Colgate-Cornell-Binghamton

I'm never going to feel the same way about Pittsburgh/West Virginia because I'm always going to feel biased towards Pittsburgh/Penn State. I would think (or want to think) that while Pittsburgh was still playing Penn State on a regular basis that Penn State was the team they wanted to beat more than West Virginia and the "Backyard Brawl" didn't really become a thing until the Big East football conference started (which for many of you was a long time ago but I remember quite a few years before it happened so call me old!)

(06-05-2020 07:41 AM)schmolik Wrote:  I'm never going to feel the same way about Pittsburgh/West Virginia because I'm always going to feel biased towards Pittsburgh/Penn State. I would think (or want to think) that while Pittsburgh was still playing Penn State on a regular basis that Penn State was the team they wanted to beat more than West Virginia and the "Backyard Brawl" didn't really become a thing until the Big East football conference started (which for many of you was a long time ago but I remember quite a few years before it happened so call me old!)

AFAIK, Penn State-WVU was pretty big too.

Rice - Houston
Rice - SMU
Rice - Tulane

(06-05-2020 07:20 AM)whittx Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 10:05 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Notre Dame - Navy

Colorado - Nebraska

College of Charleston - Citadel - Charleston Southern

UNC-Charlotte - Davidson - Winthrop - Elon - High Point

Kansas - Mizzou

Utah - Hawai’i

TCU - SMU

UMass - UConn

Texas Tech - UTEP - UTSA - Texas St. - UNM - NMSU

Iowa - Iowa State

North Dakota State - Kansas State

Louisiana Tech - Arkansas State - Lafayette - Monroe

Maryland - Temple

Duke - Rutgers

Virginia Tech - East Carolina - Coastal - ODU - JMU - VCU - Richmond - George Mason - Radford - Longwood - VMI - UNC-Wilmington - Hampton - Campbell - William & Mary - American

Georgia Tech - Alabama

West Virginia - Miami

South Alabama - Southern Miss - Troy - UAB

Tulane - Rice - Wake Forest - Vanderbilt

Liberty - Bob Jones - Oral Roberts - Regent - BYU - Grand Canyon - Ave Maria - Pepperdine

I think that CofC, Winthrop, and Coastal Carolina should be together.

The South Carolina state government just gave the Panthers tens of millions of dollars to move their practice facility and offices into SC, it would’ve been cool if they’d tried to wrangle a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium for a Winthrop football team/Charlotte MLS team as part of that. A FB league with Winthrop, Coastal, ECU, UNCC, App. State, ODU, JMU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern and Marshall would be compact and fun. You could thrown in FIU and FAU if you wanted an in for recruiting in Florida too.

(06-04-2020 03:10 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 02:03 PM)johnintx Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 12:20 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Oklahoma and Nebraska **

** Oklahoma vs Texas and Bedlam are bigger to OU, so maybe it's not as necessary as we make it out to be.

It's not necessary, but it'll be a nice pair of home-and-homes starting next season in Norman, the 50th anniversary of the Game Of The Last Century. It's like Florida and Tennessee in the 90s and 2000s: two conference rivals that are not near each other but had played big games against each other. In our case, really big games. There's a lot of history there from the old Big 8, but not much proximity. OU people and Nebraska people don't normally end up in the same places, especially now. Texas and OSU are rivalries built on blood. Nebraska was one built on high stakes and respect.

Had the original Big 12 alignment allowed for OU and Nebraska to play every year, perhaps it would be different. When the Big 12 came into being, Nebraska was at its highest point, and OU was at its lowest point. OU chose to go along with a North-South division split with rotating cross-divisional opponents and no permanent cross-division opponents. That alignment turned out to be one of many causes of the downfall of Big 12 1.0.

I was at the Iowa St-Oklahoma game last year and there were at least 30 Nebraska fans at the game. That was surprising as they're 6 hours apart. They must miss each other.

I was at the last Nebraska - Rutgers game in New Brunswick NJ. The stadium was sold out and was a sea of RED. At the end of the 3rd quarter the stadium was only 3/4's full and they were all NEBRASKA FANS and my family. Tailgated with Nebraska fans all around us. The people we talked to next to us were from Nova Scotia and they were heading to Penn State the next week. Nebraska fans travel in from all over the country and Canada.

(06-05-2020 10:34 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 07:20 AM)whittx Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 10:05 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Notre Dame - Navy

Colorado - Nebraska

College of Charleston - Citadel - Charleston Southern

UNC-Charlotte - Davidson - Winthrop - Elon - High Point

Kansas - Mizzou

Utah - Hawai’i

TCU - SMU

UMass - UConn

Texas Tech - UTEP - UTSA - Texas St. - UNM - NMSU

Iowa - Iowa State

North Dakota State - Kansas State

Louisiana Tech - Arkansas State - Lafayette - Monroe

Maryland - Temple

Duke - Rutgers

Virginia Tech - East Carolina - Coastal - ODU - JMU - VCU - Richmond - George Mason - Radford - Longwood - VMI - UNC-Wilmington - Hampton - Campbell - William & Mary - American

Georgia Tech - Alabama

West Virginia - Miami

South Alabama - Southern Miss - Troy - UAB

Tulane - Rice - Wake Forest - Vanderbilt

Liberty - Bob Jones - Oral Roberts - Regent - BYU - Grand Canyon - Ave Maria - Pepperdine

I think that CofC, Winthrop, and Coastal Carolina should be together.

The South Carolina state government just gave the Panthers tens of millions of dollars to move their practice facility and offices into SC, it would’ve been cool if they’d tried to wrangle a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium for a Winthrop football team/Charlotte MLS team as part of that. A FB league with Winthrop, Coastal, ECU, UNCC, App. State, ODU, JMU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern and Marshall would be compact and fun. You could thrown in FIU and FAU if you wanted an in for recruiting in Florida too.

Winthrop is over 68% female.

I don’t think being in the same conference is necessary at all.

A&M NEVER wanted to be in the B12 but was blackmailed into it by state politics to save TT and BU

UT has never had much interest in the SEC and being just another big fish in an ocean of big fish

So it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever be the same conference again

Eventually the game will be played again but I’m fine and happy with a long, AU urn/Bama style break before that happens

(06-05-2020 10:48 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 10:34 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 07:20 AM)whittx Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 10:05 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Notre Dame - Navy

Colorado - Nebraska

College of Charleston - Citadel - Charleston Southern

UNC-Charlotte - Davidson - Winthrop - Elon - High Point

Kansas - Mizzou

Utah - Hawai’i

TCU - SMU

UMass - UConn

Texas Tech - UTEP - UTSA - Texas St. - UNM - NMSU

Iowa - Iowa State

North Dakota State - Kansas State

Louisiana Tech - Arkansas State - Lafayette - Monroe

Maryland - Temple

Duke - Rutgers

Virginia Tech - East Carolina - Coastal - ODU - JMU - VCU - Richmond - George Mason - Radford - Longwood - VMI - UNC-Wilmington - Hampton - Campbell - William & Mary - American

Georgia Tech - Alabama

West Virginia - Miami

South Alabama - Southern Miss - Troy - UAB

Tulane - Rice - Wake Forest - Vanderbilt

Liberty - Bob Jones - Oral Roberts - Regent - BYU - Grand Canyon - Ave Maria - Pepperdine

I think that CofC, Winthrop, and Coastal Carolina should be together.

The South Carolina state government just gave the Panthers tens of millions of dollars to move their practice facility and offices into SC, it would’ve been cool if they’d tried to wrangle a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium for a Winthrop football team/Charlotte MLS team as part of that. A FB league with Winthrop, Coastal, ECU, UNCC, App. State, ODU, JMU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern and Marshall would be compact and fun. You could thrown in FIU and FAU if you wanted an in for recruiting in Florida too.

Winthrop is over 68% female.

What better way to attract male students than football? Title IX shouldn't be an issue either.

(06-05-2020 12:40 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 10:48 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 10:34 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 07:20 AM)whittx Wrote:  

(06-04-2020 10:05 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Notre Dame - Navy

Colorado - Nebraska

College of Charleston - Citadel - Charleston Southern

UNC-Charlotte - Davidson - Winthrop - Elon - High Point

Kansas - Mizzou

Utah - Hawai’i

TCU - SMU

UMass - UConn

Texas Tech - UTEP - UTSA - Texas St. - UNM - NMSU

Iowa - Iowa State

North Dakota State - Kansas State

Louisiana Tech - Arkansas State - Lafayette - Monroe

Maryland - Temple

Duke - Rutgers

Virginia Tech - East Carolina - Coastal - ODU - JMU - VCU - Richmond - George Mason - Radford - Longwood - VMI - UNC-Wilmington - Hampton - Campbell - William & Mary - American

Georgia Tech - Alabama

West Virginia - Miami

South Alabama - Southern Miss - Troy - UAB

Tulane - Rice - Wake Forest - Vanderbilt

Liberty - Bob Jones - Oral Roberts - Regent - BYU - Grand Canyon - Ave Maria - Pepperdine

I think that CofC, Winthrop, and Coastal Carolina should be together.

The South Carolina state government just gave the Panthers tens of millions of dollars to move their practice facility and offices into SC, it would’ve been cool if they’d tried to wrangle a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium for a Winthrop football team/Charlotte MLS team as part of that. A FB league with Winthrop, Coastal, ECU, UNCC, App. State, ODU, JMU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern and Marshall would be compact and fun. You could thrown in FIU and FAU if you wanted an in for recruiting in Florida too.

Winthrop is over 68% female.

What better way to attract male students than football? Title IX shouldn't be an issue either.

Title IX would be a massive issue as Winthrop already does not meet the strictest criteria. This was addressed in the feasibility study Winthrop had done concerning adding football.

https://www.winthrop.edu/uploadedFiles/p...lStudy.pdf

Cincinnati, Louisville, Pitt, WVU for me.

Hopefully next round if realignment will put them all in the ACC. It made the last 3 weeks of Football and Basketball crazy.

(06-05-2020 01:21 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 12:40 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 10:48 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 10:34 AM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 07:20 AM)whittx Wrote:  I think that CofC, Winthrop, and Coastal Carolina should be together.

The South Carolina state government just gave the Panthers tens of millions of dollars to move their practice facility and offices into SC, it would’ve been cool if they’d tried to wrangle a 20,000-30,000 seat stadium for a Winthrop football team/Charlotte MLS team as part of that. A FB league with Winthrop, Coastal, ECU, UNCC, App. State, ODU, JMU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern and Marshall would be compact and fun. You could thrown in FIU and FAU if you wanted an in for recruiting in Florida too.

Winthrop is over 68% female.

What better way to attract male students than football? Title IX shouldn't be an issue either.

Title IX would be a massive issue as Winthrop already does not meet the strictest criteria. This was addressed in the feasibility study Winthrop had done concerning adding football.

https://www.winthrop.edu/uploadedFiles/p...lStudy.pdf

Yep. Winthrop was an all-female school as late as the 1970s. And even now most of the people go there for teaching. More female even than the College of Charleston. CofC is 65/35 female.

That’s why they always have problems drawing big crowds to basketball. They didn’t even sell out this year for the Big South final. And almost half of Winthrop’s students live on campus. CofC only has 32%.

Winthrop would sellout in 2007 when they were ranked in the top-25 and had games on ESPN. They had a local tv deal back then too. Winthrop was a big name.

Give me a division of WVU, Pitt, VT, Lousiville, Cincy and Memphis. Lotta hate in that division.

Match it with a division in the east of PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, BC, Cuse and Temple.

There are four privates (all with good academics and institutional profile) in the G5 ranks.

Tulane, Rice, SMU, and Tulsa.

They all feel like a very odd fit in any particular conference. Tulane, SMU, and Tulsa only work because they are at least together (and were AAC West division mates with Navy).

The reality of TV (ugh) is that everyone has to be smashed into a box - but if you take the TV money away, I sometimes wonder if all four would do better as major independents.

JSU, UAB, Troy, USA, UNA, Samford
GaSo, Ga State, Valdosta, Kennesaw, Mercer
Chattanooga, Middle, ETSU, TTU, Austin Peay, Memphis, UTM, Tn ST
McNeese, La Lafayette, Tulane, ULM, SELA, NW St, La Tech, Grambling, Southern, Nicholls, Lamar,
Tx St, SFA, Sam Houston, Houston, SMU, N TX, UTEP, Rice
Ark St, UCA
SEMO, Mizz St
WIU, EIU, NIU, SIU, ISUr
WCU, App, UNCC, ECU, NC AT, Elon
CCU, Wofford, Furman, Citadel,
JMU, Hampton, ODU, W&M, Richmond, Liberty, VMI
EKU, WKU, Murray

In terms of proximity, the two pairs of closest FBS schools to each other are not in the same conference.

Houston and Rice are #1 - about 4 miles from each other.

Can you name #2? They're about 5 or 6 miles from each other - and again are in difference conferences.

(06-05-2020 09:12 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  In terms of proximity, the two pairs of closest FBS schools to each other are not in the same conference.

Houston and Rice are #1 - about 4 miles from each other.

Can you name #2? They're about 5 or 6 miles from each other - and again are in difference conferences.

Not looking it up, but would guess the Wolverines and Hurons.

Louisville - Kentucky
Louisville - Memphis
Louisville - Cincinnati
Louisville - Indiana
Kentucky - Indiana
Liberty - ODU

(06-05-2020 09:15 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-05-2020 09:12 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  In terms of proximity, the two pairs of closest FBS schools to each other are not in the same conference.

Houston and Rice are #1 - about 4 miles from each other.

Can you name #2? They're about 5 or 6 miles from each other - and again are in difference conferences.

Not looking it up, but would guess the Wolverines and Hurons.

I think that's it. FIU and Miami are about 8 miles apart as the crow flies, as are Duke and UNC-CH.