Luke Fickell would eventually leave the OU job for the Ohio State job. He's made his intentions very clear.

Ryan Day could be in line for a NFL coaching gig this year. He just lost to Michigan, the seat might be a little warm. His agent might feel this is the best time to jump to the NFL and secure the bag. He knows Luke Fickell is looming and his presence is felt a lot more with Luke in the CFP. There has to be some crazy Ohio State alumni with money pushing for Fickell to replace Day because of the Michigan loss.

I do not see a compelling reason for Fickell to leave Cincy for OK, but rumors will persist until he publicly affirms his intent.

(11-29-2021 10:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Luke Fickell would eventually leave the OU job for the Ohio State job. He's made his intentions very clear.

Ryan Day could be in line for a NFL coaching gig this year. He just lost to Michigan, the seat might be a little warm. His agent might feel this is the best time to jump to the NFL and secure the bag. He knows Luke Fickell is looming and his presence felt a lot more with Luke in the CFP. There has to be some crazy Ohio State alumni with money pushing for Fickell to replace Day because of the Michigan loss.

The T-Shirt fans don't like Fick. Fick lost to Michigan too. They are a wild bunch.

(11-29-2021 10:57 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I do not see a compelling reason for Fickell to leave Cincy for OK, but rumors will persist until he publicly affirms his intent.

He won’t publicly address other than laughing about it in his regularly scheduled Tuesday presser. Same thing he continually did about the USC rumors. He’s wired differently.

(11-29-2021 10:57 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:55 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Luke Fickell would eventually leave the OU job for the Ohio State job. He's made his intentions very clear.

Ryan Day could be in line for a NFL coaching gig this year. He just lost to Michigan, the seat might be a little warm. His agent might feel this is the best time to jump to the NFL and secure the bag. He knows Luke Fickell is looming and his presence felt a lot more with Luke in the CFP. There has to be some crazy Ohio State alumni with money pushing for Fickell to replace Day because of the Michigan loss.

The T-Shirt fans don't like Fick. Fick lost to Michigan too. They are a wild bunch.

Yep. He’d be a no-brainer if they had an opening but the fans don’t want him based on the year he got thrown in as the interim when sweater vest got fired. And OSU believes they are way above hiring a HC from a lesser conference.

(11-28-2021 11:21 PM)willhclark Wrote:  https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/146...2258509831

Luke is gone

Just stop it dude.

(11-29-2021 10:57 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I do not see a compelling reason for Fickell to leave Cincy for OK, but rumors will persist until he publicly affirms his intent.

He's not leaving Cincy for OU. He may listen to what they have to say but Fickell is going to have a better chance to win a NC with Cincy in the Big XII than going to the SEC.

I like how people are trying to explain the coaching carousel to UC fans. Guys UC fans were dealing with this going back to the days of Mark Dantonio. UC fans are as adept at this as any fan base in this conference.

If I had to use my gut, I'd say Fickell would definitely leave Cincy for OU. One thing coaches know real well is the height in which they can take a program and the direction that they can trend towards. Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now and the loss of Ridder is going to be a huge f'n blow. It's easily the equivalent of UCF losing Milton.

But, Fickell has turned down big ones before.

(11-29-2021 11:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If I had to use my gut, I'd say Fickell would definitely leave Cincy for OU. One thing coaches know real well is the height in which they can take a program and the direction that they can trend towards. Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now and the loss of Ridder is going to be a huge f'n blow. It's easily the equivalent of UCF losing Milton.

But, Fickell has turned down big ones before.

Except UC has Evan Prater who was one of the highest rated QB's UC has ever signed.

(11-29-2021 11:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  . Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now

???

Actually they can. They just might be in the CFB playoffs.

Here is the list of teams that have been in the playoffs, unless I missed one -

Alabama
Oregon
FSU
OSU
Clemson
Mich St
Oklahoma
Washington
Georgia
Notre Dame
LSU

Besides that, # 4 in the CFB playoff rankings at this stage is pretty darn good.

(11-29-2021 11:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If I had to use my gut, I'd say Fickell would definitely leave Cincy for OU. One thing coaches know real well is the height in which they can take a program and the direction that they can trend towards. Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now and the loss of Ridder is going to be a huge f'n blow. It's easily the equivalent of UCF losing Milton.

But, Fickell has turned down big ones before.

There is another angle though... They were talking on ESPN (radio) last night about the "adjustment" that Lincoln Riley will need to make moving to LA; right now, he can't go anywhere in Norman/OKC without being almost instantly recognized and mobbed. In LA, he will be "just another face in the crowd." He might like that, it might actually be a relief for he and his family to be able to "go out to eat" without people constantly mobbing them.

So here's the converse point: does Luke Fickell and family want to move into "the fishbowl." The OU coach will always be one of the large celebrities in Oklahoma. People will know when you go to McDonalds and what your favorite burger is. People will know where your wife shops and what her preference of personal garments is. When you are winning, people will want to hear your "coaching wisdom," when you lose everybody will want to tell you what play they would have called instead. God forbid, you start losing multiple games: then people will start...doing things...to let you know their displeasure.

If you're in a "small" community...a small(er) State with a passionate fan-base...it's a small echo-chamber. If you're in a larger city or a place with diverse interests, then you get some breathing room. LA is pro-sports city; Lincoln Riley can literally "disappear" into the crowd on Sunday. But, having lived in Morgantown, WV, coaches like Rich Rodriguez, Dana Holgerson, Neal Brown, and Bob Huggins have to retreat behind walls and gates...and when something happens (like Dana Holgerson being in a fender-bender) everybody knows about it.

As for UC's "ceiling"...well, the ceiling is about to go "up" with the move to the Big XII. Maybe not "astronomical," but the Big XII is definitely a "step up" from the g conferences and the AAC.

(11-29-2021 11:31 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I like how people are trying to explain the coaching carousel to UC fans. Guys UC fans were dealing with this going back to the days of Mark Dantonio. UC fans are as adept at this as any fan base in this conference.

Oh UC fans get it for sure.

This is less explaining than it is hoping. Fingers crossed by opposing fan bases.

Im sorry you guys are about to get Brian Kelly'd again

(11-29-2021 11:21 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 10:57 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I do not see a compelling reason for Fickell to leave Cincy for OK, but rumors will persist until he publicly affirms his intent.

He's not leaving Cincy for OU. He may listen to what they have to say but Fickell is going to have a better chance to win a NC with Cincy in the Big XII than going to the SEC.

You're missing the point.

There is a story in politics, commonly attributed to Lyndon B. Johnson, about how LBJ wanted to circulate a rumor attacking his opponent in a Texas election. Johnson, it's said, wanted to spread the story that his opponent liked to have sex with barnyard animals. One of LBJ's aides said, "We can't prove he's a pig f----r."

"I know that," replied Johnson. "I just want to hear him deny it."

(11-29-2021 11:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If I had to use my gut, I'd say Fickell would definitely leave Cincy for OU. One thing coaches know real well is the height in which they can take a program and the direction that they can trend towards. Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now and the loss of Ridder is going to be a huge f'n blow. It's easily the equivalent of UCF losing Milton.

But, Fickell has turned down big ones before.

Hmm, it depends. Money aside, some teams in the B1G and SEC get paid an awful lot of money to stink, if you want to get championships and you are not a monster fish, the best chance of doing that is to be the biggest fish (or smartest) in a just big enough pond to get you to the playoffs regularly.

Think Miami in the Big East vs ACC as an example. I think TX and OU will find that to be the case in the SEC too.

(11-29-2021 12:18 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Im sorry you guys are about to get Brian Kelly'd again

Have they announced the contract extension for Phil Montgomery yet?

I'm hoping for a "Mel Tucker" type deal...say...$35 Million over 10 years? I'm sure you'll be happy together for a long time.

(11-28-2021 09:52 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 09:42 PM)willhclark Wrote:  it's a nasty business.

Unfortunately Cincinnati is not a destination job and never will be.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Ok...76594581_1

Yea, neither is Oklahoma, apparently.

Oklahoma hasn't had a coaching search since 1998. The last time a coach left Oklahoma and coached the next season was in the 1970's. In other words, it's the definition of a destination job.

(11-29-2021 12:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 11:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If I had to use my gut, I'd say Fickell would definitely leave Cincy for OU. One thing coaches know real well is the height in which they can take a program and the direction that they can trend towards. Cincy can't really go any higher than they are right now and the loss of Ridder is going to be a huge f'n blow. It's easily the equivalent of UCF losing Milton.

But, Fickell has turned down big ones before.

There is another angle though... They were talking on ESPN (radio) last night about the "adjustment" that Lincoln Riley will need to make moving to LA; right now, he can't go anywhere in Norman/OKC without being almost instantly recognized and mobbed. In LA, he will be "just another face in the crowd." He might like that, it might actually be a relief for he and his family to be able to "go out to eat" without people constantly mobbing them.

So here's the converse point: does Luke Fickell and family want to move into "the fishbowl." The OU coach will always be one of the large celebrities in Oklahoma. People will know when you go to McDonalds and what your favorite burger is. People will know where your wife shops and what her preference of personal garments is. When you are winning, people will want to hear your "coaching wisdom," when you lose everybody will want to tell you what play they would have called instead. God forbid, you start losing multiple games: then people will start...doing things...to let you know their displeasure.

If you're in a "small" community...a small(er) State with a passionate fan-base...it's a small echo-chamber. If you're in a larger city or a place with diverse interests, then you get some breathing room. LA is pro-sports city; Lincoln Riley can literally "disappear" into the crowd on Sunday. But, having lived in Morgantown, WV, coaches like Rich Rodriguez, Dana Holgerson, Neal Brown, and Bob Huggins have to retreat behind walls and gates...and when something happens (like Dana Holgerson being in a fender-bender) everybody knows about it.

As for UC's "ceiling"...well, the ceiling is about to go "up" with the move to the Big XII. Maybe not "astronomical," but the Big XII is definitely a "step up" from the g conferences and the AAC.

Yep... here's the recruiting class rankings since CLF got here:

2017: #63
2018: # 49
2019: # 66
2020: #41
2021: #45
2022: #30
2023: #12 (very early)

Most of the contributors on the current team are from the 2017-2019 classes. In other words, the best recruits are still underclassmen (or are not even here yet) and if they play to chalk and develop similarly to those in the past they will be better than the guys they currently have. I haven't even factored in some guys UC will be receiving in the transfer portal this cycle.

(11-29-2021 12:46 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 09:52 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 09:42 PM)willhclark Wrote:  it's a nasty business.

Unfortunately Cincinnati is not a destination job and never will be.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Ok...76594581_1

Yea, neither is Oklahoma, apparently.

Oklahoma hasn't had a coaching search since 1998. The last time a coach left Oklahoma and coached the next season was in the 1970's. In other words, it's the definition of a destination job.

But even more recently, their Coach just left for another destination.