(10-20-2021 10:05 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  I like the fact that he only lost 3 but took 6
The AAC could have taken 1,2, 3,or 4 teams
But they went all the way to six.

Why not go to 8 teams at that point.

The six schools were a second choice
Remember the AAC wanted Air-force
CSU, Boise San Deigo State.

If that would have went through
The MWC would may have taken our Texas
Teams and CUSA would have moved ahead with
10 teams in a more easterly conference.

But here we are. Hopefully we hang on to
Marshall and USM.

The biggest blame goes to Britton
Breakaconferencesky for pissing
Off ESPN. Which made leaving this conference
Easy to do.

They are fully expecting to lose SMU, Memphis, and South Florida, and possibly Wichita State with SMU and Memphis gone.

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

When I read who left I was pretty excited. The only school I’ll miss is UAB. If we don’t lose anyone else, cuss is actually a better conference overall.

(10-20-2021 10:35 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  They took six because they wanted to cut the MWC out of Texas.

There's no other reason to take 3 of the 4 programs from that state otherwise.

Aresco is trying to nut-drag Thompson.

Thompson will have to look to EWU, Montana and NDSU for expansion options so long as the AAC finances are better than the MWC. Aresco is betting East Coast TV Markets are more attractive than Mountain Time Zone TV Markets.

(10-20-2021 11:14 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 10:05 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  I like the fact that he only lost 3 but took 6
The AAC could have taken 1,2, 3,or 4 teams
But they went all the way to six.

Why not go to 8 teams at that point.

The six schools were a second choice
Remember the AAC wanted Air-force
CSU, Boise San Deigo State.

If that would have went through
The MWC would may have taken our Texas
Teams and CUSA would have moved ahead with
10 teams in a more easterly conference.

But here we are. Hopefully we hang on to
Marshall and USM.

The biggest blame goes to Britton
Breakaconferencesky for pissing
Off ESPN. Which made leaving this conference
Easy to do.

They are fully expecting to lose SMU, Memphis, and South Florida, and possibly Wichita State with SMU and Memphis gone.

Again I'd say Memphis and SMU are very possible, but the big 12 definitely going to 16 is a stretch

And if it happens guess what , the AAC is down to 11 and adds a cusa , sun belt or Mac team that they want in the east. That's all they'd need in the worst case scenario

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At one point are we all relegated to a lower division once the silver-spoon conferences all go to 16?

And they can keep all the $$$$

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

Not at all Riley. You have been the dick talking about dead weight ever since Marshall was left out. You just can't take it when someone comes back at you

South Florida is booming in population. Huntington is dying

I was referring to rice with academics but yes I think most rank FAU over Marshall too overall

The payouts gradually improve over the last 7-8 years of the tv deal. It will be equal down the road. Happens all the time . It still 4 times what cusa gets and that's to start by the way

I agree our basketball and arena suck. I also think a contingency on us getting in was improving that

People like you are trying to make themselves feel better. Acting like all who go to the AAC won't be improved by more exposure, better tv deal , spending more , better opponents etc. It has happened before and will happen again here

And again the people grasping at AAC worst case scenarios know they'd go in a second if invited. And if a team is needed down the road they'll get them. Won't need to go to fcs



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(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

Not at all Riley. You have been the dick talking about dead weight ever since Marshall was left out. You just can't take it when someone comes back at you

South Florida is booming in population. Huntington is dying

I was referring to rice with academics but yes I think most rank FAU over Marshall too overall

I agree our basketball and arena suck. I also think a contingency on us getting in was improving that

People like you are trying to make themselves feel better. Acting like all who go to the AAC won't be improved by more exposure, better tv deal , spending more , better opponents etc. It has happened before and will happen again here

And again the people grasping at AAC worst case scenarios know they'd go in a second if invited. And if a team is needed down the road they'll get them. Won't need to go to fcs



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Now that we both vented, I am going to miss playing FAI, I've seen you guys start from the bottom and come up pretty well.

I know we're giving each other crap, and yes I've been a jerk but I've seen too many people poke fun at Huntington unjustly.

Anyway, we got a couple more years playing together, and you might be right, I think UAB or UTSA has a great shot at winning the year.

(10-20-2021 11:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

Not at all Riley. You have been the dick talking about dead weight ever since Marshall was left out. You just can't take it when someone comes back at you

South Florida is booming in population. Huntington is dying

I was referring to rice with academics but yes I think most rank FAU over Marshall too overall

I agree our basketball and arena suck. I also think a contingency on us getting in was improving that

People like you are trying to make themselves feel better. Acting like all who go to the AAC won't be improved by more exposure, better tv deal , spending more , better opponents etc. It has happened before and will happen again here

And again the people grasping at AAC worst case scenarios know they'd go in a second if invited. And if a team is needed down the road they'll get them. Won't need to go to fcs



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Now that we both vented, I am going to miss playing FAI, I've seen you guys start from the bottom and come up pretty well.

I know we're giving each other crap, and yes I've been a jerk but I've seen too many people poke fun at Huntington unjustly.

Anyway, we got a couple more years playing together, and you might be right, I think UAB or UTSA has a great shot at winning the year.

I said I was hoping for Marshall and UAB plus one more with us to the AAC in many posts. Didn't anticipate 6 adds. And honestly I still think there would be a shot if you get the budget in order and a strong new president if the "worst case" scenario happens and the AAC need a team or two

Marshall will go to the sun belt or they will hold the league together. They aren't biting their nails . Schools like UTEP, fiu and mt are based on if the sun belt gets you and usm

Put yourself in our shoes. Imagine fiu was taken and not us . We'd be on an island as a best case scenario. Playing a hodge podge of UTEP , la tech southern miss and maybe some fcs. Because if you add liberty and jmu the north division won't include a Florida school

Now we swap fiu for south Florida. Take UAB and Charlotte with us. Get ecu, Memphis and temple instead of wku, odu and mt.

You cant blame us for leaving.

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(10-20-2021 11:48 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

Not at all Riley. You have been the dick talking about dead weight ever since Marshall was left out. You just can't take it when someone comes back at you

South Florida is booming in population. Huntington is dying

I was referring to rice with academics but yes I think most rank FAU over Marshall too overall

I agree our basketball and arena suck. I also think a contingency on us getting in was improving that

People like you are trying to make themselves feel better. Acting like all who go to the AAC won't be improved by more exposure, better tv deal , spending more , better opponents etc. It has happened before and will happen again here

And again the people grasping at AAC worst case scenarios know they'd go in a second if invited. And if a team is needed down the road they'll get them. Won't need to go to fcs



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Now that we both vented, I am going to miss playing FAI, I've seen you guys start from the bottom and come up pretty well.

I know we're giving each other crap, and yes I've been a jerk but I've seen too many people poke fun at Huntington unjustly.

Anyway, we got a couple more years playing together, and you might be right, I think UAB or UTSA has a great shot at winning the year.

I said I was hoping for Marshall and UAB plus one more with us to the AAC in many posts. Didn't anticipate 6 adds. And honestly I still think there would be a shot if you get the budget in order and a strong new president if the "worst case" scenario happens and the AAC need a team or two

Marshall will go to the sun belt or they will hold the league together. They aren't biting their nails . Schools like UTEP, fiu and mt are based on if the sun belt gets you and usm

Put yourself in our shoes. Imagine fiu was taken and not us . We'd be on an island as a best case scenario. Playing a hodge podge of UTEP , la tech southern miss and maybe some fcs. Because if you add liberty and jmu the north division won't include a Florida school

Now we swap fiu for south Florida. Take UAB and Charlotte with us. Get ecu, Memphis and temple instead of wku, odu and mt.

You cant blame us for leaving.

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I can't at all. I just thought they would try to also backfill with some established programs.

Unfortunately, none of us are entering into slam dunk best environments. I liked the AAC for its contract and ESPN exposure, now yes I'm bitter, but understand excluding La Tech, Southern Miss, App State, WKU and Marshall is a slap in the face to established programs by inviting Charlotte, Rice and UNT.

(10-20-2021 10:05 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  I like the fact that he only lost 3 but took 6
The AAC could have taken 1,2, 3,or 4 teams
But they went all the way to six.

Why not go to 8 teams at that point.

The six schools were a second choice
Remember the AAC wanted Air-force
CSU, Boise San Deigo State.

If that would have went through
The MWC would may have taken our Texas
Teams and CUSA would have moved ahead with
10 teams in a more easterly conference.

But here we are. Hopefully we hang on to
Marshall and USM.

The biggest blame goes to Britton
Breakaconferencesky for pissing
Off ESPN. Which made leaving this conference
Easy to do.

I like how you summarized this about something that has been commented on non-stop for the last 30 hours!! Is this the "NEW" re-alignment thread?

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

This. We got lucky that the AAC made the market expansion mistake. Marshall/USM have brands. People know/watch them. Hopefully we can add two more albeit newer brands with Liberty/JMU. CUSA made the mistake that the AAC just made with us when they expanded for markets. Our enrollment is top 5 in the country and we’re in a major city - obviously this doesn’t always mean fans will come and teams will boom. Outside of UAB/UTSA/FAU none of those teams have been productive in football in 10 years if ever. I expect that will continue to be the case moving forward. Rice was the only brand we lost but it’s a net gain due to their location and football struggles (which I imagine will continue largely as a result of their academic standards).

(10-20-2021 11:53 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:48 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:31 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:29 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

Not at all Riley. You have been the dick talking about dead weight ever since Marshall was left out. You just can't take it when someone comes back at you

South Florida is booming in population. Huntington is dying

I was referring to rice with academics but yes I think most rank FAU over Marshall too overall

I agree our basketball and arena suck. I also think a contingency on us getting in was improving that

People like you are trying to make themselves feel better. Acting like all who go to the AAC won't be improved by more exposure, better tv deal , spending more , better opponents etc. It has happened before and will happen again here

And again the people grasping at AAC worst case scenarios know they'd go in a second if invited. And if a team is needed down the road they'll get them. Won't need to go to fcs



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Now that we both vented, I am going to miss playing FAI, I've seen you guys start from the bottom and come up pretty well.

I know we're giving each other crap, and yes I've been a jerk but I've seen too many people poke fun at Huntington unjustly.

Anyway, we got a couple more years playing together, and you might be right, I think UAB or UTSA has a great shot at winning the year.

I said I was hoping for Marshall and UAB plus one more with us to the AAC in many posts. Didn't anticipate 6 adds. And honestly I still think there would be a shot if you get the budget in order and a strong new president if the "worst case" scenario happens and the AAC need a team or two

Marshall will go to the sun belt or they will hold the league together. They aren't biting their nails . Schools like UTEP, fiu and mt are based on if the sun belt gets you and usm

Put yourself in our shoes. Imagine fiu was taken and not us . We'd be on an island as a best case scenario. Playing a hodge podge of UTEP , la tech southern miss and maybe some fcs. Because if you add liberty and jmu the north division won't include a Florida school

Now we swap fiu for south Florida. Take UAB and Charlotte with us. Get ecu, Memphis and temple instead of wku, odu and mt.

You cant blame us for leaving.

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I can't at all. I just thought they would try to also backfill with some established programs.

Unfortunately, none of us are entering into slam dunk best environments. I liked the AAC for its contract and ESPN exposure, now yes I'm bitter, but understand excluding La Tech, Southern Miss, App State, WKU and Marshall is a slap in the face to established programs by inviting Charlotte, Rice and UNT.

Fine to feel that way. But wouldn't call them dead weight. They all add something. Heck what if Charlotte wins cusa east this year ? Could honestly happen. Don't think any of our division are world beaters this year

Of course our fanbase is happy. I think the AAC will put a foot in the backside of donors and those in charge to finally improve baseball facilities and overhaul basketball.

And our tv deal here is atrocious. I live in Ohio and don't even get cbs sports network. I had to go to my mom's and hour away to watch our last title game win ....I just watched us face UAB on stadium after we've won the last 4 titles.

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(10-20-2021 11:57 AM)2009panther Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

This. We got lucky that the AAC made the market expansion mistake. Marshall/USM have brands. People know/watch them. Hopefully we can add two more albeit newer brands with Liberty/JMU. CUSA made the mistake that the AAC just made with us when they expanded for markets. Our enrollment is top 5 in the country and we’re in a major city - obviously this doesn’t always mean fans will come and teams will boom. Outside of UAB/UTSA/FAU none of those teams have been productive in football in 10 years if ever. I expect that will continue to be the case moving forward. Rice was the only brand we lost but it’s a net gain due to their location and football struggles (which I imagine will continue largely as a result of their academic standards).

Rice won the conference in 2013. Marshall last won in 2014

North Texas was 2017 runner up

Charlotte could win our division this year

Didn't you say we wouldn't get in the AAC before on here ?

Honestly though I hope we keep playing you guys. And I hope they do a zipper or something here so you guys don't get a division of no east coast teams . Or stick to 10 and have you guys play all teams


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I'll start a new line here Ragu. I agree with you, the current TV contract is terrible. But that is due to change next year.

I understand why you are leaving, but you also have to logically look at it from our shoes. This is what we've been talking about for years, getting more exposure, and you're definitely going to get that. But what if CUSA gets that new commissioner and new TV deal?

Like we helped make the cake and then didn't get to eat it.

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

This has been the debate for what seems to be forever...and your thesis has been proven wrong. It's not establishment, it's not markets (although it appears that way) it's budget. The gap between C-USA and AAC compared to sunbelt is not as much. That is why no teams from the sunbelt were chosen. It's a $20 mil gap between C-USA and AAC; compared to $30 to $40 mil gap for sunbelt. I think the teams that are going made a commitment to close that gap.

(10-20-2021 10:42 AM)freshtop Wrote:  I think Thompson played his cards right. He held onto all his teams and made the AAC dilute.

Yes.

Quote:If for some reason SMU gets left in the cold when the Big 12 comes calling again he can target them and Tulsa and end up coming out ahead.

SMU and Tulsa have both been in a Mtn/Pacific/Hawaii-based conference before. It sucked for both of them.

Now, could things eventually get so gross in the Aack! that they might go crawling back, anyway? Sure, I suppose.

(10-20-2021 11:15 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:10 AM)Ragu Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

They also wanted some schools with academics. That don't have community colleges attached to them

And schools with higher budgets and ability to spend and make more improvements

And schools in areas people want to visit without dying populations

And schools who have won the last 4 football titles and could win this year and next. This year the chances are pretty high ...

I know you are trying to make yourself feel better but Marshall fans were all about the AAC when idiot Matt brown said you were going. Well those same schools rumored with Marshall are going plus 3 more. Those saying they don't like the mix now we're perfectly fine going with UTSA UAB and Charlotte before in that rumor.

Hope cusa stays together or they all find homes if marshall and USM go to the sun belt. I know I don't want to be in fiu's current situation on an island and facing maybe more uncertainty. And we would be facing this now if left in cusa

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Stop. Marshall and FAU hold the same academic R2 status.

Academics play no role in realignment.

The AAC presidents may like rubbing shoulders with Rice, but it's their market they're going after.

You want to start poking warts at Marshall, I can open that door for FAU.

Memphis is going to love your high school basketball program.

Have fun trying to call yourself a peer of schools with much larger budgets than you, and much higher payouts.

And the retirement community in Boca Raton isn't a dying population!? LOL. Florida is where people go to die.

I will not miss fans like you, all 20 of you.

We could be savage if you want to be savage. I prefer to be civil, but you've been a real dick here lately.

This is not directed at all FAU posters, only this 1990s bad Italian sauce idiot.

I haven't done anything to poke at Marshall since this news broke...but to set some facts straight...Florida including Boca is not a dying population. I wish people would stop coming. I can't believe how many CA, NY, NJ, MI plates I see around town. They will really mess this place up...the same way they did to the places they are escaping. And to call Boca a retirement community just means you have a 1980's stereotype in your head. The place is booming, and before this announcement we have been raking in major donations to school and athletics. I expect that will continue with the conference announcement.

(10-20-2021 12:07 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 11:03 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Brands are much more valuable than markets.

A brand like Marshall and App State are a much better options if you're looking for TV viewerships and football prowess than many of the programs plucked.

UAB and FAU are good additions. UTSA COULD be...

Established programs have a much higher floor, and despite the opinion of many in the AAC, actually have a very high ceiling. Not many G5 programs can say they've been in the top 10, had Heisman candidates like Marshall, and we could do it again. We are proven. But the AAC does not want proven, they want the unknown potential, 250,000 viewers and empty stadiums in markets.

This has been the debate for what seems to be forever...and your thesis has been proven wrong. It's not establishment, it's not markets (although it appears that way) it's budget. The gap between C-USA and AAC compared to sunbelt is not as much. That is why no teams from the sunbelt were chosen. It's a $20 mil gap between C-USA and AAC; compared to $30 to $40 mil gap for sunbelt. I think the teams that are going made a commitment to close that gap.

That's what I was saying with the AAC likely putting a foot into the backside of leadership and donors to put more money into the athletic budget and facilities.

And from what I've heard you are right ... I think if Marshall could get that budget up, theyd get in. That is indeed a huge deal

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(10-20-2021 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Personally, I think the AAC did themselves a major disservice putting all the chips on the line towards markets.

They are easily vulnerable.

The new AAC additions are equally vulnerable making $5 million less than their conference partners.

CUSA lost a lot of fat, and could look to add Liberty and JMU and come out much healthier.

That’s only if no one goes to the Sun Belt.