(07-06-2020 09:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 09:25 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 08:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-06-2020 02:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The "we're all gonna die" guys over on the AAC board are writing off the football season already.

Why? Because it's getting out of control again... says CNN.

LOL. I tried, along with you, to debate them with logic and facts. It doesn't matter.

For some reason, the handful on that "the sky is falling" bandwagon over there are more hysterical than most of those on the left here.

Here's another article I'm sure they're not reading:

Dr. Atlas: New coronavirus cases should not be the focus -- it should be hospitalizations, deaths
While infection rate rises in new hotspots, death rate has not, doctor says
By Charles Creitz | Fox News

Former Stanford University Medical Center Chief of Neuroradiology Dr. Scott Atlas said Monday that there is too strong a focus on one aspect of coronavirus statistics at the present time, and not enough on another.

Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, said on "The Story" that there's been a heavy focus on an uptick in cases, especially in places where governors either have reinstated or have further enforced restrictions.

"When we see this focus on more cases, it doesn't really matter how many cases -- it only matters who gets the cases. We know that the infection-fatality rate for people under 70 is 0.04 percent -- that's less than or equal to the seasonal flu," he said.

"The cases themselves should not be and were never the focus. It's only the tragic consequences of the cases. When we look at the cases in every state, the overwhelming majority are younger and healthier people."...

...He said that instead of bad news on that front, despite the uptick in infections in various states, the death rate from coronavirus is actually decreasing.

"I realize we have to wait to see the story play out here, but right now, the cases are going up for three weeks and we have no increase, in fact, we have a decrease in death rates. It doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it -- That's what people must understand. For younger healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."...

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-atlas...aths-focus

lol...nobody on this board ever thought such...

#crazytalk

And there is a Dr. in Texas that has pointed out the difference in Hospital terminology and hospital billing that surrounds COVID. The emergency rooms are 90% occupancy, but there are plenty of reserved rooms not in use so the capacity is measured against dedicated space not total space available. And she notes that when the dedicated space is 90% full that is normal for non COVID occupancy. Then she points to the fact that 80% of the 90% occupancy is for normal ER issues now that people feel safe enough to return to the ER for issues. So stroke victims, heart attack survivors, people with influenza and not COVID, accident victims, burns, broken arms and legs, etc. are now back in the ER's.

She further pointed out that everyone entering is tested and if a guy with a broken arm tests positive then he is listed as a COVID patient because the hospital gets more government money if it is listed that way. So the number of persons in the ER at any one time who are there for other reasons but tested positive are all classified as COVID patients whether they actually feel sick or not.

a for profit maximizes subjective revenue....go figure. ...

Ja! there was never a doubt....

/sarc

(07-06-2020 09:40 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  To play devils advocate here, the deaths, or lack thereof that we are currently seeing are a result of the declining number of cases from 3-4 weeks ago.

Deaths are a trailing indicator so I don’t think you will see a measurable uptick in the death rate from the spikes of the past week or two until mid to late July.

Time will tell if that will materialize but I’m guessing it will be much less than the alarmists would have you believe due to the much younger avg age of those currently contracting the disease combined with likely much better care and therapy than we saw 2 months ago.

To add to this: there's been several studies suggesting that COVID is linked to Vitamin D deficiency.

Vitamin D is produced when sunlight hits your skin. People get exposed to a lot more sunlight in the summer, so Vitamin D deficiencies go down. Also, people with darker skin produce less Vitamin D because their skin blocks more of the sun.

It's possible that Vitamin D deficiency might just be correlated with other problems people have (like older & less active people staying indoors). Correlation is not causation. But if Vitamin D does protect against COVID, then the numbers could go right back up when it gets cold again.

The plummeting morbidity is primarily due to medicine figuring it out and catching up.

Most who died from this a few months back were dying from complications from blood clots, not pneumonia. Treatment of pneumonia was the front line at the time. Now people get heprinized or an aspirin regiment on admission and those folks walk out the door more often than not.

(07-07-2020 12:43 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The plummeting morbidity is primarily due to medicine figuring it out and catching up.

Most who died from this a few months back were dying from complications from blood clots, not pneumonia. Treatment of pneumonia was the front line at the time. Now people get heprinized or an aspirin regiment on admission and those folks walk out the door more often than not.

so, those 4-6 green BCs I pound daily and the the 8th one are effective...just for gigs, I'm hyperdosing a steroid pack now....7 days in 4....lol

if only I could find 85% cocaine....is it 4:20, yet?!

Quote:It doesn't matter if you get the illness if you're going to fully recover and be fine from it -- That's what people must understand. For younger healthier people, there's not a high risk from this disease at all."...

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-atlas...aths-focus

ROCKET FLIPPING SCIENCE

(07-07-2020 12:43 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  The plummeting morbidity is primarily due to medicine figuring it out and catching up.

Most who died from this a few months back were dying from complications from blood clots, not pneumonia. Treatment of pneumonia was the front line at the time. Now people get heprinized or an aspirin regiment on admission and those folks walk out the door more often than not.

Serious cases would likely get a low dose of Plavix and a coated aspirin. The also probably supplement the diet with zinc and Vitamin D3 & C.