Temple football was voted out of the Big East around 2003 or so, but that was just for football, not for full membership. Likewise, the option to end UMass's football relationship with the MAC was exercised in the mid 2010's. Idaho and NMSU's respective football only contracts with the Sun Belt were not renewed around the same time.

Outside of those football only relationships, the only full membership vote-outs I know of are these:

- Charlotte and Saint Louis being sent packing to the A-10 from C-USA in 2005.
- Va. Tech and VCU being left out of C-USA in the Metro/Great Midwest merger
- St. Thomas being voted out of their D3 conference

Are there any other examples?

Also, feel free to correct any mistakes I listed above.

Was Temple actually voted out of Big East football? I believe they had a contractual obligation for a minimum attendance number.

Not voted out, but Dayton was also left out of the Great Midwest/Metro merger.

I don't think it ever came to a formal vote, but I believe Chicago State was told to leave the MidCon or face such a vote back in the early 2000s.

Texas Pan-American was kicked out of the Sun Belt

https://www.espn.com/ncb/preview2000/292.html

Quote: Make no mistake, Hoffman inherits a mess. In 1996, Texas-Pan American lost its NCAA certification after charges that two assistant coaches helped recruits with correspondence course work. The certification was restored in 1998, but then the school was unceremoniously kicked out of the Sun Belt Conference, forcing it to endure Division I purgatory as an independent.

(07-05-2020 09:06 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Was Temple actually voted out of Big East football? I believe they had a contractual obligation for a minimum attendance number.

Temple was kicked out of full membership in the Big East Football Conference, which had a separate corporate existence from the all-sports Big East Conference, sort of like the Missouri Valley Football Conference today. (I think the two charters merged during the 2003-05 reorganization).

were VCU & SLU technically voted out? Didn't they leave on their own when Depaul Marquette Louisville, USF and Cincy were invited to the BE?
if I remember correctly Army FB and TCU left around the same time.
IMO Dayton stands out as being treated the worst. Everyone (almost everyone) left the Great Midwest and didn't invite them along

MAC expelled Marshall in 1969.

https://www.huntingtonquarterly.com/arti...ready.html
Huntington Quarterly article from 1997:

Quote:To many, it seems almost inconceivable that Marshall would return to the conference that kicked it out nearly 28 years ago. But to others who don't know about the reasons for that disastrous time in Thundering Herd sports history, this is the right move. Bygones are bygones, they say. Forgive and forget. So, two years after accepting the MAC's invitation to rejoin, Marshall is back. Back in the MAC.

Who would have thought it possible? Thinking back to 1969, probably no one. On and off the field it was a depressing time in Marshall football history, those late 1960s. At one point, the team registered a 27-game non-winning streak. The 1968 Thundering Herd, in its last season as a Mid-American Conference member, posted a 0-9-1 record and was outscored by its opponents 358-129. It all culminated when the university was suspended indefinitely from the MAC, its punishment for allegedly committing more than 140 recruiting violations. It wasn't uncommon for a recruit or a Marshall player back then to find money in an envelope under his plate after eating a meal, says former Marshall player Nate Ruffin.

The MAC very nearly voted Eastern Michigan out in the eighties if i recall correctly. It failed and EMU went on to win the MAC a year or two later.

Funny how the MAC, a conference so known for stability nowadays, does have a past full of the complete opposite. After all we were very nearly knocked down to DI-AA during the great split.

(07-05-2020 11:37 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The MAC very nearly voted Eastern Michigan out in the eighties if i recall correctly. It failed and EMU went on to win the MAC a year or two later.

And EMU dispatched every single school that voted against them.

(07-05-2020 11:37 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  The MAC very nearly voted Eastern Michigan out in the eighties if i recall correctly. It failed and EMU went on to win the MAC a year or two later.

Funny how the MAC, a conference so known for stability nowadays, does have a past full of the complete opposite. After all we were very nearly knocked down to DI-AA during the great split.

Stability and traditional college towns something the "metro" conferences think lacks innovation.

Did University of Chicago got booted out of the Big 10 in the 1940s for dropping sports during the war?

(07-05-2020 10:08 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  were VCU & SLU technically voted out? Didn't they leave on their own when Depaul Marquette Louisville, USF and Cincy were invited to the BE?
if I remember correctly Army FB and TCU left around the same time.
IMO Dayton stands out as being treated the worst. Everyone (almost everyone) left the Great Midwest and didn't invite them along

They formed CUSA in 1994 and kept adding schools and eventually decided they needed an existing conference instead of starting from scratch. They used the Metro. The two Virginia schools who hadn't already found a home were asked to leave.

Legally they were kicked out, but it was really more like GMW and Metro schools and others forming a new conference. It had more similarity to the forming of the Mountain West or the AAWU (when the 4 California schools and UW left WSU, Oregon, Oregon St. and Idaho behind) than it did the Big East kicking out Temple or Sun Belt kicking out UT Pan Am.

Charlotte and St Louis were told to look for another home when C-USA 2.0 was going to get new members for the 2005 season. Britton Banowski didn’t want football only and non football schools. Don’t know if Army was shown the door or they decided C-USA 2.0 wasn’t for them and decided independence was a better option.

UMass was given a "all or nothing" ultimatum by the MAC, which was all but voting them out. Yes, the final decision was up to UMass, but the condition (leave the A-10 for basketball) largely made it impossible for UMass to realistically meet the MAC demand. They were pretty much kicked out so the MAC wouldnt have to add #14.

My understanding is that UMass had that ultimatum when they joined. Temple leaving just started the official clock, right?

To me, being left out of a merger is not the same as being voted out of a conference.

St. Thomas was forcibly evicted from the MIAC.

"School kicked out of Division III conference for winning too much"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/20...-i-invite/

(07-05-2020 12:24 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  My understanding is that UMass had that ultimatum when they joined. Temple leaving just started the official clock, right?

That's what I recall. The deal between UMass and the MAC was that if the MAC offered UMass full membership, and UMass turned down the offer, the football affiliation was terminated. After Temple left, the MAC made the offer, UMass said no, and thus became a football indy.

(07-05-2020 12:01 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Did University of Chicago got booted out of the Big 10 in the 1940s for dropping sports during the war?

The university president had ended athletics altogether in 1939 because he was completely against university sports, and sports weren't brought back to Chicago until the 1950's when the administration changed. The University of Chicago was still in the academic consortium affiliated with the Big Ten until 2018, so if they had wanted to go back to having big-time sports, they likely would've been invited back. The Big Ten had nine members until 1953, so there was a lot of time after the war that Chicago could've brought back sports if they wanted to and still be in the conference.