black teens were guilty.. You said Kavanaugh was guilty, that makes you a racist...

He said Obama was not born here, he was born in his father's home country.. That makes him a racist..

Guys, Tom has put the points out and he's changing what he wrote so he doesn't get his ass in a sling by insulting posters...

(08-15-2019 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So tell me, what proof do you actually need? Does he have to don a white hood and lynch someone? Where's the bar for you?

I don't know Tom, maybe it's actually doing something racist..

I mean Obama was definitely racist.. He chose to go to a black criminal's wedding but couldn't be bothered to go to a white officer's funeral or offer condolences to any of them. He would send low level aids..

He hung around with race baiters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... So to me that's more racists than someone saying, hey he wasn't born here, he was born in his father's home country or he's guilty because of xyz, and was proven in a court of law... but I'm just an idiot right...