I wouldn't trust that garbage if you swore allegiance that it was true. "Fox News", isn't News. Even the people that work there tell you that. They spew nothing but alt right opinion pieces and lie to their audience face, and even tell you that. They spew anti vax crap even though every single one of them are vaccinated, it was mandated they all be so.
Until you can show me other proof, with hard facts, not from Fox, The Hill or any other right wing print mill. Hell Id believe The Onion of those places.
Just go on viewing nothing but your beloved and trusted left wing news outlets. It's a free country. They will always give you the exact kind of truth that you are wanting to see and hear.
It has nothing to do with right or left. This source provided an article that does not correspond to the video it purports to describe! This source deceives everyone, right or left. And you need not be right-leaning or left-leaning individual to realize that, if you're intellectually honest.
If you're intellectually honest you wouldn't be harping about what's on the video as your claim that it is an opinion piece. Your first response to my posting of the 2 links came just 1 minute after my post. The video is 25+ minutes long. You didn't have nearly enough time to watch the video yourself before making your false claim.
Second, the Fox News link did have an exact screen shot from the video (slide 14 of the video) showing how White Males, 30-50, Christians, etc. are labeled as "oppressors". There was noting opinionated about the article. If you watched the video of the two girls from JMU talking, you missed a lot of data that you are now incorrectly speaking out about.
I wouldn't trust that garbage if you swore allegiance that it was true. "Fox News", isn't News. Even the people that work there tell you that. They spew nothing but alt right opinion pieces and lie to their audience face, and even tell you that. They spew anti vax crap even though every single one of them are vaccinated, it was mandated they all be so.
Until you can show me other proof, with hard facts, not from Fox, The Hill or any other right wing print mill. Hell Id believe The Onion of those places.
Just go on viewing nothing but your beloved and trusted left wing news outlets. It's a free country. They will always give you the exact kind of truth that you are wanting to see and hear.
It has nothing to do with right or left. This source provided an article that does not correspond to the video it purports to describe! This source deceives everyone, right or left. And you need not be right-leaning or left-leaning individual to realize that, if you're intellectually honest.
If you're intellectually honest you wouldn't be harping about what's on the video as your claim that it is an opinion piece. Your first response to my posting of the 2 links came just 1 minute after my post. The video is 25+ minutes long. You didn't have nearly enough time to watch the video yourself before making your false claim.
Second, the Fox News link did have an exact screen shot from the video (slide 14 of the video) showing how White Males, 30-50, Christians, etc. are labeled as "oppressors". There was noting opinionated about the article. If you watched the video of the two girls from JMU talking, you missed a lot of data that you are now incorrectly speaking out about.
This video has gotten a lot of play since JULY!!! I have seen it two weeks ago. Just because you came across it (no doubt) due to this deceptive article doesn't mean everyone did too.
Secondly, the actual video they are linking to DOES NOT call white males "oppressors". It states that white males enjoy privilege. Which is true and most Americans agree with that statement (according to every poll since about 2010).
So, to conclude - the article is deceptive, because it lies about the video. Secondly, it misinforms the readers about a concept that video does not include. And, thirdly, it is not even the most important point of the video.
(This post was last modified: 08-19-2021 10:59 PM by goliath74.)
(08-19-2021 11:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote: Furthermore, here's the slide you're talking about. So, tell me, where are white men named as "oppressors"?
Do you honestly not understand what the headings "Privileged" (Agent) and "Oppressed" (Target) mean on those charts? The left column is clearly the Oppressor in their discussion, and the right column is clearly labeled as the Oppressed.
You have to look at both slides (14 & 15) to get the whole list which includes Race/White on slide 15. They list them under the "Privileged" (Agent) column with other races in the adjacent "Oppressed" (Target) column. "Man" or males was similarly listed under the "Privileged" (Agent) column on slide 14. It's all there plain as day to see.
(08-19-2021 08:46 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: I can’t say anything, Marshall has went extremely liberal over the last 5 years or so. It’s one of the reasons I stopped donating to the actual University.
These are also all reasons why Liberty is my 2nd favorite team and to be honest, if Marshall goes much further down the liberal path then I will completely stop supporting them and give all of my support to Liberty.
MU has always been on the Liberal side. When I was there in the Mid-Late 90's. Out of the three Colleges and Universities, I have done Undergraduate work at. MU by far was the most Liberal.
(08-19-2021 11:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote: Furthermore, here's the slide you're talking about. So, tell me, where are white men named as "oppressors"?
Do you honestly not understand what the headings "Privileged" (Agent) and "Oppressed" (Target) mean on those charts? The left column is clearly the Oppressor in their discussion, and the right column is clearly labeled as the Oppressed.
You have to look at both slides (14 & 15) to get the whole list which includes Race/White on slide 15. They list them under the "Privileged" (Agent) column with other races in the adjacent "Oppressed" (Target) column. "Man" or males was similarly listed under the "Privileged" (Agent) column on slide 14. It's all there plain as day to see.
You do realize that "Privileged" has a totally DIFFERENT and INCOMPATIBLE meaning from "Oppressor"? "Privileged" is a passive meaning, a person who benefits, and an "Oppressor" is an active participant who perpetrates and/or perpetuates the condition? If you do not understand the difference, you need to take English.
To wit, German citizens during the Third Reich, who were helping Jewish families to hide, were, certainly, not the oppressors, but they were, clearly privileged due to their
Volksdeutsche status. Still don't understand?
This is plain as day! If you do not understand that, you are not only intellectually dishonest, you are linguistically deficient!
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2021 06:26 AM by goliath74.)
(08-19-2021 11:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote: Furthermore, here's the slide you're talking about. So, tell me, where are white men named as "oppressors"?
Do you honestly not understand what the headings "Privileged" (Agent) and "Oppressed" (Target) mean on those charts? The left column is clearly the Oppressor in their discussion, and the right column is clearly labeled as the Oppressed.
You have to look at both slides (14 & 15) to get the whole list which includes Race/White on slide 15. They list them under the "Privileged" (Agent) column with other races in the adjacent "Oppressed" (Target) column. "Man" or males was similarly listed under the "Privileged" (Agent) column on slide 14. It's all there plain as day to see.
You do realize that "Privileged" has a totally DIFFERENT and INCOMPATIBLE meaning from "Oppressor"? "Privileged" is a passive meaning, a person who benefits, and an "Oppressor" is an active participant who perpetrates and/or perpetuates the condition? If you do not understand the difference, you need to take English.
To wit, German citizens during the Third Reich, who were helping Jewish families to hide, were, certainly, not the oppressors, but they were, clearly privileged due to their
Volksdeutsche status. Still don't understand?
This is plain as day! If you do not understand that, you are not only intellectually dishonest, you are linguistically deficient!
FOUL! FOUL! I call FOUL! 5 syllable words are not allowed in message board arguments
To all you anti-James Madison and pro-Liberty dudes; y'all lost me at "FOX". They are never a credible source. But, they are a helluva-right wing wacko propaganda machine. How about not taking either one of these universities? There will be lots of time to discuss expansion and reorganization after the B12 implodes! Instead, let's play some football.
(08-19-2021 06:09 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote: James Madison University trains students that Christians, White males are 'oppressors'
Soooo, you can cross them off any conference re-alignment, put it under the same category as Liberty but for different reasons.
If they can play football real good then they're good. When does the Sun Belt send them an invite? Gotta aspire to be in a better conference than CUSA.
(08-19-2021 08:30 PM)goliath74 Wrote: You will see that the Fox Noise is up to their tricks.
Looks like G-74 is more upset with the source than the content. His words give away his bias.
Doesn't look or read like an opinion piece to me, so I guess he is convinced it is all lies made up out of whole cloth. Hard to argue with faith like that, so I won't try.
I presume JMU will be suing FoxNews if these are really lies, so let me know when the suit is filed.
(08-19-2021 11:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote: Furthermore, here's the slide you're talking about. So, tell me, where are white men named as "oppressors"?
Do you honestly not understand what the headings "Privileged" (Agent) and "Oppressed" (Target) mean on those charts? The left column is clearly the Oppressor in their discussion, and the right column is clearly labeled as the Oppressed.
You have to look at both slides (14 & 15) to get the whole list which includes Race/White on slide 15. They list them under the "Privileged" (Agent) column with other races in the adjacent "Oppressed" (Target) column. "Man" or males was similarly listed under the "Privileged" (Agent) column on slide 14. It's all there plain as day to see.
WTF? You mean, we've all been arguing with a guy (G74) that can't read? Oh crap!
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2021 08:12 AM by HogDawg.)
This thread is freaking hilarious. All of y'all worried about Christian white males being oppressed really have the most fragile of egos. Get over yourselves.
(08-20-2021 07:27 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: To all you anti-James Madison and pro-Liberty dudes; y'all lost me at "FOX". They are never a credible source. But, they are a helluva-right wing wacko propaganda machine. How about not taking either one of these universities? There will be lots of time to discuss expansion and reorganization after the B12 implodes! Instead, let's play some football.
That's what you get from some of the Faux Noise audience. They are either intellectually dishonest or can't comprehend written word. Otherwise it is hard to imagine why anyone would accept Faux Noise drivel
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2021 08:22 AM by goliath74.)
(08-19-2021 06:09 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote: James Madison University trains students that Christians, White males are 'oppressors'
Soooo, you can cross them off any conference re-alignment, put it under the same category as Liberty but for different reasons.
If they can play football real good then they're good. When does the Sun Belt send them an invite? Gotta aspire to be in a better conference than CUSA.
Here's the play: CUSA should sponsor a "Play-In" game........JMU vs Liberty, for a spot in CUSA. Winner takes all and loser goes home.
(08-19-2021 06:38 PM)MUther Wrote: Hey, I'm a Christian, White male. Historically, as a demographic, we've done some pretty awful stuff to a lot of different groups of people. But what they should be teaching people is to treat everyone as an individual and not to condemn a person based on their demographic. Because that is exactly what they're asking us not to do. Every single one of them.
PS Their school is named after a White, Christian male that was probably a slave owner. Maybe they should change their name to Dolly Madison since they're all cupcakes.
To be fair. All civilizations have done some pretty awful stuff to a lot of different groups of people. This is not a "white men" exclusive thing. Human beings are inherently flawed but its only convenient to blame all the worlds woes on white people which is racist and bigoted. I pray for the day that we can look past race and look at the person. Stereotyping anyone based of race is the start of something far more dangerous.
(08-20-2021 08:18 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: This thread is freaking hilarious. All of y'all worried about Christian white males being oppressed really have the most fragile of egos. Get over yourselves.
I think you need to pull your head out of your rectum and try to get over your own issues. The only fragile ego I see is you. Your comment adds nothing to the conversation but insults.
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