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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
I don’t think is a horrible move for them. First off their basketball and other sports stay in BigEast where they are happy. Their football team gets into a conference where they can be competitive and still get a piece of the CFP and they only need 4 nonconference games a year. If they can get UMass in football only there and maybe convince Delaware to move up that would give them 2 nearby conference opponents.
I want CUSA to survive, they were a good conference for USF and some of those schools need a place to stay in.
So
WKU,MTSU,FIU,UTEP, LaTech
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UMass,UConn and U Delaware for football only
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NMState,Liberty for ALL sports
Move up Sam Houston, SFA for ALL sports.
Gives them 9 all sports and 12 football
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UConn,UMass,Delaware,Liberty,FIU,WKU
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MTSU,LaTech,SFA,Sam Houston,UTEP, NM State
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uconnwhaler
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
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10-29-2021 02:43 PM |
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Sideshow2313
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
Your home schedule sucks. No way you are going to sell season tickets. Buy the ticket for a couple of bucks at the gate if you want to see Yale play.
We shall see what kind of HC wants to not play for a conference championship for 2M. Add in all the bodybag games and it is a career death sentence. Too much risk, no reward, and too much rebuilding.
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10-29-2021 02:51 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 02:51 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
Your home schedule sucks. No way you are going to sell season tickets. Buy the ticket for a couple of bucks at the gate if you want to see Yale play.
We shall see what kind of HC wants to not play for a conference championship for 2M. Add in all the bodybag games and it is a career death sentence. Too much risk, no reward, and too much rebuilding.
No one is going to want that job unless they are "lifers" and have no desire to move up the coaching ranks. There will be no shot at the expanded playoff and to top it all off, it's a basketball-first school in a poor football recruiting footprint.
You gotta think that the transfer portal is going to hurt UConn badly this cycle.
I wish them the best and would have no problem scheduling them for a few home games or even a home/away series if we could get some basketball and baseball games out of the deal... but the situation up there is not good at all.
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10-29-2021 03:03 PM |
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pesik
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
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10-29-2021 03:10 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
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10-29-2021 04:41 PM |
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pesik
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
this take is absurdly wrong, you get 4 non con a year in the aac... remove the top 4 (hell make it the top 1 or 2 ) games ..the aac schedule blows any uconn out the water.. in a not close way.. uconn being a buy game for blue bloods are your sos selling points..
uconn would jump in a heartbeat for an aac football-only invite....
you are literally considering "c-usa"...your AD downplayed it but he could have stated uconn has no interest at the moment... you guys are considering c-usa but think you have a better schedule???? lmao
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10-29-2021 04:52 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
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10-29-2021 04:53 PM |
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uconnwhaler
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 04:53 PM)Bull Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
Close enough with basketball. And you don’t get $7m. Never had, and you are taking haircuts and production costs. If you are buying what Aresco is selling, we’ll then…
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10-29-2021 05:14 PM |
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pesik
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 05:14 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:53 PM)Bull Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 02:43 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: CUSA called. UConn answered. CUSA leaked. That is literally all there is head. Look at our scheduling…there is a 0% chance we leave that for CUSA.
side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
Close enough with basketball. And you don’t get $7m. Never had, and you are taking haircuts and production costs. If you are buying what Aresco is selling, we’ll then…
the 7 mil is confirmed, the estimated production costs are also only 500k
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uconnwhaler
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 05:18 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 05:14 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:53 PM)Bull Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
Close enough with basketball. And you don’t get $7m. Never had, and you are taking haircuts and production costs. If you are buying what Aresco is selling, we’ll then…
the 7 mil is confirmed, the estimated production costs are also only 500k
It most definitely is not. Language like "payout will be essentially unchanged" leaves a lot of room for games and almost definitely includes allocation of exit fees. Aresco is notoriously cagey about the TV deal amd there is a reason. And if you produce all your football and basketball for $500k it will be cringeworthy.
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10-29-2021 07:27 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 11:26 AM)Meatwad Wrote: (10-29-2021 11:01 AM)Sideshow2313 Wrote: I do hope CUSA survives as a conference.
so do i. i love cusa and the aac. they were instrumental in ucf's rise.
It would be weird to see the CUSA fall apart, not only for the conference itself, but because there are a lot of FCS schools that want to make the transition to FBS, and they couldn't get a much better opportunity than to join the CUSA.
Their alternatives would be the ASUN and WAC, where they have been planning to make the transition, but CUSA will have exit payments from 11 schools and annual CFP payments, as well as recognition as a current FBS conference.
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10-29-2021 08:09 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 05:18 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 05:14 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:53 PM)Bull Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: (10-29-2021 03:10 PM)pesik Wrote: side note is that uconn fans cant tell the difference between baseball brands and football brands
ive seen countless uconn fans brag abou theirr schedule..and you look at hte schedule and it mostly terrible teams who have good basketball brands
....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
Close enough with basketball. And you don’t get $7m. Never had, and you are taking haircuts and production costs. If you are buying what Aresco is selling, we’ll then…
the 7 mil is confirmed, the estimated production costs are also only 500k
The annual payments from the conference, per school will be well over $8 million/year, due to the revenue generated from Houston et al. NCAA tournament credits and a long string of NY6 bowl games
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10-29-2021 08:13 PM |
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 07:27 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (10-29-2021 05:18 PM)pesik Wrote: (10-29-2021 05:14 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:53 PM)Bull Wrote: (10-29-2021 04:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: ....yet our indy schedule is still better than an AAC football schedule. There is a 0% chance that UConn makes this move. 0%
So you get 7m per year then?
Close enough with basketball. And you don’t get $7m. Never had, and you are taking haircuts and production costs. If you are buying what Aresco is selling, we’ll then…
the 7 mil is confirmed, the estimated production costs are also only 500k
It most definitely is not. Language like "payout will be essentially unchanged" leaves a lot of room for games and almost definitely includes allocation of exit fees. Aresco is notoriously cagey about the TV deal amd there is a reason. And if you produce all your football and basketball for $500k it will be cringeworthy.
The exit fees havenn’t been negotiated yet,, it makes no sense on why it would be included as early as 3 weeks ago in tv projections
And why would it cost more than 500k ??
They aren’t buying new equipment every telecast .. you are just contracting a production staff and it’s for not "all".. everything on linear is financed by espn, almost no football games are on espn+ and less than half of the basketball..
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
a couple of uconn beat writers were actually discussing this topic this week... why uconn fans are irrationally and obsessively begrudge the aac and pray on the aac's downfall... that it makes absolutely no sense ... which it doesn't.. there is no negative tweet about the aac that doesn't have 5 uconn fans under it celebrating
geno already confirmed the big east had rejected UConn for years before saying yes... the aac gave uconn a home when no one else would
uconn fans while in the aac blamed the aac for its failures, which makes no sense at all.. a weaker league should have meant more wins not more losses....
UConn fans said they couldn't recruit in the AAC, ignoring the uconn recruited 4 and 5stars in the AAC... and Houston and Memphis are recruiting at an elite level in the aac .
sampson was asked about the "recruiting bump" in the big 12.. he said there was none..he said this was big for the fans, but not the big for the staff.. "programs" recruit not conference.. a houston the program as it is now could recruit in any league
uconn fans said they were being stripped of their linear exposure in the aac tv deal and put on espn+, they nonstop ranted about it, and their AD put out a statement of disappointment with espn+ ... ESPN's president flat said they were willing to sublicense uconn games to sny and that wasnt an issue..which uconn fans ignored
--random fact tons of aac espn+ games get sublicensed to local networks, their complaints made no sense
uconn fans said their football would thrive outside of the aac as an infy...uconn football since leaving has become a mem for absolute worst team in college football..
*some* uconn fans said the rumors than uconn wanted football-only were a lie, uconn wanted nothing to do with the aac ..despite credible sources saying otherwise..but right now uconn is considering an invitation from a considerable worse c-usa
then uconn fans come here every now and then with their horrible fans takes that go against what credible sources are saying and saying to believe them over credible sources, even though they have a clear vendetta against the league and aren't credible with their bias
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
All a CUSA leak and fantasy to seem like they might have a chance of surviving. They are on deaths bed now as a conference and if WKU and MTSU leave for MAC than there is no way the conference survives. You can dig a 6 foot hole to bury the conference in.
Also it makes no sense for UCONN to go to CUSA. Chances of this happening are a hard 0%. As down as their program is now, there are still much better off as an indy for football. They are an attractive team to schedule a 1:1 with, the evidence of that is in their ability to schedule good teams. For those scheduling UCONN it looks an easy win given their current state, and still an FBS team.
Supposedly UCONN will be making a big investment with a new coach / assts that makes them more competitive and if they turn it around they have a shot to have some exciting wins against decent teams with their upcoming schedules.
Their brand is basketball and the truth is they are much better off in Big East for basketball.
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10-29-2021 09:57 PM |
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pesik
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 09:57 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote: All a CUSA leak and fantasy to seem like they might have a chance of surviving. They are on deaths bed now as a conference and if WKU and MTSU leave for MAC than there is no way the conference survives. You can dig a 6 foot hole to bury the conference in.
Also it makes no sense for UCONN to go to CUSA. Chances of this happening are a hard 0%. As down as their program is now, there are still much better off as an indy for football. They are an attractive team to schedule a 1:1 with, the evidence of that is in their ability to schedule good teams. For those scheduling UCONN it looks an easy win given their current state, and still an FBS team.
Supposedly UCONN will be making a big investment with a new coach / assts that makes them more competitive and if they turn it around they have a shot to have some exciting wins against decent teams with their upcoming schedules.
Their brand is basketball and the truth is they are much better off in Big East for basketball.
they would have already rejected them, and released a statement of beng happy as an independent if it was 0%...
it "unlikely" but "0%" is too low
and again people like to act like UConn gives up its entire indy schedule.. noncons in a conference are a thing...uconn gets to keep its top 4 games scheduled.. remove the top 2 or 3 games in their schedule and their schedule really aren't that good
i also dont get how you can say uconn has it easy scheduling..they need multiple games for 2023 - 2026 and most of the nation has already filled its schedule.. uconn is targetting all the byu cancelled games (ie usf).. if byu didnt join the big 12 theyd have almost no options
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RE: If the news of UConn going to CUSA.....
(10-29-2021 09:45 PM)pesik Wrote: a couple of uconn beat writers were actually discussing this topic this week... why uconn fans are irrationally and obsessively begrudge the aac and pray on the aac's downfall... that it makes absolutely no sense ... which it doesn't.. there is no negative tweet about the aac that doesn't have 5 uconn fans under it celebrating
geno already confirmed the big east had rejected UConn for years before saying yes... the aac gave uconn a home when no one else would
uconn fans while in the aac blamed the aac for its failures, which makes no sense at all.. a weaker league should have meant more wins not more losses....
UConn fans said they couldn't recruit in the AAC, ignoring the uconn recruited 4 and 5stars in the AAC... and Houston and Memphis are recruiting at an elite level in the aac .
sampson was asked about the "recruiting bump" in the big 12.. he said there was none..he said this was big for the fans, but not the big for the staff.. "programs" recruit not conference.. a houston the program as it is now could recruit in any league
uconn fans said they were being stripped of their linear exposure in the aac tv deal and put on espn+, they nonstop ranted about it, and their AD put out a statement of disappointment with espn+ ... ESPN's president flat said they were willing to sublicense uconn games to sny and that wasnt an issue..which uconn fans ignored
--random fact tons of aac espn+ games get sublicensed to local networks, their complaints made no sense
uconn fans said their football would thrive outside of the aac as an infy...uconn football since leaving has become a mem for absolute worst team in college football..
*some* uconn fans said the rumors than uconn wanted football-only were a lie, uconn wanted nothing to do with the aac ..despite credible sources saying otherwise..but right now uconn is considering an invitation from a considerable worse c-usa
then uconn fans come here every now and then with their horrible fans takes that go against what credible sources are saying and saying to believe them over credible sources, even though they have a clear vendetta against the league and aren't credible with their bias
Re bolded.
UCONN was one of 3 forer BE teams (USF and Cincy the others) who would have been among the 'original' AAC teams. We did not give the a home, but we made their home so uncomfortable in both sports, that they chose to run out the door.
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