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(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3
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(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3
At least another G5 team. There's always 2 or 3 that finish Top 25 so not sure why Central Florida is the only one.

Also swap Michigan St off. 6 losses not Top 20
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(08-19-2019 04:16 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)Wedge Wrote:  A good indication of how much transferring is going on, even with the top teams...


Some good news this week. Justin Fields who played the race card to avoid a redshirt year at Ohio St. got beat out (at least for now) by a Kentucky transfer.

Fields claimed racism (because some drunk student yelled, "put the N in") so he didn't have to sit out a year. Yet his sister is still at UGA.

He may have to redshirt after all.
Fields is starting.

I was going to say, Fields is starting and Hoak still hasn't had his black stripe removed so he is way down on the depth chart.
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Is Nebraska only ranked because they used to be good or do they actually have a good team this year?
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(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Is Nebraska only ranked because they used to be good or do they actually have a good team this year?
Nebraska won 4 games last year, so that should answer your question
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College Poll Tracker is up with who has a ballot this season and how they voted

Jon Wilner is open on how he votes. As he wrote last week when he released his ballot early, he votes on how he thinks the season will play out as opposed to who he thinks is best now.
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(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.
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(08-19-2019 03:25 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Does it bother you when Duke and Kentucky and Michigan State are ranked high every year in college hoops too? If so, you just must not like Division I hoops and football.

You'd have a point if it was true that these polls were wildly off, but they usually aren't. If other teams want to get ranked, they have to get better.

I'm not just into the same old teams being up there... Not saying they are not the best, because they are...
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(08-19-2019 07:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.

I'm not just into the same teams being up there year after year... Not saying they are not the best, because they are...
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RE: AP Poll is out
(08-19-2019 07:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.

Sorry, what I was trying to say was Nebraska, Iowa state, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, and Utah have no business being there for the preseason...... period. You finish the season with 5-6 losses, I do not care what type of name hype or recruiting hype you have, its all smoke and mirrors until something is proved on the field.
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RE: AP Poll is out
(08-19-2019 08:52 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 07:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.

Sorry, what I was trying to say was Nebraska, Iowa state, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, and Utah have no business being there for the preseason...... period. You finish the season with 5-6 losses, I do not care what type of name hype or recruiting hype you have, its all smoke and mirrors until something is proved on the field.

The same could be said of Florida. Are the Gators truly the #8 team in the country?

In fairness, I think aggy and UCF are ranked to high. Aggy hasn't won anything in years with all the money in the world and UCF lost their starting QB.
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(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Is Nebraska only ranked because they used to be good or do they actually have a good team this year?

Nebraska:
-finished strong last year
-has a great quarterback
-has a coach who pulled off a year 2 miracle at UCF
-has recruited well
-has a favorable schedule.

That being said, I have no idea what to expect. The Big 10 West will be a blood bath. 6 of the 7 teams have a legit shot of winning the division. I heard a Las Vegas expert on the radio say that is the most wide open division this year. Vegas is putting Nebraska's over/under at 8.5 wins.

Who knows what'll happen? I think most Nebraska fans will be happy with improvement: better discipline with penalties, turnovers, and special teams.
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(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:16 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)Wedge Wrote:  A good indication of how much transferring is going on, even with the top teams...


Some good news this week. Justin Fields who played the race card to avoid a redshirt year at Ohio St. got beat out (at least for now) by a Kentucky transfer.

Fields claimed racism (because some drunk student yelled, "put the N in") so he didn't have to sit out a year. Yet his sister is still at UGA.

He may have to redshirt after all.
Fields is starting.

I was going to say, Fields is starting and Hoak still hasn't had his black stripe removed so he is way down on the depth chart.

I read the tweet above backwards, that UW had a UGA starter and OSU had a UGA backup. Reading it that way confirmed something I read on a UGA site yesterday that Fields was #2. But obviously I read the tweet above wrong. I presume you OSU fans know better what is going on than the UGA site.
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(08-19-2019 09:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:16 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)Wedge Wrote:  A good indication of how much transferring is going on, even with the top teams...


Some good news this week. Justin Fields who played the race card to avoid a redshirt year at Ohio St. got beat out (at least for now) by a Kentucky transfer.

Fields claimed racism (because some drunk student yelled, "put the N in") so he didn't have to sit out a year. Yet his sister is still at UGA.

He may have to redshirt after all.
Fields is starting.

I was going to say, Fields is starting and Hoak still hasn't had his black stripe removed so he is way down on the depth chart.

I read the tweet above backwards, that UW had a UGA starter and OSU had a UGA backup. Reading it that way confirmed something I read on a UGA site yesterday that Fields was #2. But obviously I read the tweet above wrong. I presume you OSU fans know better what is going on than the UGA site.

The tweet might have been worded that way because Petersen hasn't named a UW starting QB yet.
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(08-19-2019 08:52 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 07:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN

Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.

Sorry, what I was trying to say was Nebraska, Iowa state, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, and Utah have no business being there for the preseason...... period. You finish the season with 5-6 losses, I do not care what type of name hype or recruiting hype you have, its all smoke and mirrors until something is proved on the field.

Iowa St. is there for good reason. They were 8-5 which gets you close to #25. All 5 losses were close, 4 were to ranked teams and 3 of those were top 10. They've got a lot of people back.
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(08-19-2019 03:19 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Same teams every year.... #YAWN
Actually first time Cuse has been in the preseason poll since 1998

20 years in the wilderness.
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(08-19-2019 09:00 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 08:52 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 07:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:30 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Who should be there instead of the "same teams" but isn't?

How about the 5 and 6 loss teams that catapult to preseason top 25 just based of their name......07-coffee3

I'll ask you the same thing I asked the ODU fan, who's there that shouldn't be there?

It's a simple question.

Sorry, what I was trying to say was Nebraska, Iowa state, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, and Utah have no business being there for the preseason...... period. You finish the season with 5-6 losses, I do not care what type of name hype or recruiting hype you have, its all smoke and mirrors until something is proved on the field.

The same could be said of Florida. Are the Gators truly the #8 team in the country?

In fairness, I think aggy and UCF are ranked to high. Aggy hasn't won anything in years with all the money in the world and UCF lost their starting QB.

I won’t be a homer here. The gators are ranked too high. First and foremost, I am not sold on FF as our QB. However, our offense sure is clicking much better under Mullen. If we have an equal improvement over last year, I think we challenge Georgia in the east. So pretty easy to see them in the top ten, just not yet. I don’t believe in preseason rankings based on hype.

As far as UCF, I think a lot of people are gonna be surprised. Their offense does seem to make all QBs shine.Mack sure did a great job as a stand in for Milton, won the AAC championship game, and lost by one score to LSU. Sure, LSU was missing a lot of people, but they are three deep 4 star players and UCF wasn’t playing with MM. UCF has a lot of weapons coming back, and its not hard to imagine another QB such as Wimbush, who is a ND transfer with plenty of experience thrive in this system. If true freshman Dillon Gabriel takes the field, a lot of people are comparing him to an upgraded Milton, Georgia and USC made a heavy late push to try to sign him.
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(08-19-2019 05:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Is Nebraska only ranked because they used to be good or do they actually have a good team this year?
Nebraska won 4 games last year, so that should answer your question
It’s all about TV dollars
Remember after 5 weeks there’s a committee there to make sure of the TV money is being used wisely

Northwestern: 15-1 in last 16 B1G regular season games = Not Ranked

Nebraska: 10 game losing streak snapped last October en route to 4-8 = Ranked

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(08-20-2019 12:40 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 05:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 04:57 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Is Nebraska only ranked because they used to be good or do they actually have a good team this year?
Nebraska won 4 games last year, so that should answer your question
It’s all about TV dollars
Remember after 5 weeks there’s a committee there to make sure of the TV money is being used wisely

Northwestern: 15-1 in last 16 B1G regular season games = Not Ranked

Nebraska: 10 game losing streak snapped last October en route to 4-8 = Ranked

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Northwestern: 5 wins over preseason top 25 = Not Ranked

Nebraska: 4 wins overall, 1 over Bethune-Cookman, 1 over preseason top 25 = Ranked

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(08-19-2019 08:52 PM)otown Wrote:  Sorry, what I was trying to say was Nebraska, Iowa state, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Auburn, and Utah have no business being there for the preseason...... period. You finish the season with 5-6 losses, I do not care what type of name hype or recruiting hype you have, its all smoke and mirrors until something is proved on the field.

I agree with this - at this point, the polls are purely speculative, because we haven't played any games. So take them for what they are worth at this point, just out there to stir interest and conversation, like this thread.

Right now, everyone is 0-0.
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