(10-01-2021 11:49 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Since Covid has a 99.9% survival rate and this pill only prevents half of deaths snd hospitalizations, why take it? Surely a drug that was fast tracked and that doesn’t keep you from spreading the virus isn’t worth it.

This is a "post-infection" treatment. So if you are elderly or have comorbidities who gets covid, thats who should take it. If you are not in that group, and you appear to be getting worse, then that is also someone who should take it.

You're correct about the survival rate, but it is a big deal to take that small group who has serious issues and cut that group in half based on a pill.

And yea, we will probably find out that the pill is ivermectin with zinc added so they could get around the low cost generic ivermectin and charge more for it.

Between this and the shot, no reason for any restrictions anywhere

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(10-02-2021 10:06 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 11:49 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Since Covid has a 99.9% survival rate and this pill only prevents half of deaths snd hospitalizations, why take it? Surely a drug that was fast tracked and that doesn’t keep you from spreading the virus isn’t worth it.

This is a "post-infection" treatment. So if you are elderly or have comorbidities who gets covid, thats who should take it. If you are not in that group, and you appear to be getting worse, then that is also someone who should take it.

You're correct about the survival rate, but it is a big deal to take that small group who has serious issues and cut that group in half based on a pill.

And yea, we will probably find out that the pill is ivermectin with zinc added so they could get around the low cost generic ivermectin and charge more for it.

This is pretty much the exact same thing the vaccine does. Will the anti-vaccine crowd be anti-therapeutic as well?

I mean after all, how could this possibly be safe when developed so quickly? Why is it necessary with such high survival rates? Surely it’s part of some crazy plot to sterilize us all.

I’m suture there are plenty who swear off the vaccine that will tout this as their plan if they get sick which is mind boggling.

(10-02-2021 02:38 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 10:06 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 11:49 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Since Covid has a 99.9% survival rate and this pill only prevents half of deaths snd hospitalizations, why take it? Surely a drug that was fast tracked and that doesn’t keep you from spreading the virus isn’t worth it.

This is a "post-infection" treatment. So if you are elderly or have comorbidities who gets covid, thats who should take it. If you are not in that group, and you appear to be getting worse, then that is also someone who should take it.

You're correct about the survival rate, but it is a big deal to take that small group who has serious issues and cut that group in half based on a pill.

And yea, we will probably find out that the pill is ivermectin with zinc added so they could get around the low cost generic ivermectin and charge more for it.

This is pretty much the exact same thing the vaccine does. Will the anti-vaccine crowd be anti-therapeutic as well?

I mean after all, how could this possibly be safe when developed so quickly? Why is it necessary with such high survival rates? Surely it’s part of some crazy plot to sterilize us all.

I’m suture there are plenty who swear off the vaccine that will tout this as their plan if they get sick which is mind boggling.

This treatment is not what the vaccine does. Also, the vax isnt a true vaccine. The vax appears to knock down the number of severe cases in the elderly and those with comorbidities. But its becoming quite clear that if you are young and healthy, the vax is doing nothing for you. If you get a severe case without comorbidities, you would have gotten it with or without the vax.

If this were a true vax, where you would build up immunity and would not be able to transmit covid, it would be one thing. But its not a vaccine. People with the vax are getting covid, and are spewing covid to others.

Right now the states that are on the decline in cases are the lowest vaxxed states out there. THe states that are spiking are amongst the highest. Its as if the number of vaccinated makes no difference. Also, in S FLorida, about half of the monoclonal antibodies are given to those who are vaxxed, even though they are only 36% of the population; which again points to the fact that the entire healthy population requires treatment at the same rate whether they are vaxxed or not.

(10-02-2021 04:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 02:38 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 10:06 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 11:49 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Since Covid has a 99.9% survival rate and this pill only prevents half of deaths snd hospitalizations, why take it? Surely a drug that was fast tracked and that doesn’t keep you from spreading the virus isn’t worth it.

This is a "post-infection" treatment. So if you are elderly or have comorbidities who gets covid, thats who should take it. If you are not in that group, and you appear to be getting worse, then that is also someone who should take it.

You're correct about the survival rate, but it is a big deal to take that small group who has serious issues and cut that group in half based on a pill.

And yea, we will probably find out that the pill is ivermectin with zinc added so they could get around the low cost generic ivermectin and charge more for it.

This is pretty much the exact same thing the vaccine does. Will the anti-vaccine crowd be anti-therapeutic as well?

I mean after all, how could this possibly be safe when developed so quickly? Why is it necessary with such high survival rates? Surely it’s part of some crazy plot to sterilize us all.

I’m suture there are plenty who swear off the vaccine that will tout this as their plan if they get sick which is mind boggling.

This treatment is not what the vaccine does. Also, the vax isnt a true vaccine. The vax appears to knock down the number of severe cases in the elderly and those with comorbidities. But its becoming quite clear that if you are young and healthy, the vax is doing nothing for you. If you get a severe case without comorbidities, you would have gotten it with or without the vax.

If this were a true vax, where you would build up immunity and would not be able to transmit covid, it would be one thing. But its not a vaccine. People with the vax are getting covid, and are spewing covid to others.

Right now the states that are on the decline in cases are the lowest vaxxed states out there. THe states that are spiking are amongst the highest. Its as if the number of vaccinated makes no difference. Also, in S FLorida, about half of the monoclonal antibodies are given to those who are vaxxed, even though they are only 36% of the population; which again points to the fact that the entire healthy population requires treatment at the same rate whether they are vaxxed or not.

The treatment accomplishes it in a vastly different way but the outcome is similar-reduction in severity of the illness and a reduction in fatalities. One is proactive while the other is reactive. One may not keep everyone who receives it from spreading but it does keep many from spreading because it keeps many from getting it in the first place. The other, if I understand correctly, does nothing to reduce transmission. Personally, I would rather take proactive measures to keep myself from getting infected. I know it’s nowhere near 100% effective but even if it’s 50% effective at keeping me from catching it, I’ll take those odds. Then if I do get it snd get really sick, the therapeutic is still an option.

I, by the way, am young, healthy and vaxxed. I still managed to get COVID. Was exposed more times than I can count, snd those are just the times I know about. Finally got it and literally had a runny nose and scratchy throat for less than 36 hours. I’m sure the vaccine had something to do with that, along with the fact that I was exposed numerous times before actually getting it.