(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

That is a great question! If you don’t know the answer, dig deep beyond the left wing clap trap and find it. You will not like the truth.....

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

Who said they were fine people? The reason you asked those questions in that way is obvious. You quoted something absolutely incorrectly attributed to Trump to somehow 'prove' he's a racist. He said at the same time, those were deplorable people who should be condemned.

Quote:If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

And what in 'unite the right' tells you who organized it or what their goal was, beyond stopping the renaming of a park and removing a statue?

What I mean is, I doubt the posters said 'come to this Klan rally organized by renowned white supremacist Kessler'. I suspect they said... come out and show your support for conservative values and protest the removal of historic statues....

Which is why I brought up David Duke 'marching side by side' with Tulsi and Ilhan. Those are all known quantities and informed people. We're talking about average citizens and relative unknowns.

It's the same issue with 'deplorables' that helped cost Hillary the election. You're lumping all sorts of people into a group based solely on one set of facts, and then applying a much broader brush to it.

Tulsi Gabbard isn't a white supremacist just because she and David Duke both might be both read an article talking about ending US support for Israel.

(08-15-2019 12:49 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

He was an Obama supporter and involved in the Occupy movement. Then he claimed to be red pilled. He raised money to hire the tiki torch guys and bused them in.

Glad someone educated this guy. Actually it was a false flag operation to get as bad of a reaction as possible to do exactly what happened. Couldn’t have worked out better for him. Got a body. Got a bunch of WSs on camera. Got the POTUS to say something that could be twisted. Total anarchist ANTIFA crap that the MSM and weak minded democrats could use to further divide our country. Shame on any of you for assisting them.

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

BULL CHIT!

(08-15-2019 01:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

Who said they were fine people? The reason you asked those questions in that way is obvious. You quoted something absolutely incorrectly attributed to Trump to somehow 'prove' he's a racist. He said at the same time, those were deplorable people who should be condemned.

Quote:If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

And what in 'unite the right' tells you who organized it or what their goal was, beyond stopping the renaming of a park and removing a statue?

What I mean is, I doubt the posters said 'come to this Klan rally organized by renowned white supremacist Kessler'. I suspect they said... come out and show your support for conservative values and protest the removal of historic statues....

Which is why I brought up David Duke 'marching side by side' with Tulsi and Ilhan. Those are all known quantities and informed people. We're talking about average citizens and relative unknowns.

It's the same issue with 'deplorables' that helped cost Hillary the election. You're lumping all sorts of people into a group based solely on one set of facts, and then applying a much broader brush to it.

Tulsi Gabbard isn't a white supremacist just because she and David Duke both might be both read an article talking about ending US support for Israel.

It takes two brain cells to separate the two.
Some have one agenda political alliances. JD’s is obviously gay rights. On that one thing he bases his whole political alliance. Some worship abortion rights and will vote for ANYONE who shares that idea.
Not being able to separate the a single agenda from the whole is a serious problem for some.

Quote:It takes two brain cells to separate the two.
Some have one agenda political alliances. JD’s is obviously gay rights. On that one thing he bases his whole political alliance. Some worship abortion rights and will vote for ANYONE who shares that idea.
Not being able to separate the a single agenda from the whole is a serious problem for some.

I'm far from being a one issue voter. Glad my stance on lgbtqia issues has such a comfy spot in your brain tho. Means you think of me :)

If you paid attention to my posts though you'd see me disagree with mach, memphis, and the Tom's, and call them out quite often.

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

(08-15-2019 02:38 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

Must've missed those

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

You're brainwashed, dude.

What he should have said was, "There were bad people on both sides."

Oh, wait, he did.

Talk about taking one sound byte totally out of context.

(08-15-2019 02:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:38 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

Must've missed those

Doubtful. Just another example of you being an untruthful, untrustworthy, useless poster.

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

Why did so many people attend that women's march with speakers like Madonna "blow up the White House" and the kidnapper and rapist leader (don't remember her name-she was part of a group that kidnapped a man for ransom-she and the other female member raped him and then they murdered him).

(08-15-2019 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:38 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

Must've missed those

Doubtful. Just another example of you being an untruthful, untrustworthy, useless poster.

(08-15-2019 04:10 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

Why did so many people attend that women's march with speakers like Madonna "blow up the White House" and the kidnapper and rapist leader (don't remember her name-she was part of a group that kidnapped a man for ransom-she and the other female member raped him and then they murdered him).

lololol @ comparing Madonna to a Nazi.

(08-15-2019 04:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:38 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I stand by what I said. Trump said there were fine protestors on both sides at that rally. I dont agree. One side had nazis, white supremacists, and those willing to walk side by side with them. None of those are "fine people".

And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

Must've missed those

Doubtful. Just another example of you being an untruthful, untrustworthy, useless poster.

That's about all you can do since your the only proven liar on this board.

(08-15-2019 01:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  And what in 'unite the right' tells you who organized it or what their goal was, beyond stopping the renaming of a park and removing a statue?

I don't know, perhaps the two other events that happened in Charlottesville prior to the August demonstration:

This:

May 13th

White Nationalist Leads Torch Bearing Protesters Against Removal of Confederate Statue

Quote:A torch-wielding mob chanting racist slogans descended on a Charlottesville, Virginia, park Saturday evening, to protest the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue.

Chanting "All White Lives Matter," and "No More Brother Wars," the crowd, which said they were protecting their "white heritage" from the Charlottesville City Council’s decision to remove a statue in the Virginia town’s park.

They also chanted "You will not replace us" and "Russia is our friend." Dozens of protesters also brought bamboo tiki torches to a second rally once it became dark out.

And this:

July 8th

23 Arrested and Tear Gas Deployed after a KKK Rally in Virginia

Quote:CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — Members of the Ku Klux Klan rallied here on Saturday afternoon in a protest meant to assail the city’s decision to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee, the Confederate general.

For about a half-hour, around 50 members of the Klan — some wearing hooded white robes — shouted “white power” at Justice Park as more than 1,000 people protested their presence by hurling insults, water bottles and apple cores.

By about 4:25 p.m., the Klan members, who said they came from North Carolina, began to leave and return to their cars. It was then when the trouble intensified.

City officials said a large group of counterprotesters followed the Klan members back to their vehicles and stopped them from leaving. Asked to step aside, the counterprotesters refused, a city spokeswoman said. The police declared an unlawful assembly, and officers began moving the protesters back so the Klan members could leave.

(08-15-2019 01:42 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  What I mean is, I doubt the posters said 'come to this Klan rally organized by renowned white supremacist Kessler'. I suspect they said... come out and show your support for conservative values and protest the removal of historic statues....

Which is why I brought up David Duke 'marching side by side' with Tulsi and Ilhan. Those are all known quantities and informed people. We're talking about average citizens and relative unknowns.

So you're telling me the average citizen who took time out of their weekend to travel hundreds, if not thousands of miles to attend this event had no clue what the motivations behind the organizers were? Especially after multiple news agencies were reporting on the build up to the event, including Kessler's legal fight to have the rally at the park?

Because I'm going to have to call shenanigans on that. They knew that this event was going to be a flash point in what was an already tense summer. And I believe they knew the same shady individuals involved in prior events in Charlottesville were the organizing force behind Unite the Right in August.

(08-15-2019 04:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 04:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 03:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:40 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 02:38 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  And the other side had Marxist anarchists who have repeatedly caused violence and destruction in this country everywhere they gather.


Strange that your hyperpartisan, dishonorable ass didn't mention them.

Must've missed those

Doubtful. Just another example of you being an untruthful, untrustworthy, useless poster.

That's about all you can do since your the only proven liar on this board.

You're*. See? I can be petty too!

(08-15-2019 04:17 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 04:10 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

Why did so many people attend that women's march with speakers like Madonna "blow up the White House" and the kidnapper and rapist leader (don't remember her name-she was part of a group that kidnapped a man for ransom-she and the other female member raped him and then they murdered him).

lololol @ comparing Madonna to a Nazi.

Where are the Nazi? There might be a few still alive. There really are not any Nazis around unless you are talking about American National Socialists and they seem to be open borders.

(08-15-2019 01:25 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 01:16 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 12:40 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-15-2019 09:20 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Just curious, who organized the Unite the Right rally that summer?

Jason Kessler.

Is this Mr. Kessler a "very fine person"?

Please stop spreading lies as if they are truths.... especially in a thread about the left lying. You're DEMONSTRABLY lying.... I suspect because you simply don't know... because you've been lied to... so I'm not blaming you

From the very same interview, literally moments after the comment you're alluding to.... not some 'response' to it, but the very interview....
And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.


The Rally you're speaking of was in response to taking down a statue and renaming a park. There were people who were against that, and NOT because they are neo-nazis and white nationalists. THAT is VERY clearly whom Trump was talking about, while absolutely condemning those others...

The left gets away with lying because the issues they tell lies about are indefensible if true... and when someone points out that they aren't true, they are most often labeled in such a way that it's not worth fighting the lies. Trump is a racist. Trump is putting children in cages. Trump is calling Nazis 'fine people'. Those are all lies, but it's not worth my personal reputation to put much weight into fighting the lie.

Hambone, I asked two simple questions. Who organized the event, and whether or not the organizers were "fine people".

From what I've read, Mr. Kessler and Mr. Spencer are not fine people.

If you were a fine person, why in the world would you attend a protest organized and led by despicable people?

I'm against fracking. If an eco-terrorist tied to violent people organized an anti-fracking rally, I would certainly not march side by side with them.

Kessler seems like a scammer chit stirrer. What is not fine about Spencer?