(07-02-2020 12:04 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: Is it a coincidence that there are so many coincidences regarding so many that 'knew' the Clintons?
They aren't coincidences. Any serious investigation of this body count reveals nothing but a bunch of lies trying to make things look suspicious.
You think Epstein did a front roll off the top bunk and stuck a perfect 4 point landing while snapping his neck?
Lights! No cameras, no guard action!
Uhhhh, ok. You do you I guess.
Dude, that's a FAR cry from Clinton having him killed.
True.
So, whats your theory? The bad hombre that’s was supposedly moved the day before?
Why was Epstein described as “upbeat” and looking forward to beating the rap according to his lawyers?
Tom, please correct me if I'm wrong....
I don't think Tom is disputing that circumstances surrounding Epstein's death were fishy. It is definitely believable (if not likely IMO) that someone arranged for his murder. But there is no evidence yet that the Clinton's had a hand in it. There are probably hundreds of people with money and power who would have benefited from Epstein's silence.
(07-02-2020 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: They aren't coincidences. Any serious investigation of this body count reveals nothing but a bunch of lies trying to make things look suspicious.
You think Epstein did a front roll off the top bunk and stuck a perfect 4 point landing while snapping his neck?
Lights! No cameras, no guard action!
Uhhhh, ok. You do you I guess.
Dude, that's a FAR cry from Clinton having him killed.
True.
So, whats your theory? The bad hombre that’s was supposedly moved the day before?
Why was Epstein described as “upbeat” and looking forward to beating the rap according to his lawyers?
Tom, please correct me if I'm wrong....
I don't think Tom is disputing that circumstances surrounding Epstein's death were fishy. It is definitely believable (if not likely IMO) that someone arranged for his murder. But there is no evidence yet that the Clinton's had a hand in it. There are probably hundreds of people with money and power who would have benefited from Epstein's silence.
(07-02-2020 12:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: They aren't coincidences. Any serious investigation of this body count reveals nothing but a bunch of lies trying to make things look suspicious.
You think Epstein did a front roll off the top bunk and stuck a perfect 4 point landing while snapping his neck?
Lights! No cameras, no guard action!
Uhhhh, ok. You do you I guess.
Dude, that's a FAR cry from Clinton having him killed.
True.
So, whats your theory? The bad hombre that’s was supposedly moved the day before?
Why was Epstein described as “upbeat” and looking forward to beating the rap according to his lawyers?
Child molesters don't fair well in prisons.
Many people wanted him dead on both sides of the aisle.
He likely knew his fate in prison and ended it.
It's one of those three....and none of us know or will likely ever find out.
(07-02-2020 01:44 PM)tigergreen Wrote: If you haven't seen the Epstein doc on Netflix yet, check it out. It blew my mind that she hadn't been arrested with the same charges that he had after watching. Glad to hear she's getting hers now.
I also loved the fair and balanced depictions regarding Trump and Clinton. Clinton was barely mentioned and Trump had a number of mentions and at least one in each episode.
Records show that Clinton spent way more time with that sick f*ck than the Donald did.
Democrats are dirty. Republicans are dirty. The Royal Family was dirty. Hollywood was dirty. Wall Street was dirty. Harvard was dirty. Jeffrey and Ghislaine had their fingers in a lot of pies. It's not just Clinton or Trump. Don't be stupid. This is a class of people richer and more powerful than the law. I'm with JD, let's lose the partisan sniping and hope every predator involved with these two gets their dirty laundry put out there, and hopefully we can find out how Epstein got to where he did.
(07-02-2020 06:31 PM)Mav Wrote: Democrats are dirty. Republicans are dirty. The Royal Family was dirty. Hollywood was dirty. Wall Street was dirty. Harvard was dirty. Jeffrey and Ghislaine had their fingers in a lot of pies. It's not just Clinton or Trump. Don't be stupid. This is a class of people richer and more powerful than the law. I'm with JD, let's lose the partisan sniping and hope every predator involved with these two gets their dirty laundry put out there, and hopefully we can find out how Epstein got to where he did.
Well if you are looking at Trump, you are looking at the ONLY person we know of who did anything about Epstein.
(07-02-2020 02:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Child molesters don't fair well in prisons.
Many people wanted him dead on both sides of the aisle. He likely knew his fate in prison and ended it.
It's one of those three....and none of us know or will likely ever find out.
(07-02-2020 12:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: You think Epstein did a front roll off the top bunk and stuck a perfect 4 point landing while snapping his neck?
Lights! No cameras, no guard action!
Uhhhh, ok. You do you I guess.
Dude, that's a FAR cry from Clinton having him killed.
True.
So, whats your theory? The bad hombre that’s was supposedly moved the day before?
Why was Epstein described as “upbeat” and looking forward to beating the rap according to his lawyers?
Child molesters don't fair well in prisons.
Many people wanted him dead on both sides of the aisle.
He likely knew his fate in prison and ended it.
It's one of those three....and none of us know or will likely ever find out.
I’m surprised a Joe Biden fan would admit that.
I'm surprised that even though I've posted like a dozen times now that I'm not a Biden fan nor am currently planning on voting for him that you continually assert otherwise.
(07-02-2020 10:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote: Name EVERYONE, both sides please. We know there are creeper dems, repubs, indys, name them all.
Maybe this time, people who want some semblance of justice on earth have already gathered the information and proof she possesses . That way, it won't matter quite as much if she's dead or alive.
But even 'royalty' is involved. Do those Brits hire hit men....just wonderin'
edit: I agree. When it comes to creeps....political, religious, race, gender, economic etc... lines get blurry and irrelevant
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Quote:The real estate broker who sold Ghislaine Maxwell the luxury home on a 156-acre estate in New Hampshire said Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madame inquired about the flight patterns over the property before buying the spread, according to a report.
“She wanted to know what the flight patterns were over the house, which was very strange,” the broker told The Daily Beast about the remote property in Bradford where the 58-year-old British socialite took refuge.
The broker told the outlet she had never met Maxwell, but that a British man who she assumed was the husband showed up for the home inspection, telling her he had just sold his tech company and was looking to buy a house in the U.S.
Maxwell, who was busted Thursday for allegedly conspiring with the disgraced financier to sexually abuse minors, bought the spread in an all-cash deal through what prosecutors called a "carefully anonymized LLC" in court papers filed Thursday.
Law enforcement sources confirmed that the property sits at 338 E. Washington Road and sold for $1.07 million on Dec. 13, according to the Zillow website.
(07-02-2020 12:33 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: You think Epstein did a front roll off the top bunk and stuck a perfect 4 point landing while snapping his neck?
Lights! No cameras, no guard action!
Uhhhh, ok. You do you I guess.
Dude, that's a FAR cry from Clinton having him killed.
True.
So, whats your theory? The bad hombre that’s was supposedly moved the day before?
Why was Epstein described as “upbeat” and looking forward to beating the rap according to his lawyers?
Tom, please correct me if I'm wrong....
I don't think Tom is disputing that circumstances surrounding Epstein's death were fishy. It is definitely believable (if not likely IMO) that someone arranged for his murder. But there is no evidence yet that the Clinton's had a hand in it. There are probably hundreds of people with money and power who would have benefited from Epstein's silence.
Exactly.
So, both of you seem to believe he was murdered, correct?
Hunh. Coroner(s) and law enforcement seem to disagree. Yet, where were the guards? The cameras? How is one rubbed out while alone in a locked cell?
Again, lots of coincidences happened when the highest profile prisoner in the U.S. system was being 'guarded.'
I've read a few people who argue that this is all theater meant to get folks to believe in justice when it is really a scam to protect the rich and powerful from ever having to face justice for what they've done. The prediction is that not much will happen and few will be held to account.
The FBI has had evidence of some of this stuff on Epstein for almost 20 years. What have they been waiting on?
Don't know if any of you had seen or heard of this, but a big scandal is brewing in Germany involving a large network of pedophiles and this news just broke in the last few days. Up to 30,000 are being investigated and this is in all the major newpapers and TV there. Some reports have said it seems to involve A LOT of politicians and LE, along with child protective services. (Sounds familiar)
Quote:EXCLUSIVE — A woman who claims Ghislaine Maxwell raped her dozens of times – beginning when she was just 14 years old – says she is willing to take the stand and testify against Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend.
In an exclusive interview with Fox News, Jane Doe, who wishes to protect her identity, said Maxwell sexually abused her beginning in 1991 in Florida. She said the abuse continued until she was 16.
Maxwell was arrested Thursday on federal charges for facilitating and participating in sexual abuse acts with minors,
“She did rape me. I would say it’s more than 20 or 30 times,” she said. “She is just as evil as Jeffrey Epstein … She is a rapist.”
Jane Doe claims years of sexual abuse came to an end only after she became pregnant with Jeffrey Epstein’s baby. At age 16, she had an abortion.
“I had never been with anyone except for him [Epstein],” said Doe, who is part of a lawsuit filed against Epstein’s estate over a year ago. “The fact that I had to kill my child really affected me and my family.”
Suspecting that she had told her grandparents about the abortion, and fearful she would talk to authorities, Doe says, Maxwell, Epstein and others gang-raped her one last time as punishment. “Ghislaine was a part of it,” Doe said. “I was drugged.”
After the rape, Doe said, a driver with a gun drove her to her home. “I was dumped off in my grandparents yard naked, and was told that I wouldn’t come back alive the next time,” Doe said.
Fearful for her life, Doe said, her grandfather put her into hiding. She dropped out of high school. “I basically kind of vanished,” she said. “Ms. Maxwell was a participant, and she made it very clear that I was to keep my mouth shut or harm would come to my family and myself and harm did come to me.”
Raised by her grandparents in Florida, Doe said she was recruited in 1991 by a friend and introduced to Maxwell and Epstein, who promised to help her with her modeling career. Maxwell would pick her up from school and her grandparents' house, she said. She was given a pager and Maxwell would take her shopping and buy her Louis Vuitton purses, Doe added. But those days would eventually turn to sexual abuse.
reveals nothing but a bunch of lies trying to make things look suspicious.
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