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(07-06-2020 09:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
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(07-05-2020 04:23 PM)NoDak Wrote:  BC, BU, Providence, UConn and maybe others consider UMLowell, Vt, UNH, Merrimack, Maine, and others too small and want their own league. A split was talked when the new commish was hired. Maybe they want Syracuse.

A lukewarm rock has more brain function than you do. None of what you just discussed is in the vicinity of factual.

So guess BC wants UML, Maine, and Merrimack in the ACC then.
UML's a strong program at the moment, Maine has a winning tradition, and UConn sucks. Think about what you're saying.
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So BC is going to affirm UN-Lowells application to the ACC? BC will become one big joke like you are.

Didn't ever mention UConn and ACC. Mentioned Merrimack and you bit on it.
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RE: UND and UMD to the Big Ten in Hockey?
(07-06-2020 09:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-06-2020 07:31 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  
(07-05-2020 04:23 PM)NoDak Wrote:  BC, BU, Providence, UConn and maybe others consider UMLowell, Vt, UNH, Merrimack, Maine, and others too small and want their own league. A split was talked when the new commish was hired. Maybe they want Syracuse.

A lukewarm rock has more brain function than you do. None of what you just discussed is in the vicinity of factual.

So guess BC wants UML, Maine, and Merrimack in the ACC then.

I don't understand what you are saying, is your thesis that BC will be in some sort of ACC Hockey league? And, this ACC Hockey league will consist of schools already in the ACC? In which case, Hockey East would continue as is, without BC, and add like Holy Cross.

Or is the ACC going to sponsor hockey with two all sports members (BC, Notre Dame) and a bunch of affiliates, but that the bar for affiliates is going to be placed somewhere below BU, PC, and UConn but above UML, UVM, UNH, Maine, and Merrimack? So, essentially Big East schools (and the Patriot League apparently) are worthy, but the America East and NEC schools aren't? Is Holy Cross going with their conference mate BU to ACC Hockey? What about Army and Colgate?

Or is your thesis that BC is going to use some sort of leverage over the ACC to get its preferred hockey schools admitted to the ACC in all sports? Setting aside that if BC threatened to leave if they didn't get their demands, the ACC would happily pay for their moving costs, BC wants to add three New England teams to the ACC? Two of whom don't play football? One of whom can't average more than 500 fans per basketball game? I'm sure Clemson, UNC, and Duke are really excited about visiting Boston University for conference basketball games.

Here is the problem with your theories that all-sport conferences are going to start taking over college hockey: The conferences that would want to do this lack the clout to do so; their members that play hockey are happier where they are than in a hockey league sponsored by their basketball conferences and would be willing to leave their all sport conferences in order to stay. The conferences that have the clout to force a move on their members don't give a crap about hockey (or would really rather not have the headache).

The Big Ten was the lone conference that had both the clout and the care. They could strong arm the teams in the league that were reluctant by saying it was a condition of Big Ten all sport membership to move your hockey program, and those schools would move hockey to preserve their Big Ten membership. The Big Ten also had 6 schools that gave a crap about hockey, and a need to fill air time on the BTN. So, they cared that this happened.
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RE: UND and UMD to the Big Ten in Hockey?
(07-07-2020 12:26 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  The Big Ten also had 6 schools that gave a crap about hockey, and a need to fill air time on the BTN. So, they cared that this happened.

And one of the six was a new start up, while the other three Eastern Division schools seem like they cared more about playing each other than which conference they did it in ... so it wouldn't be at all surprising if only Wisconsin and Minnesota had to BE strong-armed.
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My thesis is the new ACC network wants to fill out its broadcast time with hockey programming. Any ACC member, a Big East member, an Atlantic Ten or AAC member or a Hockey East member that is consistently good like BU would be members . Syracuse and Pittsburgh and likely Louisville would be priorities. Maine has been bad for too long to get any attention. Made this about the Big Ten too and created a Hockey Hell.[quote]
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(07-08-2020 05:43 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-07-2020 12:26 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  The Big Ten also had 6 schools that gave a crap about hockey, and a need to fill air time on the BTN. So, they cared that this happened.

And one of the six was a new start up, while the other three Eastern Division schools seem like they cared more about playing each other than which conference they did it in ... so it wouldn't be at all surprising if only Wisconsin and Minnesota had to BE strong-armed.

Wisconsin wanted the Big Ten years ago. Minnesota hated to leave the little Minnesota's because their fans loved it. Now the gophers perform before Masoleums.
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RE: UND and UMD to the Big Ten in Hockey?
[quote='NoDak' pid='16894955' dateline='1594230289']
Quote: My thesis is the new ACC network wants to fill out its broadcast time with hockey programming. Any ACC member, a Big East member, an Atlantic Ten or AAC member or a Hockey East member that is consistently good like BU would be members . Syracuse and Pittsburgh and likely Louisville would be priorities. Maine has been bad for too long to get any attention. Made this about the Big Ten too and created a Hockey Hell.

I'm sorry... The ACC network is hurting for winter programing? Basketball is the ACC's bread and butter.
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(07-08-2020 05:43 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-07-2020 12:26 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  The Big Ten also had 6 schools that gave a crap about hockey, and a need to fill air time on the BTN. So, they cared that this happened.

And one of the six was a new start up, while the other three Eastern Division schools seem like they cared more about playing each other than which conference they did it in ... so it wouldn't be at all surprising if only Wisconsin and Minnesota had to BE strong-armed.
Minnesota had to give up St. Cloud, Duluth, and North Dakota. I know they weren't the least bit happy about moving. As weird as this may sound, their hockey program would be a better fit in the NCHC than the B1G.
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RE: UND and UMD to the Big Ten in Hockey?
(07-08-2020 03:49 PM)Mav Wrote:  
(07-08-2020 05:43 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-07-2020 12:26 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  The Big Ten also had 6 schools that gave a crap about hockey, and a need to fill air time on the BTN. So, they cared that this happened.

And one of the six was a new start up, while the other three Eastern Division schools seem like they cared more about playing each other than which conference they did it in ... so it wouldn't be at all surprising if only Wisconsin and Minnesota had to BE strong-armed.
Minnesota had to give up St. Cloud, Duluth, and North Dakota. I know they weren't the least bit happy about moving. As weird as this may sound, their hockey program would be a better fit in the NCHC than the B1G.

Had to give up Minn St- Mankato and Bemidji St too.
They agreed to a Dairy Queen cup after the WCHA but that has fallen apart now. Minnesota fans seem to insist on Minnesota players.
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(07-08-2020 03:01 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  [quote='NoDak' pid='16894955' dateline='1594230289']
My thesis is the new ACC network wants to fill out its broadcast time with hockey programming. Any ACC member, a Big East member, an Atlantic Ten or AAC member or a Hockey East member that is consistently good like BU would be members . Syracuse and Pittsburgh and likely Louisville would be priorities. Maine has been bad for too long to get any attention. Made this about the Big Ten too and created a Hockey Hell.
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I'm sorry... The ACC network is hurting for winter programing? Basketball is the ACC's bread and butter.
Big Ten network wasn't hurting either but took the plunge.
The ACC will have top rated lax
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