(10-13-2020 01:23 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 12:41 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(10-11-2020 10:48 PM)Bill Wrote:  The Who death rate is now 0.13%. The flu kills 0.1%, pretty similar rates. The CDC said their co-morbidity rate is 94%, so if 200,000 have had a 'Covid related death', 188,000 died WITH Covid, and 12,000 died FROM Covid and nothing else. It seems like there are a lot of people dying of Covid because they're not dying of dementia, cancer, diabetes, flu, heart disease, lung disease, kidney failure, or just old age, the things that normally would be their cause of death. The bottom line is 98% of the people who catch it suffer nothing more than a few rough days with flu like symptoms. Is it real? Sure it is. So is the flu.

That's, uh, not how comorbidities work. Plus the US has a huge population of people with potential comorbidities, making it especially dangerous for the US specifically.

Let me rephrase that for you so you can better understand. According to the CDC, only 6% of those who died WITH Covid were deemed "healthy" by the CDC. And let us not forget, in America, a corpse does NOT have to be tested for the presence of Covid, guesses are just fine with the CDC. Other countries call that medical fraud, but 'it is what it is' here in the good ole US of A. Birx said early on that they would be using very liberal methods to calculate their totals and she is being true to her word.

Yep! All absolutely correct. Add to those facts that hospitals and docs are being given bonuses of $13,000 for every patient diagnosed with COVID (no test necessary), and an additional $39,000 when those patients are intubated (put on ventilators). I see no cause for concern here, do you?

(10-13-2020 03:26 PM)Bill Wrote:  Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies stated that the WHO believes that roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.
7,800,000,000 people, times
10% infected =
780,000,000 infections, divided by number of deaths,
1,050,000, and you get
0.13%,

which is pretty much the same as the flu. Now, back in March, this very same WHO told the world to get ready for an eye popping 3.4% death rate, creating a panic induced global meltdown. Back in March, President Donald J Trump was asked about the death rate. He said the WHO was using "false numbers" and the death rate is “way under 1%.” He was mocked for it by the media and Democrats/liberals, but last time I checked, 0.13% is way under 1%.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCameronNYT/stat...3585394689

Shhhhh! Don't wake them. They will only get mad and call you crazy.

wow I'm glad this is in the OT section.

DukeDogNation - I appreciate your points you bring to the board. They're always well researched.

(10-13-2020 11:31 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  wow I'm glad this is in the OT section.

DukeDogNation - I appreciate your points you bring to the board. They're always well researched.

I've quoted direct sources from the CDC and the WHO. I'm not using Fox News, CNN, or any news media, I'm using the WHO's stats, the CDC's stats, direct quotes from their representatives. It is their stats that prove Covid is no deadlier than the flu, not my opinions.

The fact that the CDC chose to implement new reporting rules for Covid then they've used before is legitimately questionable. If one applies the CDC's H1N1 reporting rules to Covid, there'd be 12,500 Covid deaths, roughly the same as H1N1. So why do we have 210,000 dead? Well, I will let Dr. Birx herself explain why that number is so high:

Dr Birx: "There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies ***WITH*** COVID-19 we are counting that ***AS*** a COVID-19 death."

So what do we wind up with? A disproportionately high percentage of the planet's Covid deaths for some weird reason. Whose fault is that? Why it's President Donald J Trump's, of course. The CDC, in my opinion, is committing medical fraud.

The CDC is a very liberal (left wing) department of our government, look at who they support in politics, their employees have donated over $285,000 to Democrats and only $1,000 to Republicans in the last 4 years. There is political bias at the CDC, for sure.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-democrats

(10-14-2020 03:15 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 11:31 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  wow I'm glad this is in the OT section.

DukeDogNation - I appreciate your points you bring to the board. They're always well researched.

I've quoted direct sources from the CDC and the WHO. I'm not using Fox News, CNN, or any news media, I'm using the WHO's stats, the CDC's stats, direct quotes from their representatives. It is their stats that prove Covid is no deadlier than the flu, not my opinions.

The fact that the CDC chose to implement new reporting rules for Covid then they've used before is legitimately questionable. If one applies the CDC's H1N1 reporting rules to Covid, there'd be 12,500 Covid deaths, roughly the same as H1N1. So why do we have 210,000 dead? Well, I will let Dr. Birx herself explain why that number is so high:

Dr Birx: "There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies ***WITH*** COVID-19 we are counting that ***AS*** a COVID-19 death."

So what do we wind up with? A disproportionately high percentage of the planet's Covid deaths for some weird reason. Whose fault is that? Why it's President Donald J Trump's, of course. The CDC, in my opinion, is committing medical fraud.

The CDC is a very liberal (left wing) department of our government, look at who they support in politics, their employees have donated over $285,000 to Democrats and only $1,000 to Republicans in the last 4 years. There is political bias at the CDC, for sure.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-democrats

Science is hella left wing.

(10-14-2020 03:15 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 11:31 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  wow I'm glad this is in the OT section.

DukeDogNation - I appreciate your points you bring to the board. They're always well researched.

I've quoted direct sources from the CDC and the WHO. I'm not using Fox News, CNN, or any news media, I'm using the WHO's stats, the CDC's stats, direct quotes from their representatives. It is their stats that prove Covid is no deadlier than the flu, not my opinions.

The fact that the CDC chose to implement new reporting rules for Covid then they've used before is legitimately questionable. If one applies the CDC's H1N1 reporting rules to Covid, there'd be 12,500 Covid deaths, roughly the same as H1N1. So why do we have 210,000 dead? Well, I will let Dr. Birx herself explain why that number is so high:

Dr Birx: "There are other countries that if you had a preexisting condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem some countries are recording as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now we are still recording it and we will I mean the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID-19 infection the intent is right now that those if someone dies ***WITH*** COVID-19 we are counting that ***AS*** a COVID-19 death."

So what do we wind up with? A disproportionately high percentage of the planet's Covid deaths for some weird reason. Whose fault is that? Why it's President Donald J Trump's, of course. The CDC, in my opinion, is committing medical fraud.

The CDC is a very liberal (left wing) department of our government, look at who they support in politics, their employees have donated over $285,000 to Democrats and only $1,000 to Republicans in the last 4 years. There is political bias at the CDC, for sure.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/...-democrats

Shhhh. Don't wake them up. It will do no good. When blind people wake up, their world is still dark. They simply cannot see the light.

Dukester - you've been pretty outspoken that you think America has been one of the worst - if not the single worst - countries in terms of response to COVID, including saying it would have been so easy to prevent the vast majority of cases and deaths if everyone just wore a mask and maintained distance. With per capita European cases in almost every country we could name currently blowing USA out of the water, do you still feel this way?

(10-13-2020 07:09 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 01:23 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 12:41 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(10-11-2020 10:48 PM)Bill Wrote:  The Who death rate is now 0.13%. The flu kills 0.1%, pretty similar rates. The CDC said their co-morbidity rate is 94%, so if 200,000 have had a 'Covid related death', 188,000 died WITH Covid, and 12,000 died FROM Covid and nothing else. It seems like there are a lot of people dying of Covid because they're not dying of dementia, cancer, diabetes, flu, heart disease, lung disease, kidney failure, or just old age, the things that normally would be their cause of death. The bottom line is 98% of the people who catch it suffer nothing more than a few rough days with flu like symptoms. Is it real? Sure it is. So is the flu.

That's, uh, not how comorbidities work. Plus the US has a huge population of people with potential comorbidities, making it especially dangerous for the US specifically.

Let me rephrase that for you so you can better understand. According to the CDC, only 6% of those who died WITH Covid were deemed "healthy" by the CDC. And let us not forget, in America, a corpse does NOT have to be tested for the presence of Covid, guesses are just fine with the CDC. Other countries call that medical fraud, but 'it is what it is' here in the good ole US of A. Birx said early on that they would be using very liberal methods to calculate their totals and she is being true to her word.

Yep! All absolutely correct. Add to those facts that hospitals and docs are being given bonuses of $13,000 for every patient diagnosed with COVID (no test necessary), and an additional $39,000 when those patients are intubated (put on ventilators). I see no cause for concern here, do you?

Information source please?

(10-27-2020 12:36 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:09 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 01:23 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 12:41 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(10-11-2020 10:48 PM)Bill Wrote:  The Who death rate is now 0.13%. The flu kills 0.1%, pretty similar rates. The CDC said their co-morbidity rate is 94%, so if 200,000 have had a 'Covid related death', 188,000 died WITH Covid, and 12,000 died FROM Covid and nothing else. It seems like there are a lot of people dying of Covid because they're not dying of dementia, cancer, diabetes, flu, heart disease, lung disease, kidney failure, or just old age, the things that normally would be their cause of death. The bottom line is 98% of the people who catch it suffer nothing more than a few rough days with flu like symptoms. Is it real? Sure it is. So is the flu.

That's, uh, not how comorbidities work. Plus the US has a huge population of people with potential comorbidities, making it especially dangerous for the US specifically.

Let me rephrase that for you so you can better understand. According to the CDC, only 6% of those who died WITH Covid were deemed "healthy" by the CDC. And let us not forget, in America, a corpse does NOT have to be tested for the presence of Covid, guesses are just fine with the CDC. Other countries call that medical fraud, but 'it is what it is' here in the good ole US of A. Birx said early on that they would be using very liberal methods to calculate their totals and she is being true to her word.

Yep! All absolutely correct. Add to those facts that hospitals and docs are being given bonuses of $13,000 for every patient diagnosed with COVID (no test necessary), and an additional $39,000 when those patients are intubated (put on ventilators). I see no cause for concern here, do you?

Information source please?

You’ll not receive a legit “source” from P. The idea “bonuses” are driving COVID numbers is complete hogwash. At this point in time Mr. Trump and his followers are desperate to explain why the number of reported COVID cases and hospitalizations are exploding, hence the suggestion hospitals are doing it for $$$. This suggestion is an insult to all the health professionals working to treat and save COVID patients.

There once was a time when science and facts were the bedrock upon which U.S. policy decisions were made. Perhaps we will see a return to common sense and reality after Nov. 3rd.

(10-27-2020 12:36 PM)LovethoseDukes Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 07:09 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 01:23 PM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 12:41 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  

(10-11-2020 10:48 PM)Bill Wrote:  The Who death rate is now 0.13%. The flu kills 0.1%, pretty similar rates. The CDC said their co-morbidity rate is 94%, so if 200,000 have had a 'Covid related death', 188,000 died WITH Covid, and 12,000 died FROM Covid and nothing else. It seems like there are a lot of people dying of Covid because they're not dying of dementia, cancer, diabetes, flu, heart disease, lung disease, kidney failure, or just old age, the things that normally would be their cause of death. The bottom line is 98% of the people who catch it suffer nothing more than a few rough days with flu like symptoms. Is it real? Sure it is. So is the flu.

That's, uh, not how comorbidities work. Plus the US has a huge population of people with potential comorbidities, making it especially dangerous for the US specifically.

Let me rephrase that for you so you can better understand. According to the CDC, only 6% of those who died WITH Covid were deemed "healthy" by the CDC. And let us not forget, in America, a corpse does NOT have to be tested for the presence of Covid, guesses are just fine with the CDC. Other countries call that medical fraud, but 'it is what it is' here in the good ole US of A. Birx said early on that they would be using very liberal methods to calculate their totals and she is being true to her word.

Yep! All absolutely correct. Add to those facts that hospitals and docs are being given bonuses of $13,000 for every patient diagnosed with COVID (no test necessary), and an additional $39,000 when those patients are intubated (put on ventilators). I see no cause for concern here, do you?

Information source please?

There are many. Without question, Medicare is paying bonus money for COVID admissions and another bonus for intubation. While the exact amount of the bonus money that is being paid may vary, the figures I have heard mentioned most frequently are $13K and $39K. There are many docs corroborating this claim. Here is the worst part.... NO COVID TEST IS NECESSARY! A doc can presume COVID for whatever reason he or she wants, or no reason. No chance of corruption there at all, right?.... Cash for COVID

NYC COVID fraud

(11-02-2020 09:23 AM)Purple Wrote:  NYC COVID fraud

Did you just link a piece that you wrote?

(11-02-2020 09:59 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(11-02-2020 09:23 AM)Purple Wrote:  NYC COVID fraud

Did you just link a piece that you wrote?

No. I wrote only a two-sentence intro to an article by Jon Rappoport and video interview of Erin Olszewski by investigative journalist John Kirby. I was asked to provide links. I provided links. There are many more.

Thankfully know that Nov 3 is passed, this world wide hoax can be over.

Lol, crisis averted.

Fauci was right. We're over 110,000 new cases and over 1,100 deaths a day. Hoping fatalities don't balloon up on the back side of the rising cases, but know that is likely the case.

Cases of what? The flu? Covid’s over because the election is over.

(11-06-2020 10:38 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Cases of what? The flu? Covid’s over because the election is over.

Are you sure it's over?