(01-21-2020 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Did anyone else find day 1 a snooze fest?

How is adam Schiff giving 1 hour monologues supposed to excite anyone?

It worked for his buddy Epstein...$ch!t looks much more the part. Plus, he's closer to Hollyweird.

The Senate exists for moments like this

(01-21-2020 02:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  These WH lawyers are beyond pathetic.

History, and legal scholars, will not be kind.

I agree they don't look great today...but..this is obviously a strategy to keep it brief and end this first day of amendments AQAP and move on to the trial. I expect they will have plenty to say then. It looks today as if the managers are trying to get a head start on the process. I give them cred on this strategy.

Hakeem, peace be upon him, Jeffries calls trump a KKK wizard. This isn’t an impeachment. It’s a hate fest for psycho losers.

The democrats are a joke. That is all. I couldn't watch.

Trump Lawyer Jay Sekulow Exposes Adam Schiff as a Fraud and a Liar

Quote:Jay Sekulow, one of Trump’s personal lawyers who joined the president’s impeachment defense team went off on Adam Schiff for fabricating Trump’s call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Sekulow also said the Democrats violated the Constitution when they denied President Trump due process during the sham impeaching hearings in the House.

“The President was denied the right to cross-examine witnesses. The President was denied the right to access evidence and the President was denied the right to have counsel present at hearings,” Sekulow said.

“That’s a trifecta,” Sekulow said referring to Schiff’s earlier statements. “A trifecta that violates the Constitution of the United States.”

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Schiff didn't enjoy this...

Quote:Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff stared down President Trump’s lawyers on the Senate floor Tuesday as they accused him of lying to the American people and denying Trump due process during the impeachment investigation.

Trump lawyers Pat Cipollone and Jay Sekulow repeatedly ripped into Democrats, especially Schiff, on the first day of arguments in the Senate impeachment trial, as the House Intelligence Committee chairman -- who is serving as the top Democratic impeachment manager -- sat up straight in his chair and didn’t take his eyes off his accusers.

The lawyers invoked Schiff’s name over and over again, accusing him of hiding documents, conducting an unfair impeachment inquiry and fabricating the text of the July 25 phone call between Trump and the president of Ukraine.

Just as Schiff sat down from making a lengthy opening case for new witnesses and documents, Sekulow took over and with a booming voice accused Schiff of telling falsehoods and “put[ting] words into transcripts that did not exist.”

Schiff kept his eyes wide open and glued on Sekulow, possibly aghast that Trump’s lawyers were putting him on trial.

Then it was Cipollone’s turn. He said it was “difficult” to hear Schiff tell his “tale.” He laid into Schiff even more and accused his staff of working with the Ukraine whistleblower, "contrary to his prior statements."

“Will Mr. Schiff give documents,” Cipollone pressed.

Schiff stared down Cipollone and didn’t flinch.

Trump’s lawyer then blasted Schiff for taking dramatic liberties with the phone call Trump had with the president of Ukraine, rather than reading the call transcript exactly during an impeaching hearing.

“He manufactured a false version of that call,” Cipollone said. “He read it to the American people, and he didn't tell them it was a complete fake. Do you want to know about due process? I’ll tell you about due process. Never before in the history of our country has a president been confronted with this kind of impeachment proceeding in the House.”

Schiff remained stoic under attack. Though at one point, he turned to face the Democratic impeachment lawyers seated across the table from him and shook his head when Cipollone accused him of blocking Republicans to the secret impeachment proceedings in the House basement known as the SCIF.

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(01-21-2020 02:50 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Dems still on fishing expeditions.

Id call it more a Hail Mary. They know they have no chance of removing Trump without being able to get the key players on the stand and grill them under oath in front of the GOP controlled Senate. The Dems rush to impeachment allowed Trump to stonewall and further evidence from coming out. Honestly...I have little doubt that he tried to get dirt on the Bidens in the Ukraine fiasco. This was a opportunity that I cant really see someone with the killer instinct of Trump being able to resist. I dont however think the way it played warranted grounds for impeachment...maybe censure by the House at worst. Both sides are corrupt as schit and what we are seeing is that playing out. Its politics. Nothing more than corrupt politics.

(01-21-2020 07:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:53 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:46 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 05:58 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Val Demings comes across as ignorant, she stutters through the text she's reading verbatim like it's the first time she read it. She can't even do the summary from memory. Exactly how is Trump trying to CHEAT to win the 2020 election? Securing the most electoral votes?

By keeping what he promised to do on the campaign trail. Something no modern President has done.

Like ...

More Jobs, New North American Trade deal, New deal with China, Tax reform, cut regulations, strong economic growth, did I mention MORE JOBS...

You left out two, two that use to be big democrat points...

1. build the wall (took longer to get around to it but its now getting built)
2. justice reform

Thats 2 the democrats under Clinton wanted and 1 under Obama. Since President Trump pushed for them. The democrats think both are evil.

You can also put A Red Line in the sand, so that's 3 more. I'm sure the list could be added on to. Why bother the only reply will be talking points.

Let me get one thing out of the way, I am not trolling.

I am genuinely trying to figure out the Trump worship thing..

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I don't do talking points and I am far more conservative than I am liberal.

I think my only liberal thing is marijuana and equal rights, if that makes me liberal then okay, I am liberal.

What exactly is a redline in the sand?

(01-21-2020 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Did anyone else find day 1 a snooze fest?

How is adam Schiff giving 1 hour monologues supposed to excite anyone?

If you don't mind me asking, why should Adam Schiff or any of this excite someone?

And why didn't Jana listen?

Is she just assuming what he is saying?

Or is she going to get to the bottom of it in a Fox News blurb?

(01-21-2020 08:31 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Did anyone else find day 1 a snooze fest?

How is adam Schiff giving 1 hour monologues supposed to excite anyone?

It worked for his buddy Epstein...$ch!t looks much more the part. Plus, he's closer to Hollyweird.

I think Romney is the most obnoxious moron in DC

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(01-21-2020 09:31 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 07:26 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Did anyone else find day 1 a snooze fest?

How is adam Schiff giving 1 hour monologues supposed to excite anyone?

If you don't mind me asking, why should Adam Schiff or any of this excite someone?

And why didn't Jana listen?

Is she just assuming what he is saying?

Or is she going to get to the bottom of it in a Fox News blurb?

More conservative than liberal, huh? You could have waited at least a few more posts before hitting the Fox News Bad button.

(01-21-2020 09:26 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 07:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:53 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:46 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  By keeping what he promised to do on the campaign trail. Something no modern President has done.

Like ...

More Jobs, New North American Trade deal, New deal with China, Tax reform, cut regulations, strong economic growth, did I mention MORE JOBS...

You left out two, two that use to be big democrat points...

1. build the wall (took longer to get around to it but its now getting built)
2. justice reform

Thats 2 the democrats under Clinton wanted and 1 under Obama. Since President Trump pushed for them. The democrats think both are evil.

You can also put A Red Line in the sand, so that's 3 more. I'm sure the list could be added on to. Why bother the only reply will be talking points.

Let me get one thing out of the way, I am not trolling.

I am genuinely trying to figure out the Trump worship thing..

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I don't do talking points and I am far more conservative than I am liberal.

I think my only liberal thing is marijuana and equal rights, if that makes me liberal then okay, I am liberal.

What exactly is a redline in the sand?

When you step over it you find your brains splatted all over the road. Instead of a plane full of money, or I'm going to give you another chance not to step over the line. Ok, 2, no 3 but I'm promising you I'm getting close to the last time you can step over the line.

You asked what did Trump say he was going to do before becoming President. There's not one thing on that list that's "talking points" I believe everyone stated are actual FACTS. If you dont believe they are lets hear the reason you disagree..without talking points. Since you dont do that.

Damn I thought I was going to learn where I can get peach mints.

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(01-21-2020 10:20 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Damn I thought I was going to learn where I can get peach mints.

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If I were McConnel, after this is over I'd send every Democrat house member a 100 pound bag of peach ments.

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I am now seeing if peach mints are a thing. Dangers of a phone late at night.

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(01-21-2020 09:26 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 07:47 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:53 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:46 PM)New Here 101 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 06:37 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  By keeping what he promised to do on the campaign trail. Something no modern President has done.

Like ...

More Jobs, New North American Trade deal, New deal with China, Tax reform, cut regulations, strong economic growth, did I mention MORE JOBS...

You left out two, two that use to be big democrat points...

1. build the wall (took longer to get around to it but its now getting built)
2. justice reform

Thats 2 the democrats under Clinton wanted and 1 under Obama. Since President Trump pushed for them. The democrats think both are evil.

You can also put A Red Line in the sand, so that's 3 more. I'm sure the list could be added on to. Why bother the only reply will be talking points.

Let me get one thing out of the way, I am not trolling.

I am genuinely trying to figure out the Trump worship thing..

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I don't do talking points and I am far more conservative than I am liberal.

I think my only liberal thing is marijuana and equal rights, if that makes me liberal then okay, I am liberal.

What exactly is a redline in the sand?

Take the irrational bull goose loony anti Trump thing and just flip it—-then subtract the illogic.

(01-21-2020 09:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 02:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  These WH lawyers are beyond pathetic.

History, and legal scholars, will not be kind.

I agree they don't look great today...but..this is obviously a strategy to keep it brief and end this first day of amendments AQAP and move on to the trial. I expect they will have plenty to say then. It looks today as if the managers are trying to get a head start on the process. I give them cred on this strategy.

I found hahhryyy.....

Democrats are not in touch with reality if they think today went well for them.

(01-21-2020 11:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Democrats are not in touch with reality if they think today went well for them.

A man falls in love in grade school and loves that girl until she becomes a woman and waits on her and on their wedding night they know what bliss is.

Another man never loves anything or anyone but himself and when he is of age beds the first one who says yes. There is no pent up desire, no longing of love well aged, and no anticipation. He wants it because he believes it is what everyone else gets. He has no respect for himself, the woman, the moment, or the passion.

The first man creates a life for himself. The second goes through the motion and resents the lives of others.

The first man never envies another because he is too busy being the author of his own existence and he takes joy in his friends who do the same ever how different their lives are.

The second man envies everything that his mind did not conceive of, his labor never served or built, and hates those who enjoy their lives because of his own inadequacies and his own lack of authentic passion for anything.

In this world the first man enjoys life, is sad when it's over, but gives his creator thanks.

The second man sees only inequities which are due in large part to his own lack of imagination, his own lack of effort, and despises his life and can only justify it by how he condemns those who made the most of it. So he seeks their destruction and in it his own. He claims there is no creator, but spends his last days screaming against one.

The first man and the second man have the same gift, life. The first makes the most of it. The second becomes a Democrat.