(09-06-2019 08:50 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:16 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 10:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:16 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  AAC has a greater viewing area than MWC, thus more money


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Larger markets, correct

It's not just about markets. It's about people actually watching the games (ratings). The AAC is a tweener conference (between the P5 and G4). We don't belong in either group. The MWC is solidly G4 hence they aren't getting AAC tv money.

Nope, it’s literally about markets. But if you need to make up a nonsensical terms like “G4” to get you through the day, knock yourself out. The bottom line is that the P5 hate you, they loathe you, they have contempt for you

Really, its about markets? Why isn't CUSA making $7M+ a year per team? I mean, their entire expansion was based on markets.......
The P5 loathe us because we are a threat to them....... they flat out do not care about the G4

(09-06-2019 08:50 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:16 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 10:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:16 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  AAC has a greater viewing area than MWC, thus more money


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Larger markets, correct

It's not just about markets. It's about people actually watching the games (ratings). The AAC is a tweener conference (between the P5 and G4). We don't belong in either group. The MWC is solidly G4 hence they aren't getting AAC tv money.

Nope, it’s literally about markets. But if you need to make up a nonsensical terms like “G4” to get you through the day, knock yourself out. The bottom line is that the P5 hate you, they loathe you, they have contempt for you

No not really. Big 12 cool with us. I played golf with a Big 10 AD this summer and he says no big deal too.

(09-06-2019 09:20 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:50 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:16 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 10:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 08:16 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  AAC has a greater viewing area than MWC, thus more money


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Larger markets, correct

It's not just about markets. It's about people actually watching the games (ratings). The AAC is a tweener conference (between the P5 and G4). We don't belong in either group. The MWC is solidly G4 hence they aren't getting AAC tv money.

Nope, it’s literally about markets. But if you need to make up a nonsensical terms like “G4” to get you through the day, knock yourself out. The bottom line is that the P5 hate you, they loathe you, they have contempt for you

Really, its about markets? Why isn't CUSA making $7M+ a year per team? I mean, their entire expansion was based on markets.......
The P5 loathe us because we are a threat to them....... they flat out do not care about the G4

What bigger markets does CUSA have over AAC? I honestly don’t know.

(09-06-2019 11:35 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 09:20 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:50 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:16 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 10:21 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  Larger markets, correct

It's not just about markets. It's about people actually watching the games (ratings). The AAC is a tweener conference (between the P5 and G4). We don't belong in either group. The MWC is solidly G4 hence they aren't getting AAC tv money.

Nope, it’s literally about markets. But if you need to make up a nonsensical terms like “G4” to get you through the day, knock yourself out. The bottom line is that the P5 hate you, they loathe you, they have contempt for you

Really, its about markets? Why isn't CUSA making $7M+ a year per team? I mean, their entire expansion was based on markets.......
The P5 loathe us because we are a threat to them....... they flat out do not care about the G4

What bigger markets does CUSA have over AAC? I honestly don’t know.

Not bigger, but overlapping markets.

(09-06-2019 11:43 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 11:35 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 09:20 AM)otown Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:50 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 08:16 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  It's not just about markets. It's about people actually watching the games (ratings). The AAC is a tweener conference (between the P5 and G4). We don't belong in either group. The MWC is solidly G4 hence they aren't getting AAC tv money.

Nope, it’s literally about markets. But if you need to make up a nonsensical terms like “G4” to get you through the day, knock yourself out. The bottom line is that the P5 hate you, they loathe you, they have contempt for you

Really, its about markets? Why isn't CUSA making $7M+ a year per team? I mean, their entire expansion was based on markets.......
The P5 loathe us because we are a threat to them....... they flat out do not care about the G4

What bigger markets does CUSA have over AAC? I honestly don’t know.

Not bigger, but overlapping markets.

Overlapping and in some cases, bigger. Charlotte, San Antonio, Houston (Rice/UH), Denton/DFW (North Tx/SMU), Miami, BocaRaton/ Ft Lauderdale, Norfolk, and Birmingham are our biggest. The difference is the AAC carries their market.

For instance, Cincy is the only college game in town (the nearest others being Miami, OH and tOSU and to an extent, UK). But if you open up the Cincy Enquirer, you’ll see the huge articles on the Bearcats and a blurb on OSU.

CUSA only carries its smaller to medium markets (Huntington, Bowling Green, Hattiesburg maybe Norfolk and El Paso).

But pull for us tonight guys and gals if you really want to see that guy melt down. Go Herd!

Here’s how Bush League Boise is: First, there are no lockers in the locker room. Just folding chairs. Looks like a high school...wait... middle school locker room. I wonder if the guys even have showers or hot water?

Second, they denied the team a walk-though and made them work out on a high school field. Pathetic.

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:41 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:33 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:19 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  What does that have to do with the post that he quoted? This is what Gink wrote:

2. Boise State has been shut out of the NY6 by the AAC for going on 5 straight years now


It’s factually incorrect and again compares 1 team to an entire conference.

I put a conference breakdown:
AAC: 3
MAC: 1
MW: 1

I'll believe the other members of the MW conference matter when they get paid equally to Boise State.

Your sweetheart deal is because of the American invite. You're Welcome! It's Boise State and the scrubs. Scrubs aint going to get no love from the polls.

The American is the only conference to have multiple teams represented with UCF and Houston. We have multiple teams receiving votes in the polls. It's really the AAC vs Boise State, end of story.


UCF, Memphis, and Cincy all have a legit shot at the NY6 bowl.
Boise State is the only other potential contender to take the NY6 from the AAC.

We get paid more money because we are a national brand and have been ranked in the top 25 for at least one week in 18 straight years. We are far and away the biggest brand name G5 team in the country, that’s why we get paid more. But you are cherry picking to validate your false narrative by comparing one team to an entire conference. And again it still does not negate the fact that what Gink wrote was factually incorrect. Western Michigan is not part of the AAC

ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

(09-06-2019 02:06 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Here’s how Bush League Boise is: First, there are no lockers in the locker room. Just folding chairs. Looks like a high school...wait... middle school locker room. I wonder if the guys even have showers or hot water?

Second, they denied the team a walk-though and made them work out on a high school field. Pathetic.

Definitely rooting for Marshall tonight. I've rooted for Marshall since the UCF MAC days whenever we're not playing one another. Especially want y'all to win to shut up all this Boise trolling.

(09-06-2019 02:06 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Here’s how Bush League Boise is: First, there are no lockers in the locker room. Just folding chairs. Looks like a high school...wait... middle school locker room. I wonder if the guys even have showers or hot water?

Second, they denied the team a walk-though and made them work out on a high school field. Pathetic.

Why are you lying? That is the old wrestling locker room that is undergoing complete renovations that’s why it looks like the way it is. And you guys were offered the air condition indoor practice facility. Why the hell would you want to practice on the Bluetooth in 100° heat anyway? Coming over here trying to kiss AAC Butt, desperate for their approval. Pathetic.

(09-06-2019 02:29 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:41 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:33 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I put a conference breakdown:
AAC: 3
MAC: 1
MW: 1

I'll believe the other members of the MW conference matter when they get paid equally to Boise State.

Your sweetheart deal is because of the American invite. You're Welcome! It's Boise State and the scrubs. Scrubs aint going to get no love from the polls.

The American is the only conference to have multiple teams represented with UCF and Houston. We have multiple teams receiving votes in the polls. It's really the AAC vs Boise State, end of story.


UCF, Memphis, and Cincy all have a legit shot at the NY6 bowl.
Boise State is the only other potential contender to take the NY6 from the AAC.

We get paid more money because we are a national brand and have been ranked in the top 25 for at least one week in 18 straight years. We are far and away the biggest brand name G5 team in the country, that’s why we get paid more. But you are cherry picking to validate your false narrative by comparing one team to an entire conference. And again it still does not negate the fact that what Gink wrote was factually incorrect. Western Michigan is not part of the AAC

ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

We’re paid less than Vanderbilt and Indiana too. What is your point?

(09-06-2019 03:51 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 02:06 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Here’s how Bush League Boise is: First, there are no lockers in the locker room. Just folding chairs. Looks like a high school...wait... middle school locker room. I wonder if the guys even have showers or hot water?

Second, they denied the team a walk-though and made them work out on a high school field. Pathetic.

Definitely rooting for Marshall tonight. I've rooted for Marshall since the UCF MAC days whenever we're not playing one another. Especially want y'all to win to shut up all this Boise trolling.

I have no problem with you rooting for Marshall tonight, it is in your team’s best interest and I would expect as much. I will be rooting for FAU tomorrow and Stanford next week. No hard feelings.

Just going to gently point out that college football history does go back to before the NY6 bowl era.

When we go back beyond the very carefully chosen cutoff point that a couple of posters have listed in this thread, the count of BCS/NY6 bowl appearances for each conference is...

Boise State: 3 (3 victories.)
AAC conference as a whole: 4 (3-1)

In terms of teams that are still actually in the conference. Not including schools like Utah or TCU for the MWC or schools like Miami, Louisville, West Virginia etc. for the AAC that aren't in the respective conferences anymore because that's not really relevant to how the conferences compare right now.

I mean, if we are going to be intellectually honest, it's just a fact that the American has had more success in recent years, but no team currently in the conference can match BSU in terms of number and success of appearances.

UCF is closest as they've been to the same number (3) but have a 2-1 record vs. BSU's perfect 3-0.

But there's not a single non-P5 team anywhere that matches BSU's 12 times finishing in the top-25 since 2002. Nobody has had BSU's consistency and ability to reload.

Which conference gets the NY6 bowl invite this year is certainly up in the air and should be fun to watch.

Stanford lost their qb....but so did usc

(09-06-2019 04:35 PM)nocoolnamejim Wrote:  Just going to gently point out that college football history does go back to before the NY6 bowl era.

When we go back beyond the very carefully chosen cutoff point that a couple of posters have listed in this thread, the count of BCS/NY6 bowl appearances for each conference is...

Boise State: 3 (3 victories.)
AAC conference as a whole: 4 (3-1)

In terms of teams that are still actually in the conference. Not including schools like Utah or TCU for the MWC or schools like Miami, Louisville, West Virginia etc. for the AAC that aren't in the respective conferences anymore because that's not really relevant to how the conferences compare right now.

I mean, if we are going to be intellectually honest, it's just a fact that the American has had more success in recent years, but no team currently in the conference can match BSU in terms of number and success of appearances.

UCF is closest as they've been to the same number (3) but have a 2-1 record vs. BSU's perfect 3-0.

But there's not a single non-P5 team anywhere that matches BSU's 12 times finishing in the top-25 since 2002. Nobody has had BSU's consistency and ability to reload.

Which conference gets the NY6 bowl invite this year is certainly up in the air and should be fun to watch.

If we are calling out "carefully chosen cut off points" ... what's the significance of 2002?

(09-06-2019 04:14 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 02:29 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:41 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  We get paid more money because we are a national brand and have been ranked in the top 25 for at least one week in 18 straight years. We are far and away the biggest brand name G5 team in the country, that’s why we get paid more. But you are cherry picking to validate your false narrative by comparing one team to an entire conference. And again it still does not negate the fact that what Gink wrote was factually incorrect. Western Michigan is not part of the AAC

ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

We’re paid less than Vanderbilt and Indiana too. What is your point?

You aren't the biggest brand name G5 school, this isn't 2007. All the headlines are about UCF, the only time I've even seen Boise mentioned was when you beat FSU. (A bad FSU team at that.)

(09-06-2019 04:14 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 02:29 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 11:41 AM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  We get paid more money because we are a national brand and have been ranked in the top 25 for at least one week in 18 straight years. We are far and away the biggest brand name G5 team in the country, that’s why we get paid more. But you are cherry picking to validate your false narrative by comparing one team to an entire conference. And again it still does not negate the fact that what Gink wrote was factually incorrect. Western Michigan is not part of the AAC

ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

We’re paid less than Vanderbilt and Indiana too. What is your point?

Ahhh, but they are not G5 now are they?

Its just interesting that the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country is paid less than little old obscure ECU.

(09-06-2019 04:40 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:35 PM)nocoolnamejim Wrote:  Just going to gently point out that college football history does go back to before the NY6 bowl era.

When we go back beyond the very carefully chosen cutoff point that a couple of posters have listed in this thread, the count of BCS/NY6 bowl appearances for each conference is...

Boise State: 3 (3 victories.)
AAC conference as a whole: 4 (3-1)

In terms of teams that are still actually in the conference. Not including schools like Utah or TCU for the MWC or schools like Miami, Louisville, West Virginia etc. for the AAC that aren't in the respective conferences anymore because that's not really relevant to how the conferences compare right now.

I mean, if we are going to be intellectually honest, it's just a fact that the American has had more success in recent years, but no team currently in the conference can match BSU in terms of number and success of appearances.

UCF is closest as they've been to the same number (3) but have a 2-1 record vs. BSU's perfect 3-0.

But there's not a single non-P5 team anywhere that matches BSU's 12 times finishing in the top-25 since 2002. Nobody has had BSU's consistency and ability to reload.

Which conference gets the NY6 bowl invite this year is certainly up in the air and should be fun to watch.

If we are calling out "carefully chosen cut off points" ... what's the significance of 2002?

I guess for one much larger sample size but I get your point.

It was the second season of BSU in the WAC, which is really what I consider to be the first real FBS conference that BSU was in.

But if you like you can bump it back to 1996, which is really when BSU joined the top level of college football.

It won't change the underlying point that no school outside of the P5 has the same resume since then that Boise has, no matter what the conference.

There are just certain basic facts that are true and if we're going to have an honest debate should be acknowledged. The AAC has had better performance than the MWC in recent years. No G5 team in the country has had more overall success than BSU over the last couple of decades.

(09-06-2019 04:40 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:14 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 02:29 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

We’re paid less than Vanderbilt and Indiana too. What is your point?

You aren't the biggest brand name G5 school, this isn't 2007. All the headlines are about UCF, the only time I've even seen Boise mentioned was when you beat FSU. (A bad FSU team at that.)

Keep telling yourself that if that’s what gets you through the day. Virtually every single sports TV and radio show has talked us up big time about our comeback win over Florida State in Tallahassee with a true freshman quarterback. ESPN loves us and they love Hank. You guys are a cute story and had a nice little run, and when you lose to Stanford you will revert back to irrelevant mediocrity like you have been mired in for 95% of your schools history. As has been mentioned already, we have been ranked for at least one week in the top 25 or 18 years straight. Come back to me when you guys are more than a Johnny-come-lately.

(09-06-2019 04:40 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:14 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 02:29 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:24 PM)thespywhozaggedme Wrote:  

(09-04-2019 07:14 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  ECU is getting paid more than Boise.

How is that relevant to us versus our mountain west brethren?

Just wanted to remind the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country that they are paid less than ECU.

We’re paid less than Vanderbilt and Indiana too. What is your point?

Ahhh, but they are not G5 now are they?

Its just interesting that the Biggest Brand Name G5 Team in The Country is paid less than little old obscure ECU. :coffeey3:

You missed my point; like East Carolina, we are vastly superior to Indiana and Vanderbilt. And like the latter three, we are paid less than all of them.

(09-06-2019 04:45 PM)nocoolnamejim Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:40 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-06-2019 04:35 PM)nocoolnamejim Wrote:  Just going to gently point out that college football history does go back to before the NY6 bowl era.

When we go back beyond the very carefully chosen cutoff point that a couple of posters have listed in this thread, the count of BCS/NY6 bowl appearances for each conference is...

Boise State: 3 (3 victories.)
AAC conference as a whole: 4 (3-1)

In terms of teams that are still actually in the conference. Not including schools like Utah or TCU for the MWC or schools like Miami, Louisville, West Virginia etc. for the AAC that aren't in the respective conferences anymore because that's not really relevant to how the conferences compare right now.

I mean, if we are going to be intellectually honest, it's just a fact that the American has had more success in recent years, but no team currently in the conference can match BSU in terms of number and success of appearances.

UCF is closest as they've been to the same number (3) but have a 2-1 record vs. BSU's perfect 3-0.

But there's not a single non-P5 team anywhere that matches BSU's 12 times finishing in the top-25 since 2002. Nobody has had BSU's consistency and ability to reload.

Which conference gets the NY6 bowl invite this year is certainly up in the air and should be fun to watch.

If we are calling out "carefully chosen cut off points" ... what's the significance of 2002?

I guess for one much larger sample size but I get your point.

It was the second season of BSU in the WAC, which is really what I consider to be the first real FBS conference that BSU was in.

But if you like you can bump it back to 1996, which is really when BSU joined the top level of college football.

It won't change the underlying point that no school outside of the P5 has the same resume since then that Boise has, no matter what the conference.

There are just certain basic facts that are true and if we're going to have an honest debate should be acknowledged. The AAC has had better performance than the MWC in recent years. No G5 team in the country has had more overall success than BSU over the last couple of decades.

Jim, you are using common sense, logic, facts and reason. Be careful with that. LOL And for the record after one week the MWC has a superior P5 OOC record to the AAC.