FiveThirtyEight notes that we have the most losses in the AP Top 25 in years at this point in the season. Not only that, but more advanced metrics point to this being the weakest Top 25 of the playoff era (excepting the COVID year).

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/col...for-grabs/

2007 was marked by an exceptional level of turnover at the top of the rankings. Each of the top teams has shown vulnerability. Could we be headed to another 2007-type season?

EDIT: I've got a simulation machine. What is a good way to measure "chaos" in a given season?

2007 was the greatest college football season of my lifetime. Alabama is too powerful for us to get a true 2007 but Ohio St/Clemson losing early is a good start.

(09-23-2021 11:08 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  2007 was the greatest college football season of my lifetime. Alabama is too powerful for us to get a true 2007 but Ohio St/Clemson losing early is a good start.

2007 was the worst football season I have ever experienced.

(09-23-2021 11:03 AM)Crayton Wrote:  FiveThirtyEight notes that we have the most losses in the AP Top 25 in years at this point in the season. Not only that, but more advanced metrics point to this being the weakest Top 25 of the playoff era (excepting the COVID year).

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/col...for-grabs/

2007 was marked by an exceptional level of turnover at the top of the rankings. Each of the top teams has shown vulnerability. Could we be headed to another 2007-type season?

EDIT: I've got a simulation machine. What is a good way to measure "chaos" in a given season?

The main driver of this is likely the COVID year we just had. With available rosters being a crapshoot, and less OOC games than ever, it was extremely difficult to gauge who was actually good(still friggin Alabama), and who benefitted from only playing a soft conference-only schedule (UNC, Miami), who may have looked good due to weakened big name opponents (Louisiana, maybe Coastal Carolina in 2-3 weeks), who was recycled into the mix just because of their name (USC), and who looked down last year and is actually quite good (SDSU, Michigan).

I loved 2007. Every week was a shakeup.

Schools that made the BCS Top 10 that season: Arizona St, Boston College, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Kentucky, LSU, Missouri, Ohio St, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Florida, USC, Virginia Tech, West Virginia.

Schools ranked #2 (AP) lost 7 times in the final 9 weeks - #2 (opponent): USC (Stanford), California (Oregon St), South Florida (Rutgers), Boston College (Florida St), Oregon (Arizona), Kansas (Missouri), West Virginia (Pittsburgh).

3 weeks saw both the #1 and #2 ranked schools (AP) lose:
October 13 - #1 LSU (Kentucky), #2 California (Oregon St)
November 24 - #1 LSU (Arkansas), #2 Kansas (#4 Missouri)
December 1 - #1 Missouri (#9 Oklahoma), #2 West Virginia (Pittsburgh)

Both of LSU's losses came as the #1 school (AP) and both occurred in games that went into 3OT.

The early/mid 2000’s were not fun times for us Heel (football) fans. A team with Darian Durant and Willie Parker won 3 and 2 games, for example. Thanks Bunting. but then…..HE BEAT MIAMI!!!!! Oh gooood lawd he beat Miami!! Contract extension on its way. Little did everyone know Miami was beginning their trek into irrelevancy.

2007 was Butch’s first season so that was something. I liked 2005 overall as a season even though Carolina stunk and Louisville put up basketball numbers.

I thought the week 1 slot of games was one of the strongest ever for week 1. In the Big Ten alone, you had

OSU-Minn
PSY-Wisc
INDY-Iowa
MSU-NW
MD-WV
Pur-OrSt

Followed up in week 2 with Iowa-ISU, OhSt-Ore, Mich- Wash

Instead of teams starting out playing 3 cupcakes the first 3 weeks, ranked teams are playing ranked teams. Conference teams are playing each other.

Of course you are going to have more ranked teams lose.

Interestingly, this has thus far been entirely a P5 phenomenon.

9 of the 10 teams that have been knocked out of the preseason top 25 are P5 teams.

The G5 teams (UC, BYU, Coastal, & FSU) in the top 25 have a combined record of 11-1 (.916), and the sole loss was not an upset.

Dropped from the Top 25:

Week 1: (#13) LSU, (#17) Indiana, (#21) Washington, (#23) Louisiana (lost to #19).

Week 2: (#14) USC, (#15) Texas, (#18) Utah, (#24) Miami (FL)

Week3: (#15) VT, (#21) AZ St.

Teams that have already lost games:

(#7) Clemson
(#11) Ohio St.
(#12) Florida
(#14) Iowa St.
(#15) Wisconsin
(#20) UNC
(#23) Auburn
(#24) UCLA

A little touch of harmless college football rankings schadenfreude never hurt anyone.

(09-23-2021 11:09 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(09-23-2021 11:08 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  2007 was the greatest college football season of my lifetime. Alabama is too powerful for us to get a true 2007 but Ohio St/Clemson losing early is a good start.

2007 was the worst football season I have ever experienced.

My team didn't even have football in 2007!

(09-23-2021 11:28 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-23-2021 11:03 AM)Crayton Wrote:  FiveThirtyEight notes that we have the most losses in the AP Top 25 in years at this point in the season. Not only that, but more advanced metrics point to this being the weakest Top 25 of the playoff era (excepting the COVID year).

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/col...for-grabs/

2007 was marked by an exceptional level of turnover at the top of the rankings. Each of the top teams has shown vulnerability. Could we be headed to another 2007-type season?

EDIT: I've got a simulation machine. What is a good way to measure "chaos" in a given season?

The main driver of this is likely the COVID year we just had. With available rosters being a crapshoot, and less OOC games than ever, it was extremely difficult to gauge who was actually good(still friggin Alabama), and who benefitted from only playing a soft conference-only schedule (UNC, Miami), who may have looked good due to weakened big name opponents (Louisiana, maybe Coastal Carolina in 2-3 weeks), who was recycled into the mix just because of their name (USC), and who looked down last year and is actually quite good (SDSU, Michigan).

Pollsters have been very stubborn this year about demoting losers

(09-23-2021 11:09 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(09-23-2021 11:08 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  2007 was the greatest college football season of my lifetime. Alabama is too powerful for us to get a true 2007 but Ohio St/Clemson losing early is a good start.

2007 was the worst football season I have ever experienced.

Conversely, I think that 2007 was pretty good on balance.

(09-23-2021 03:31 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-23-2021 11:09 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(09-23-2021 11:08 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  2007 was the greatest college football season of my lifetime. Alabama is too powerful for us to get a true 2007 but Ohio St/Clemson losing early is a good start.

2007 was the worst football season I have ever experienced.

Conversely, I think that 2007 was pretty good on balance.

A 43 year streak ended, I assumed you would like that,

2007 chaos?

In 2007, there were some Cincinnati games where 45,000+ packed into a 35,000 seat stadium. The students were allowed to come into the game for free by swiping their ID, and they just let people keep coming in. It was absolute pandemonium in the student section as each row had double-rows of students in it (one row on the concrete, one row standing on the bleachers).

2007 was the first season where Cincinnati finished the season ranked in both polls. How's that for chaos?