(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

I don't think Memphis moves. Like Boise they're waiting on a big 12 invite in 2024 - 25.

Makes sense. However, if Gonzaga comes over, that is a game changer. Considering future realignment is always shaky and hard to predict, I think the Zags would be impossible to say no to. Imagine getting to have a Memphis/Zaga match up in Memphis and Spokane every year.

Doesn’t matter. They aren’t going to set themselves up to pay exit fees twice. Nobody with a Big12 shot is moving to another G5 until after the P5 realignment window closes in 2025.

Dayton wouldnt come. This conference is lousy in hoops and basically a one bid league.. Why would they want to play Tulsa, Tulsane, ECU, USF every year.

(10-01-2021 09:52 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:39 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

I don't think Memphis moves. Like Boise they're waiting on a big 12 invite in 2024 - 25.

Makes sense. However, if Gonzaga comes over, that is a game changer. Considering future realignment is always shaky and hard to predict, I think the Zags would be impossible to say no to. Imagine getting to have a Memphis/Zaga match up in Memphis and Spokane every year.

Doesn’t matter. They aren’t going to set themselves up to pay exit fees twice. Nobody with a Big12 shot is moving to another G5 until after the P5 realignment window closes in 2025.

MWC conference could still grab Gonzaga, Wichita, Tulsa, SMU and add 4 Olympic sports and 2 football schools.

(10-01-2021 09:49 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Except that MWC has been in contact with Tulsa

If it is so, it is so. Nonetheless, Tulsa brings nothing. You can kill the AAC by simply grabbing SMU and Memphis, who obviously, both bring more value.

If they can get Tulsa, then that means Wichita, SMU, Memphis and Possibly Tulane become options too. Depending on the how much the new MWC tv deal is.

They should offer all 5. Navy would more than likely go Indy again. That only leaves 3 teams and the AAC could be folded without exit fees. Takes 8 votes of the 11 to kill the conference.

3 are out the door, if the MWC takes 4 and navy decides it doesn’t want to stay, then Temple, ECU and USF have big problems.

(10-01-2021 09:54 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:49 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Except that MWC has been in contact with Tulsa

If it is so, it is so. Nonetheless, Tulsa brings nothing. You can kill the AAC by simply grabbing SMU and Memphis, who obviously, both bring more value.

If they can get Tulsa, then that means Wichita, SMU, Memphis and Possibly Tulane become options too. Depending on the how much the new MWC tv deal is.

They should offer all 5. Navy would more than likely go Indy again. That only leaves 3 teams and the AAC could be folded without exit fees. Takes 8 votes of the 11 to kill the conference.

3 are out the door, if the MWC takes 4 and navy decides it doesn’t want to stay, then Temple, ECU and USF have big problems.

LoL, your tune sure has changed? Maybe you got bad info.

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Why would they leave? Let's say SMU, Tulsa, and Wichita leave. With UCF, Houston, and Cincy gone that is a lot of exit fees. Exit fees along with leaving what money is already in the bank. The best thing for Memphis, ECU, Tulane, USF, and Temple (Navy will be gone too) to do is go after SBC/CUSA schools.

Is there a point where enough teams leave the AAC doesn’t exist anymore? Or does it exist as long as one team left?

(10-01-2021 09:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Not that what Thamel says necessarily matters, but:

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...age-3.html

Credit to Rube Dali on the Realignment board for breaking it there.

Scrambling for a plan? Lol. Grambling, Stonybrook, LIU, Presbyterian, and UT Chattanooga are available.

I think the MWC and AAC are at an impasse until the next moves are made above them.

No one wants to pay exit and entry fees to a league that might lose its best school in a year or two and doesn't offer a huge pay increase.

(10-01-2021 09:54 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:49 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Except that MWC has been in contact with Tulsa

If it is so, it is so. Nonetheless, Tulsa brings nothing. You can kill the AAC by simply grabbing SMU and Memphis, who obviously, both bring more value.

If they can get Tulsa, then that means Wichita, SMU, Memphis and Possibly Tulane become options too. Depending on the how much the new MWC tv deal is.

They should offer all 5. Navy would more than likely go Indy again. That only leaves 3 teams and the AAC could be folded without exit fees. Takes 8 votes of the 11 to kill the conference.

3 are out the door, if the MWC takes 4 and navy decides it doesn’t want to stay, then Temple, ECU and USF have big problems.

IF Tulsa and SMU go to the MWC, Tulane will move with them. I think that unless a P5 comes calling, those three schools will stick together.

Disappointing for the AAC for sure....but i don't think its jump off the bridge yet. AAC shouldn't panic.

Add UAB....that is an obvious. Then maybe add one more to get back to 10. Marshall, App St., Charlotte, UTSA.

But I think the worst thing to do would be to add 4-6 cusa or sunbelt teams. Get back to 10 and wait it out. Things could change down the road.

I am shocked there isn't a full merger between AAC and MWC being discussed. Conferences are wanting to go bigger these days. 20 teams is not that far fetched with pods and divisions. Seems maybe best for everyone.

(10-01-2021 09:56 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:54 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:49 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:41 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Except that MWC has been in contact with Tulsa

If it is so, it is so. Nonetheless, Tulsa brings nothing. You can kill the AAC by simply grabbing SMU and Memphis, who obviously, both bring more value.

If they can get Tulsa, then that means Wichita, SMU, Memphis and Possibly Tulane become options too. Depending on the how much the new MWC tv deal is.

They should offer all 5. Navy would more than likely go Indy again. That only leaves 3 teams and the AAC could be folded without exit fees. Takes 8 votes of the 11 to kill the conference.

3 are out the door, if the MWC takes 4 and navy decides it doesn’t want to stay, then Temple, ECU and USF have big problems.

LoL, your tune sure has changed? Maybe you got bad info.

Info was good till the last day or so.

This is CBS. Notice who broke the two stories as to those four teams staying. CBS stepped up and then let their people break it.

Air Force wanted this. CSU was in favor of it too. Only one thing makes teams change their mind that quick.

(10-01-2021 09:35 AM)fanhoodtheocho Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 09:24 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Wichita, SMU, Gonzaga, and Tulsa to the Mountain West just became a real possibility.

Tulsa does not bring anything to the table.

I am sure that the MWC Board of Directors will push for Gonzaga again. If Gonzaga comes, I would think SMU and Memphis would be a real possibility.

Frankly, if I were ECU and Tulane, I would be on the phone with the Sun Belt. They would be a perfect fit for all parties.

Tulane in the SunBelt with a bunch of Tier 4 schools? Will never, ever happen. Worst possible fit. We will stick with SMU and Tulsa and do whatever they do.

(10-01-2021 09:58 AM)ta town Wrote:  Is there a point where enough teams leave the AAC doesn’t exist anymore? Or does it exist as long as one team left?

*I come in peace, don't jump on me*

The AAC isn't going anywhere. This just means they'll be backfilling with the CUSA schools of their choice and they'll soldier on. If Memphis leaves down the line the same will be true. The conference this is real bad news for is CUSA, if the AAC and SB are now both circling.

(10-01-2021 10:03 AM)Boots Wrote:  Disappointing for the AAC for sure....but i don't think its jump off the bridge yet. AAC shouldn't panic.

Add UAB....that is an obvious. Then maybe add one more to get back to 10. Marshall, App St., Charlotte, UTSA.

But I think the worst thing to do would be to add 4-6 cusa or sunbelt teams. Get back to 10 and wait it out. Things could change down the road.

I am shocked there isn't a full merger between AAC and MWC being discussed. Conferences are wanting to go bigger these days. 20 teams is not that far fetched with pods and divisions. Seems maybe best for everyone.

For the non-football member here .. it's getting close to panic time. Especially since Memphis has a foot out the door.

(10-01-2021 10:06 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 10:03 AM)Boots Wrote:  Disappointing for the AAC for sure....but i don't think its jump off the bridge yet. AAC shouldn't panic.

Add UAB....that is an obvious. Then maybe add one more to get back to 10. Marshall, App St., Charlotte, UTSA.

But I think the worst thing to do would be to add 4-6 cusa or sunbelt teams. Get back to 10 and wait it out. Things could change down the road.

I am shocked there isn't a full merger between AAC and MWC being discussed. Conferences are wanting to go bigger these days. 20 teams is not that far fetched with pods and divisions. Seems maybe best for everyone.

For the non-football member here .. it's getting close to panic time. Especially since Memphis has a foot out the door.

Yeah, I really don't see a huge benefit to Wichita State to stay in the conference now honestly. With that being said, where would you go? Looks like MVC got a few new adds, so would they be willing to bring you all back?

(10-01-2021 10:09 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 10:06 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 10:03 AM)Boots Wrote:  Disappointing for the AAC for sure....but i don't think its jump off the bridge yet. AAC shouldn't panic.

Add UAB....that is an obvious. Then maybe add one more to get back to 10. Marshall, App St., Charlotte, UTSA.

But I think the worst thing to do would be to add 4-6 cusa or sunbelt teams. Get back to 10 and wait it out. Things could change down the road.

I am shocked there isn't a full merger between AAC and MWC being discussed. Conferences are wanting to go bigger these days. 20 teams is not that far fetched with pods and divisions. Seems maybe best for everyone.

For the non-football member here .. it's getting close to panic time. Especially since Memphis has a foot out the door.

Yeah, I really don't see a huge benefit to Wichita State to stay in the conference now honestly. With that being said, where would you go? Looks like MVC got a few new adds, so would they be willing to bring you all back?

They would take us back in a heartbeat .. but that should be like option 7 for us.

As I stated earlier .. our AD has said publicly we are stuck in the AAC and everyone connected to the program has said that's actually the case. He's not even looking. He's lazy. The AAC move was done by Bardo our previous president who transformationly changed the university. He passed away a couple years after the move. We have a brand new president and a lazy AD. So we are likely just going to sit back and take it and the AD can just say "nothing I can do"

(10-01-2021 10:03 AM)Boots Wrote:  Disappointing for the AAC for sure....but i don't think its jump off the bridge yet. AAC shouldn't panic.

Add UAB....that is an obvious. Then maybe add one more to get back to 10. Marshall, App St., Charlotte, UTSA.

But I think the worst thing to do would be to add 4-6 cusa or sunbelt teams. Get back to 10 and wait it out. Things could change down the road.

I am shocked there isn't a full merger between AAC and MWC being discussed. Conferences are wanting to go bigger these days. 20 teams is not that far fetched with pods and divisions. Seems maybe best for everyone.

Aresco should get on his knees in front of Thompson and suggest this - now. Once the domino's begin to fall it might be too late. Honestly, if SMU (and Tulsa) leave I can see Navy going independent. The Mountain West now has the clear advantage if the college football playoff is expanded. That's going to be a huge draw.

Get ready for Aresco to come crawling back to UConn to join fopr FB only.

THIS is what it has come to after all the bluster by that a#$%^@#.

Now...after Aresco did his chest thumping towards the MWC and his trying to pry Big 12 members out of their conf when all this started and......... struck out everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the MWC tried to lure an AAC-er or 2 to the MWC. How ironic would that be? Not to mention the AAC would truly have 1 foot in the door of oblivion....as a few on here have already started to surmise.

Aresco is reaping what he foolishly sowed. Unfortunately an entire conf is paying....and you all love him...cept Ned...heh. And me. But my gripe goes well beyond this fiasco with Aresco. I knew what the AAC was getting. He is the conf killer.

(10-01-2021 09:48 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Does the AAC stay at 8? I don't know that many of these schools see an added value in moving...once the amended media contract comes out, it likely won't be much better than MWC/SBC. Also, isn't Liberty an independent? Why not just add them and go to 10 with UAB (if they're interested)?

Part of me sees the potential writing on the wall of a regional conference structure in the G5 coming to pass with these MWC schools sticking to their region:

Mountain West

Hawaii
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
San Diego State
San Jose State
Utah State

Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
New Mexico
Wyoming
UTEP
New Mexico State

Conference USA

Tulsa
SMU
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
UTSA
Texas State
Rice
Memphis

Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech
Louisiana
Louisiana-Monroe
Tulane
Southern Miss
Troy

Sun Belt Conference

FAU
FIU
USF
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
UAB

Coastal Carolina
Charlotte
East Carolina
Appalachian State
Marshall
Old Dominion
Liberty

MAC

Akron
Kent State
Temple (A-10 in other sports)
UConn (Big East in other sports)
UMass (A-10 in other sports)
Buffalo
Ohio
Miami (Ohio)

Bowling Green
Eastern Michigan
Central Michigan
Western Michigan
Toledo
Western Kentucky
Northern Illinois
Ball State

I agree with you that we will see a consolidation of G5 to G4, but not sure if it’s AAC or CUSA that is odd man out. Before today, I thought AAC had ESPN’s backing, & maybe they still do. I guess we will see if they want another G4 league in addition to SBC & MAC & at what price point.

Some of the teams you have listed (probably 4-6) will get a call up to one of the P5 leagues as they are not done adding/reshuffling for their next tv deals. I would think each of ACC/B12/PAC will need 14 each to keep their deals consistent with each other & B1G will go to 16 to keep pace with SEC.