Quote:WASHINGTON, D.C.—A dangerous conspiracy theorist based in Washington doesn't believe vaccines work, concerned sources reported Tuesday. He spouted his deadly rhetoric in a speech today, going on about how even if Americans get two doses of the vaccine, they should keep triple-masking, avoid going outside, and stay in their homes and die alone.

Reports indicate that the conspiracy theorist isn't just a no-name cult leader on YouTube or something, but is incredibly popular, with millions of people hanging on his every word.

"It's really scary how many people are listening to this dangerous, anti-science conspiracy theorist," said one scientist. "We're trying to get people to get vaccinated, and this guy comes along and starts spewing his nonsense about how vaccinated people could still get the virus and so can't go to theatres, baseball games, or restaurants for at least a year or two. He's really harming public discourse on the issue."

"Dangerous, extremist, fringe rhetoric like this is really harmful to our efforts to vaccinate a large portion of the population and get back to normal. Be really careful of wackos like this guy."

What's more, the conspiracy theory-pushing extremist is clearly a grifter, as images surfaced of him going to a baseball game and taking his mask off throughout last year.

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Quote:President Joe Biden's top health adviser and coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said on Monday that even people who receive a coronavirus vaccine won't be able to go out to eat or go to the movies because of "the safety of society."

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Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, spoke at a White House press briefing via teleconference with the administration's COVID-19 response team during which a reporter asked about the messaging around vaccines.

"There's a lot of conversation about how you need to keep doing the same things even after you get vaccinated — you know, like wearing a mask, not seeing your family, things like that. Do you think that's preventing people from being more enthusiastic about getting vaccines? And may we see that change in the future?" Los Angeles Times reporter Chris Megerian asked.

Fauci answered that there are several things even vaccinated people will not be able to do as long as there is a high rate of coronavirus in the U.S.

This week, the U.S. death toll from the coronavirus topped 500,000. According to NBC News, more than 28,206,600 cases have been confirmed in the U.S. Though the average number of daily new cases is in decline, Facui warned that "the burden of virus in society will be very high, which it is right now."

"So there are things, even if you're vaccinated, that you're not going to be able to do in society: for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate," Fauci said.

"That's because of the safety of society. You, yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that, and we're going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do," he added.

Fauci explained that health experts do not know whether a vaccinated person, though he may be protected from symptoms of disease, could still carry the coronavirus in the back of their nasal cavity at a contagious level. That is why he and other health experts recommend that vaccinated people continue to wear masks, to prevent potential spread of the virus to others.

He said that researchers hope to find that the virus level is "quite low and you're not transmitting it," but clarified "we don't know that now. And for that reason, we want to make sure that people continue to wear masks despite the fact that they're vaccinated."

Fauci has come under fire from critics for sending "mixed messages" about COVID-19, masks, vaccines, and when the country can return to normal.

As Fox News recounted, previously Fauci said that about 70% of Americans need to be vaccinated before the U.S. can reach herd immunity to the virus, before adjusting that number to 80%. He claimed that he revised the number after taking into account public opinion surveys.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75%," Fauci told the New York Times. "Then, when newer surveys said 60% or more would take it, I thought, 'I can nudge this up a bit,' so I went to 80, 85."

"We have to have some humility here," he added. "We really don't know what the real number is. I think the real range is somewhere between 70 to 90%. But, I'm not going to say 90%."

Last August, Fauci said that Americans could begin to return to normal when as few as 50% to 60% of people were vaccinated. But in November, he told CNN that public health measures should remain in place because there's no way of knowing how effective the vaccines are, even if they report an effectiveness of 90%-95% in studies. Then just last Sunday on CNN, Fauci said Americans should continue wearing masks in public into 2022.

In that same interview, Fauci would not tell CNN's Dana Bash if grandparents who have received the vaccine will be able to spend time with their grandchildren.

"You know I'm not going to make a recommendations except to say, these are things that we really do everyday, Dana," he said.

"We look at that, we look at the data, we look at what's evolving about how many people are getting vaccinated and there will be recommendations coming out, I don't want to make a recommendation now on public TV."

This messaging stands in stark contrast to other countries, like Israel, where the people are being told that getting the vaccine means you can return to normal life immediately.

As The Guardian reported:

Israel is preparing itself to be split in half from next week, with the government creating a new privileged tier in society: the vaccinated.

Nearly 50% of the population who have chosen to be inoculated against Covid will be provided with a "green pass" a week after their second shot, as will those with presumed immunity after contracting the disease.

From Sunday, the pass will grant access to gyms, hotels, swimming pools, concerts, and places of worship. Restaurants and bars will be included from early March.

For the rest, including children under 16 who are not eligible for coronavirus shots, many of the activities shut down during the year-long crisis will remain off-limits, although some will be available if they provide a negative coronavirus test.
Meanwhile in the U.S., top health experts tell a different story. Following Fauci's comments, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Dr. Rochelle Walensky added that the benefit of receiving both doses of the coronavirus vaccine is that "there is no longer a need to quarantine after you've been exposed."

She promised that additional guidance regarding what vaccinated people can and cannot do would be forthcoming.

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Actually not a lot of space between article on and article two, only two uses his actual name.

BUT MUH FOLLOWED SCIENCE!

It was explained to my wife when she got it that the vaccine does not necessarily prevent spread, it just lessens the symptoms if you get it.

Personally, nobody can know with something that was developed this quickly. When are doing the end trials right now to find out things like how long it will protect you and does it lower or prevent spread.

(02-23-2021 05:21 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Actually not a lot of space between article on and article two, only two uses his actual name.

BUT MUH FOLLOWED SCIENCE!

The Babylon Bee gets more accurate everyday.

(02-23-2021 05:25 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 05:21 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Actually not a lot of space between article on and article two, only two uses his actual name.

BUT MUH FOLLOWED SCIENCE!

The Babylon Bee gets more accurate everyday.

It's sad but true commentary when the Bee is more honest and accurate than what passes for "real" journalism today, particularly CNN and their "fiery but mostly peaceful" protests.

(02-23-2021 05:24 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  It was explained to my wife when she got it that the vaccine does not necessarily prevent spread, it just lessens the symptoms if you get it.

Personally, nobody can know with something that was developed this quickly. When are doing the end trials right now to find out things like how long it will protect you and does it lower or prevent spread.

Not what a "vaccine" does or is.

I'm gonna make sure my loved ones or I don't have to respond to one of those class action attorney commercials in 5-10 years for those that had problems from taking the "vaccine ".

(02-24-2021 02:36 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I'm gonna make sure my loved ones or I don't have to respond to one of those class action attorney commercials in 5-10 years for those that had problems from taking the "vaccine ".

A little known fact: vaccine manufacturers bear no liability in the event they hurt or kill you. Instead, claims come from a government trust which in the case of Covid is limited to $50k (even if someone dies). Since it is nearly impossible to prove causation, few get payouts.

We don't allow any other consumer products industries to have no legal liability if they hurt or kill us, but for some reason we let vaccine makers get away with this. I personally don't trust the manufacturer of anything to make a totally safe product if there isn't even the potential threat of a lawsuit. There is no incentive to make something safer as opposed to cheaper.