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(09-08-2020 07:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Look, this is a pick ‘em thread and I am the one who has to sort through all of this bovine excrement. Create a daggone game thread if you want to have long discussions.

Ha! Sorry, didn't mean to derail the topic. I'll shut up now.
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(09-08-2020 07:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 07:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Look, this is a pick ‘em thread and I am the one who has to sort through all of this bovine excrement. Create a daggone game thread if you want to have long discussions.

Ha! Sorry, didn't mean to derail the topic. I'll shut up now.

No worries man. It’s not just you Joe and I’m not aiming my comment at anyone in particular... just a friendly request. Managing LInes In The Sand is time consuming as it is... lol
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Miami

App State
Baylor
TXST
Texas
Louisville

Not a good week for CUSA
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(09-08-2020 07:35 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 07:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 07:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Look, this is a pick ‘em thread and I am the one who has to sort through all of this bovine excrement. Create a daggone game thread if you want to have long discussions.

Ha! Sorry, didn't mean to derail the topic. I'll shut up now.

No worries man. It’s not just you Joe and I’m not aiming my comment at anyone in particular... just a friendly request. Managing LInes In The Sand is time consuming as it is... lol

Fair request, but honestly, when does a thread on CSNbbs NOT get derailed? What you're describing is the norm, not the exception.
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(09-08-2020 07:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 09:32 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 10:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 09:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 07:21 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  First, I'd like to congratulate you on your close game with SMU. It was a fine performance by Texas State.

As for the UTSA/Texas State series.... It was an unnecessary series for UTSA. UTSA signed on for an cheap local series that Texas State needs much more than they do. Now, they are going to travel 50 miles to get their butts whipped. And, Texas State will use the win against UTSA in recruiting. That hurts all of C-USA. The series was a terrible mistake by UTSA's AD.

Are you saying you think Texas State will get the better of us in the series we signed against them? You'd have to be Nostradamus to predict that far ahead, because after this year, we don't even play them again until 2023. LOTS can happen in that time, and neither you nor I know what kind of product UTSA even has yet this year.

Now, after 2023, we play them every year through 2031, but it's good for both schools. We were in the same conference together for 2 decades before UTSA got football, so there's definitely a rivalry there which brings interest to both of our programs. I certainly don't expect UTSA to win all those games, and know we'll take some hits on recruiting during years that we lose, but that's football. You don't shirk a series with a team close to you that you already have a healthy rivalry with because you might possibly lose some. That's a coward's way out, not our way, nor Texas State's.

I'm definitely concerned about our game this Saturday because Texas State does look better this year than last (based on their one game so far anyway), and again, UTSA has a brand new coaching staff which has had a very limited time to get to know their players and put in their defensive and offensive schemes during this pandemic. But we do have some talent on this team, and though there are more factors against us this weekend than in our favor, the one factor that's in our favor is that Texas State has no film on us yet.

That said, we've played them 3 times so far, and we've won all of them. Texas State may very well win this weekend; it's probably gonna be really close. But losing one is no reason to say the whole series should've been canned, nor is the possibility that we may lose some more later. Rivalries are good for football, and this one is good for both of our schools, even if our campuses are only about 50 miles apart, and even if it's OOC. That's my lengthy two cents.

I do not think Texas State is going to dominate the series. I do think they are going to mop the floor with UTSA next Saturday, but that is a matter of circumstances. I actually believe UTSA will probably win more than they lose in this series.

As for why I believe this is a bad series for UTSA... It has nothing to do with being afraid to of Texas State. It is a matter of chocking off their resources. Remember North Texas spent a decade in Texas State's shoes, as the only Texas program in the Sun Belt. It is hard to live out on an island in that conference. Donors, fans, and the media don't get excited about watching you compete with unknown programs from outside our region. UTSA already has regional rivals in Rice, North Texas, UTEP, and LA Tech. I saw no good reason why UTSA gave Texas State a lifeline to encourage their growth. I think it counterproductive. For what it is worth, I don't like the series UTSA signed with Texas either. Both of these series have me wondering if the UTSA athletic department is running out of money.

So you say it has nothing to do with being afraid of us yet you want to starve us of resources presumably so we wont be a threat? Seems contradictory.

Is that why y'all dont schedule games with us? Not sure why y'all would be afraid of us, we've been terrible for 5 years now. Guess yall dont like money. I'm willing to bet Bobcat Stadium would be a sellout if we hosted y'all. Yall would get a good crowd in Denton too.

No. I want to starve Texas State of their resources, so we can perhaps acquire some of them. It is simply a competition for resources. It isn't personal. Think of it as cannibalism (possible recruits, possible eyeballs, possible sponsorships, ....).

We don't schedule Texas State because it isn't part of our current scheduling philosophy. Aside from an 2025-26 series with USA, we don't have any Sun Belt programs scheduled over the next 12 seasons. Here is the scheduling model North Texas currently follows. A Texas State series just isn't as valuable as home and home series with Texas Tech, Baylor, Missouri, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Army, or Wyoming.

P5's (home and away series)
G5 home (ACC, MWC, or Indy preferred)
G5 away (AAC, MWC, or Indy preferred)
FCS home (buy-a-win)

While this scheduling doesn't take full effect until 2023, you can get an idea by looking at our future schedule. Here is the link...
https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

I can understand you guys not playing Texas State often, being about 4 hours apart. You guys do what's right for you. For us though, being former conference mates with Texas State, having a vested rivalry with them that predates UTSA's football program by a couple decades, and being only about 45-50 minutes apart, means that this series is right for us, because fans from both of our schools would like to see the rivalry we have carry over into football, not come to a screeching halt.
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(09-08-2020 07:16 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 09:32 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 10:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 09:45 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(09-07-2020 07:21 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  First, I'd like to congratulate you on your close game with SMU. It was a fine performance by Texas State.

As for the UTSA/Texas State series.... It was an unnecessary series for UTSA. UTSA signed on for an cheap local series that Texas State needs much more than they do. Now, they are going to travel 50 miles to get their butts whipped. And, Texas State will use the win against UTSA in recruiting. That hurts all of C-USA. The series was a terrible mistake by UTSA's AD.

Are you saying you think Texas State will get the better of us in the series we signed against them? You'd have to be Nostradamus to predict that far ahead, because after this year, we don't even play them again until 2023. LOTS can happen in that time, and neither you nor I know what kind of product UTSA even has yet this year.

Now, after 2023, we play them every year through 2031, but it's good for both schools. We were in the same conference together for 2 decades before UTSA got football, so there's definitely a rivalry there which brings interest to both of our programs. I certainly don't expect UTSA to win all those games, and know we'll take some hits on recruiting during years that we lose, but that's football. You don't shirk a series with a team close to you that you already have a healthy rivalry with because you might possibly lose some. That's a coward's way out, not our way, nor Texas State's.

I'm definitely concerned about our game this Saturday because Texas State does look better this year than last (based on their one game so far anyway), and again, UTSA has a brand new coaching staff which has had a very limited time to get to know their players and put in their defensive and offensive schemes during this pandemic. But we do have some talent on this team, and though there are more factors against us this weekend than in our favor, the one factor that's in our favor is that Texas State has no film on us yet.

That said, we've played them 3 times so far, and we've won all of them. Texas State may very well win this weekend; it's probably gonna be really close. But losing one is no reason to say the whole series should've been canned, nor is the possibility that we may lose some more later. Rivalries are good for football, and this one is good for both of our schools, even if our campuses are only about 50 miles apart, and even if it's OOC. That's my lengthy two cents.

I do not think Texas State is going to dominate the series. I do think they are going to mop the floor with UTSA next Saturday, but that is a matter of circumstances. I actually believe UTSA will probably win more than they lose in this series.

As for why I believe this is a bad series for UTSA... It has nothing to do with being afraid to of Texas State. It is a matter of chocking off their resources. Remember North Texas spent a decade in Texas State's shoes, as the only Texas program in the Sun Belt. It is hard to live out on an island in that conference. Donors, fans, and the media don't get excited about watching you compete with unknown programs from outside our region. UTSA already has regional rivals in Rice, North Texas, UTEP, and LA Tech. I saw no good reason why UTSA gave Texas State a lifeline to encourage their growth. I think it counterproductive. For what it is worth, I don't like the series UTSA signed with Texas either. Both of these series have me wondering if the UTSA athletic department is running out of money.

So you say it has nothing to do with being afraid of us yet you want to starve us of resources presumably so we wont be a threat? Seems contradictory.

Is that why y'all dont schedule games with us? Not sure why y'all would be afraid of us, we've been terrible for 5 years now. Guess yall dont like money. I'm willing to bet Bobcat Stadium would be a sellout if we hosted y'all. Yall would get a good crowd in Denton too.

No. I want to starve Texas State of their resources, so we can perhaps acquire some of them. It is simply a competition for resources. It isn't personal. Think of it as cannibalism (possible recruits, possible eyeballs, possible sponsorships, ....).

We don't schedule Texas State because it isn't part of our current scheduling philosophy. Aside from an 2025-26 series with USA, we don't have any Sun Belt programs scheduled over the next 12 seasons. Here is the scheduling model North Texas currently follows. A Texas State series just isn't as valuable as home and home series with Texas Tech, Baylor, Missouri, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Army, or Wyoming.

P5's (home and away series)
G5 home (ACC, MWC, or Indy preferred)
G5 away (AAC, MWC, or Indy preferred)
FCS home (buy-a-win)

While this scheduling doesn't take full effect until 2023, you can get an idea by looking at our future schedule. Here is the link...
https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

The UNT attitude you described towards Texas State perfectly mirrors LA Tech's relationship towards ULM. Same philosophy, except TSU seems to have many more resources than ULM.
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Miami (potential upset by UAB)

App State
Baylor (game postponed, but included just in case)
TXST (I'd pick UTSA if they were hosting)
Texas
Louisville
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All home teams...

Miami
App State
COVID-19
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Texas
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Miami
App
TXST
Texas
Louisville
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Miami
Appalachian St
Texas St
Texas
Louisville
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Uggh,
ESPN 411:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/sc...e/2/week/2

USAToday 411:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/odds/

(09-07-2020 10:39 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Thursday, September 10th:

UAB 1-0 (0-0) @ Miami (FL) 0-0 (0-0) 8PM ACCN UM -14.0
XXXX Missed
MY LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN: Miami 31-17

Saturday, September 12th:

Charlotte 0-0 (0-0) @ App State 0-0 (0-0) NOON ESPN2 App -17.0
MY LINE: App State 35-17 App State is just better but who knows

LaTech 0-0 (0-0) @ Baylor 0-0 (0-0) NOON FOX BU -18.5
PPD

UTSA 0-0 (0-0) @ TXST 0-1 (0-0) 3:30PM ESPN2 TXST -6.5
MY LINE: UTSA 31-28 But who really knows in week 1.

UTEP 0-0 (0-0) @ #14 Texas 0-0 (1-0) 8:00PM LHN UT -42.5
MY LINE: Texas 45-16 I don't see how this isn't a blood bath.

WKU 0-0 (0-0) @ Louisville 0-0 (0-0) 8:00PM ACCN LOU -11.5
MY LINE: Louisville 30-24 But who really knows week 1.

FIU @ UCF and Marshall @ ECU POSTPONED

GOOD LUCK!

Damn...got too much going on and forgot....
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You’re good.
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(09-12-2020 12:41 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Uggh,
ESPN 411:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/sc...e/2/week/2

USAToday 411:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/odds/

(09-07-2020 10:39 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Thursday, September 10th:

UAB 1-0 (0-0) @ Miami (FL) 0-0 (0-0) 8PM ACCN UM -14.0
XXXX Missed
MY LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN: Miami 31-17
REALITY SAID: Miami 31-14 IN line with what i figured.

Saturday, September 12th:

Charlotte 0-0 (0-0) @ App State 0-0 (0-0) NOON ESPN2 App -17.0
MY LINE: App State 35-17 App State is just better but who knows
REALITY SAID: App State 35-20 DAMN CLOSE LOL. Once App State got it in gear though... Charlotte was giving them problems till then IMO.

LaTech 0-0 (0-0) @ Baylor 0-0 (0-0) NOON FOX BU -18.5
PPD

UTSA 0-0 (0-0) @ TXST 0-1 (0-0) 3:30PM ESPN2 TXST -6.5
MY LINE: UTSA 31-28 But who really knows in week 1.
REALITY SAID: UTSA 51-48 2OT 3pt game like I figured.... but the 2 OT added some points to the proceddings.

UTEP 0-0 (0-0) @ #14 Texas 0-0 (1-0) 8:00PM LHN UT -42.5
MY LINE: Texas 45-16 I don't see how this isn't a blood bath.
REALITY SAID: Texas 59-3 LULZ


WKU 0-0 (0-0) @ Louisville 0-0 (0-0) 8:00PM ACCN LOU -11.5
MY LINE: Louisville 30-24 But who really knows week 1.
REALITY SAID: Louisville 35-21 About what I expected.

FIU @ UCF and Marshall @ ECU POSTPONED

GOOD LUCK!

Damn...got too much going on and forgot....

Well I was right....
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(09-16-2020 06:00 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(09-12-2020 12:41 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Uggh,
ESPN 411:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/sc...e/2/week/2

USAToday 411:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/odds/

(09-07-2020 10:39 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Thursday, September 10th:

UAB 1-0 (0-0) @ Miami (FL) 0-0 (0-0) 8PM ACCN UM -14.0
XXXX Missed
MY LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN: Miami 31-17
REALITY SAID: Miami 31-14 IN line with what i figured.

Saturday, September 12th:

Charlotte 0-0 (0-0) @ App State 0-0 (0-0) NOON ESPN2 App -17.0
MY LINE: App State 35-17 App State is just better but who knows
REALITY SAID: App State 35-20 DAMN CLOSE LOL. Once App State got it in gear though... Charlotte was giving them problems till then IMO.

LaTech 0-0 (0-0) @ Baylor 0-0 (0-0) NOON FOX BU -18.5
PPD

UTSA 0-0 (0-0) @ TXST 0-1 (0-0) 3:30PM ESPN2 TXST -6.5
MY LINE: UTSA 31-28 But who really knows in week 1.
REALITY SAID: UTSA 51-48 2OT 3pt game like I figured.... but the 2 OT added some points to the proceddings.

UTEP 0-0 (0-0) @ #14 Texas 0-0 (1-0) 8:00PM LHN UT -42.5
MY LINE: Texas 45-16 I don't see how this isn't a blood bath.
REALITY SAID: Texas 59-3 LULZ


WKU 0-0 (0-0) @ Louisville 0-0 (0-0) 8:00PM ACCN LOU -11.5
MY LINE: Louisville 30-24 But who really knows week 1.
REALITY SAID: Louisville 35-21 About what I expected.

FIU @ UCF and Marshall @ ECU POSTPONED

GOOD LUCK!

Damn...got too much going on and forgot....

Well I was right....

I'm pretty sure I only dinged you for the one game...
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(09-16-2020 06:55 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(09-16-2020 06:00 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(09-12-2020 12:41 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Uggh,
ESPN 411:
https://www.espn.com/college-football/sc...e/2/week/2

USAToday 411:
https://www.usatoday.com/sports/odds/

(09-07-2020 10:39 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Thursday, September 10th:

UAB 1-0 (0-0) @ Miami (FL) 0-0 (0-0) 8PM ACCN UM -14.0
XXXX Missed
MY LINE WOULD HAVE BEEN: Miami 31-17
REALITY SAID: Miami 31-14 IN line with what i figured.

Saturday, September 12th:

Charlotte 0-0 (0-0) @ App State 0-0 (0-0) NOON ESPN2 App -17.0
MY LINE: App State 35-17 App State is just better but who knows
REALITY SAID: App State 35-20 DAMN CLOSE LOL. Once App State got it in gear though... Charlotte was giving them problems till then IMO.

LaTech 0-0 (0-0) @ Baylor 0-0 (0-0) NOON FOX BU -18.5
PPD

UTSA 0-0 (0-0) @ TXST 0-1 (0-0) 3:30PM ESPN2 TXST -6.5
MY LINE: UTSA 31-28 But who really knows in week 1.
REALITY SAID: UTSA 51-48 2OT 3pt game like I figured.... but the 2 OT added some points to the proceddings.

UTEP 0-0 (0-0) @ #14 Texas 0-0 (1-0) 8:00PM LHN UT -42.5
MY LINE: Texas 45-16 I don't see how this isn't a blood bath.
REALITY SAID: Texas 59-3 LULZ


WKU 0-0 (0-0) @ Louisville 0-0 (0-0) 8:00PM ACCN LOU -11.5
MY LINE: Louisville 30-24 But who really knows week 1.
REALITY SAID: Louisville 35-21 About what I expected.

FIU @ UCF and Marshall @ ECU POSTPONED

GOOD LUCK!

Damn...got too much going on and forgot....

Well I was right....

I'm pretty sure I only dinged you for the one game...

I had to eat that UAB Miami game.... 03-banghead
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