Can't use NCAA player likeness or school names like in the video games?

So all 11 students are playing football?

I don't think Knoxville ever had a football team. This is a Clemson game with the wrong teams or a high school team

It can't be a high school team - they were only scrolling college scores (this game is a re-run) when that score popped up. It was an Austin Peay opponent.

Doesn't DavidSt know? He has a collection of all the Ghosts of College Football Past.

(09-20-2020 07:46 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

Based on a scan of the Austin Peay record book (scroll to page 53 for the all-time records against opponents), it appears to be Knoxville College. Peay and KC played twice in the early 90s: 1992 (a 31-7 Peay win) and 1993 (28-19 for Peay's lone win that season). Given the unlikelihood that the Governors scored four points after that screenshot, I'm going to assume it was the 1992 game.

It's not Clemson. The paw isn't at the 1:00 position.

Looks like Savannah State from the late 1990's, except SSU used royal blue face masks.

Video looks too clear to be very old. 1990’s image quality was nowhere near this clear/good.

And I believe Knoxville College was maroon and blue while they were in the NAIA.

I think the score bug has nothing to do with the game, it's just an in-game update in the days before the always-on scoreboard scroller.

I'll stake my many many reputation points that the score's referring to the 1992 game between Austin Peay and Knoxville College. Austin Peay won 31-7, so a fourth-quarter score of 24-7 would fit.

I also think the score doesn't match the game image. Probably what Cyniclone said. And Knoxville was/is the Bulldogs besides.

(09-21-2020 05:40 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I think the score bug has nothing to do with the game, it's just an in-game update in the days before the always-on scoreboard scroller.

I'll stake my many many reputation points that the score's referring to the 1992 game between Austin Peay and Knoxville College. Austin Peay won 31-7, so a fourth-quarter score of 24-7 would fit.

Austin Peay/Knoxville game was played 9/12/92. On that day, No. 15 Clemson hosted No. 5 Florida St in FSU’s inaugural season in the ACC. Prob a Clemson/FSU highlight.

The player in the screen cap is Larry Ryans, a senior WR on the 1992 Clemson team. The game is the Sept 12 meeting between Clemson and Florida St(FSU won 24-20). If you have ESPN+, you still might be able to see the replay.

https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/3656578


edit: C00G beat me to most of it.

Probably posted the Austin Peay vs Knoxville College score during the Clemson FSU game rather than show a Clemson - FSU highlight during an Austin Peay game. Not many games were on TV in 1992, so I doubt any 1AA games were. But good detective work Todor and C00G.

(09-21-2020 11:17 AM)whittx Wrote:  So all 11 students are playing football?

Whoa. So this is what Knoxville looks like today. It went from playing D1 football teams in the 90s to 11 students in 2015 before closing down. (This was the first time I’d seen a team in the score scroller I’d never heard of.)



https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/loca...593204002/

Quote: Knoxville College, a historically black college founded in 1875, lost its national accreditation in 1997 and state accreditation in 2015, when 11 students were enrolled.

The closed its campus in February 2017, after the two remaining buildings in use were deemed unsafe. The Alumni Library had cracks in exterior load-bearing walls and the McMillan Chapel had a leaking roof that led to damaged walls and floors. Additionally, the electrical and plumbing systems in McMillan Chapel were not up to code.

(09-21-2020 06:40 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 11:17 AM)whittx Wrote:  So all 11 students are playing football?

Whoa. So this is what Knoxville looks like today. It went from playing D1 football teams in the 90s to 11 students in 2015 before closing down. (This was the first time I’d seen a team in the score scroller I’d never heard of.)



https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/loca...593204002/

Quote: Knoxville College, a historically black college founded in 1875, lost its national accreditation in 1997 and state accreditation in 2015, when 11 students were enrolled.

The closed its campus in February 2017, after the two remaining buildings in use were deemed unsafe. The Alumni Library had cracks in exterior load-bearing walls and the McMillan Chapel had a leaking roof that led to damaged walls and floors. Additionally, the electrical and plumbing systems in McMillan Chapel were not up to code.

Apparently they're back: https://knoxvillecollege.edu/

No sports though.

Meanwhile, if you can't get enough 1992 Knoxville College football, here's 6+ minutes of a game against Kentucky State. The Thorobreds!

(09-21-2020 08:01 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 06:40 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 11:17 AM)whittx Wrote:  So all 11 students are playing football?

Whoa. So this is what Knoxville looks like today. It went from playing D1 football teams in the 90s to 11 students in 2015 before closing down. (This was the first time I’d seen a team in the score scroller I’d never heard of.)



https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/loca...593204002/

Quote: Knoxville College, a historically black college founded in 1875, lost its national accreditation in 1997 and state accreditation in 2015, when 11 students were enrolled.

The closed its campus in February 2017, after the two remaining buildings in use were deemed unsafe. The Alumni Library had cracks in exterior load-bearing walls and the McMillan Chapel had a leaking roof that led to damaged walls and floors. Additionally, the electrical and plumbing systems in McMillan Chapel were not up to code.

Apparently they're back: https://knoxvillecollege.edu/

No sports though.

Meanwhile, if you can't get enough 1992 Knoxville College football, here's 6+ minutes of a game against Kentucky State. The Thorobreds!

They are one those failing colleges that doesn’t quite die when they close. Morris Brown, Barber-Scotia, Selma University and Shorter Jr College (Arkansas, not Georgia) are some others.

What happens is, they still have a small administrative staff and an active board and sometimes go without any real college students for a number of years before trying to reboot again later. Typically the schools close after losing accreditation, therefor access to federal financial aid. But they aren’t bankrupt, probably don’t have much if any debt, usually have a somewhat active and dedicated alumni group and are able to at least keep a small staff to fund raise and maintain the campus as best they can. It’s fun to watch them develop over the years.

One school in Missouri, (where Marco Rubio played football for a year, incidentally) called Tarkio College closed and went bankrupt in 1991. Because a non profit alumni type group owned most of the campus, it could not be sold off in the bankruptcy.

They leased it to a youth home for boys for about a decade or so and made at least 4-5 serious attempts either reopen it themselves or sell the campus to a group who wanted to open it. So this alumni group with a campus in a town of 1,500 in rural Missouri actually pulled it off and reopened the college as a technical college, at least at first that is offering trade programs in areas that are needed locally.

The fact that the alumni of that closed college actually managed to reopen (albeit in a new format) 30 years after it closed is just an amazing show of loyalty and dedication to the original Tarkio College. Whether it succeeds long term is yet to be seen, but what an inspiring story. And many of these other colleges have fiercely loyal alums who also just refuse to let their college go down like so many others have.

Ok, I’ve written a book and I’m probably way off topic, but hey...

Todor, I enjoyed reading that, thanks for sharing.

(09-21-2020 06:29 PM)Hammersmith Wrote:  The player in the screen cap is Larry Ryans, a senior WR on the 1992 Clemson team. The game is the Sept 12 meeting between Clemson and Florida St(FSU won 24-20). If you have ESPN+, you still might be able to see the replay.

https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/3656578


edit: C00G beat me to most of it.

The problem with this is that the Cleveland Browns did not play the Bengals in Week 2 that year as the scroll suggests. They didn't meet until November. For that matter, I can't find any year going back to 1975 in which the Browns beat the Bengals 35-30 in Week 2. So it's entirely possible this whole image is doctored. Why, I have no idea.

(09-22-2020 10:34 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 06:29 PM)Hammersmith Wrote:  The player in the screen cap is Larry Ryans, a senior WR on the 1992 Clemson team. The game is the Sept 12 meeting between Clemson and Florida St(FSU won 24-20). If you have ESPN+, you still might be able to see the replay.

https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/3656578


edit: C00G beat me to most of it.

The problem with this is that the Cleveland Browns did not play the Bengals in Week 2 that year as the scroll suggests. They didn't meet until November. For that matter, I can't find any year going back to 1975 in which the Browns beat the Bengals 35-30 in Week 2. So it's entirely possible this whole image is doctored. Why, I have no idea.

Browns 35, Bengals 30 in Week 2 just happened this past Thursday. Was this historic game aired recently, with the bottom scroll being new and the box score being old?

(09-22-2020 11:37 AM)CenterSquarEd Wrote:  

(09-22-2020 10:34 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-21-2020 06:29 PM)Hammersmith Wrote:  The player in the screen cap is Larry Ryans, a senior WR on the 1992 Clemson team. The game is the Sept 12 meeting between Clemson and Florida St(FSU won 24-20). If you have ESPN+, you still might be able to see the replay.

https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/3656578


edit: C00G beat me to most of it.

The problem with this is that the Cleveland Browns did not play the Bengals in Week 2 that year as the scroll suggests. They didn't meet until November. For that matter, I can't find any year going back to 1975 in which the Browns beat the Bengals 35-30 in Week 2. So it's entirely possible this whole image is doctored. Why, I have no idea.

Browns 35, Bengals 30 in Week 2 just happened this past Thursday. Was this historic game aired recently, with the bottom scroll being new and the box score being old?

It had to have been re-aired around last Friday. Not only was Browns-Bengals the Thursday night game, but Saints-Raiders was the Monday night game, and the ad for it shows up in the ticker.