(12-07-2021 10:24 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  Wow. Tulsa lots and lots and lots of empty seats. They are down by 9 with about 11 minutes left at home against LMU.

LMU isnt that bad...but the NET doesnt recognize that, a loss will be a q4 loss

Massive W

(12-07-2021 10:26 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Massive W

temple end of regulation stratgegy needs work... but great W..

vandy started fouling witha 1 min to go...temple response was to give up uncontested layups in regards to not fouling them...i was like a min is too much time for that strategy.. you play your base defense and you maybe win by double digts in regualtion

Temple holds on to beat Vandy 72-68. Congrats on the Win!

(12-07-2021 10:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-07-2021 10:26 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Massive W

temple end of regulation stratgegy needs work... but great W..

vandy started fouling witha 1 min to go...temple response was to give up uncontested layups in regards to not fouling them...i was like a min is too much time for that strategy.. you play your base defense and you maybe win by double digts in regualtion

I watched it

tulsa takes a q4 loss to Loyola Marymount... LMU might push it to just a q3 loss by the season's end, i think they are way better than their net says

We are really racking up the scalps as a conference.

(12-07-2021 10:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  temple end of regulation stratgegy needs work... but great W..

Yes - great win for the team, the program, and Coach McKie.

No one expected the Owls to win their next two games after Khalif Battle's season-ending injury. Commentators have called it a character- and confidence-building type of win, and impressive since it was an away game vs. a top-100 ranked SEC team (kenpom.com: #76).

(12-07-2021 10:29 PM)pesik Wrote:  vandy started fouling witha 1 min to go...temple response was to give up uncontested layups in regards to not fouling them...i was like a min is too much time for that strategy.. you play your base defense and you maybe win by double digts in regualtion

That's spot on! That strategy very nearly cost them the game.

The conventional wisdom is not to foul when ahead in the last minute, since that stops the clock, but not fouling allowed this to happen late in the second half:

1:28 Temple was ahead by 9, 50-41
1:09 Vandy layup (50-43)
0:57 Vandy layup (50-45)
0:56 Temple FTs (2) (52-45)
0:53 Vandy layup (52-47)
0:52 Temple FTs (2) (54-47)
0:42 Vandy dunk (54-49)
0:40 Temple made 1 of 2 FTs (55-49)
0:30 Vandy jump shot (55-51)
0:25 Temple made 1 of 2 FTs (56-51)
0:16 Vandy FTs (2) (56-53)
0:13 Temple FTs (2) (58-53)
0:04 Vandy layup (58-55)
0:01 Vandy intentionally missed FT; hit a 3pt shot (58-58: OT)

Total pts scored by Vandy in the last 1:09 of regulation: 17 pts

Total pts scored by Temple in the last 1:09 of regulation: 8 pts

With a 9-pt lead at the 1:09 mark, Temple could have turned it into a foul-shooting contest, and the game never would have gone into OT.

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Still, a great win, and it's significant that they're playing better as a team now, in many respects than they played before Battle's injury.

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(12-07-2021 10:26 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-07-2021 10:24 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  Wow. Tulsa lots and lots and lots of empty seats. They are down by 9 with about 11 minutes left at home against LMU.

LMU isnt that bad...but the NET doesnt recognize that, a loss will be a q4 loss

It would be a q4 loss based on LMU's NET ranking (#231) coming into the game vs. Tulsa when they were 5-3, but the NET isn't considered very reliable this early in the season.

Moreover, the NET has under-ranked a lot of non-P5 teams, and LMU may be one of them, according to kenpom.com and the massey composite rankings, which had (5-3) Loyola ranked #144.

kenpom.com currently has Loyola Marymount (LMU; 6-3) ranked #109.

If LMU finishes between #76 and #160, it will be a 5 pt. q3 loss.

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

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Temple's rankings have improved noticeably after the Vanderbilt game, which is currently considered a Q2 win.

Temple's ranking at kenpom.com has improved from #133 to #122.

https://barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=Amer&year=2022

Temple's ranking at barttorvik.com has improved from #151 to #137.

https://barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=Amer&year=2022

In addition, Torvik's "Teamcast" now predicts that the Owls will finish the regular season with 15 wins, despite losing their top scorer.

https://barttorvik.com/teamcast.php?&team=Temple&year=2022

That suggests the possibility that the team could finish the season above .500.

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Please stop cluttering threads

Please stop cluttering threads

(12-08-2021 01:22 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Please stop cluttering threads

You're doing a disservice to Pesik, who starts these threads for the many AAC basketball fans who are interested.

For me to respond to you would be a further disservice to Pesik and the AAC fans, so I'm not going to respond to any further comments from you, JHG722.

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Now, back to the topic:

After their win @ Vanderbilt, Temple may already be on the CBI selection committee's radar screen, since they have had 15, 16, and 17-win teams in their prior tournaments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_College_Basketball_Invitational

Most AAC teams have declined invitations to play in the CBI, but USF didn't, and it worked out well for them. Temple has a young team that could really benefit from playing in a post-season tournament, much like USF did in 2019.

Prominent programs that have played in recent CBI tournaments have included Coastal Carolina (SBC; 2017/18), DePaul (Big East; 2019), GWU (A10; 2017), Loyola-Chicago (MVC, 2015), Nevada (MWC; 2016), Pittsburgh (ACC; 2012), Toledo (MAC; 2017), North Texas (CUSA; 2018), Oregon St. (PAC-12; 2009), Oregon (2011), San Francisco (WCC; 2017/18), USF (AAC; 2019); VCU (A10; 2010), and West Virginia (Big 12; 2019).

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Thinking ahead a couple of years, with all the CUSA teams joining the conference, it seems to me that the AAC remainers should encourage the teams who can't get a NIT bid to accept bids. to play in the CBI.

If the CBI was good enough for USF and West Virginia, the last time a full NCAA, NIT, and CBI were played, it should be good enough for schools such as Temple, Tulsa or North Texas, if they don't happen to make the NIT.

It benefits the AAC to have teams playing in bowl games and post-season tournaments, partly from the exposure the teams and conference receive, and also from the beneficial effects that playing in post-season games tends to have for most programs.

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Please stop cluttering threads

(12-08-2021 11:07 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Please stop cluttering threads

Ignore list is great

(12-08-2021 11:36 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 11:07 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Please stop cluttering threads

Ignore list is great

Yeah, until he makes another new username

(12-08-2021 02:24 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 11:36 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-08-2021 11:07 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Please stop cluttering threads

Ignore list is great

Yeah, until he makes another new username

couple button clicks fixes that lol

Much better

(12-07-2021 09:59 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  So this is weird.

Houston 8-1
East Carolina 8-2
Cincinnati 7-2
Wichita State 6-2
UCF 5-2
SMU 7-3
Memphis 5-3
Temple 5-3
Tulsa 4-4
South Florida 3-4
Tulane 3-5

Has more to do with ECUs weak schedule the only games against decent teams they lost to Oklahoma and choked against Davidson.

If Tabbs was playing ECU might’ve been legit but sounds like he’s out for the year

(12-08-2021 04:34 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  

(12-07-2021 09:59 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  So this is weird.

Houston 8-1
East Carolina 8-2
Cincinnati 7-2
Wichita State 6-2
UCF 5-2
SMU 7-3
Memphis 5-3
Temple 5-3
Tulsa 4-4
South Florida 3-4
Tulane 3-5

Has more to do with ECUs weak schedule the only games against decent teams they lost to Oklahoma and choked against Davidson.

If Tabbs was playing ECU might’ve been legit but sounds like he’s out for the year

Definitely right on the schedule but right now this program just needs to rack up wins, I don't really care who they're against yet. In past years we probably would've lost another 2-4 of these games. Honestly this team is better without Gardner, offense moves better, guys aren't selfish because there are plenty of opportunities to go around instead of Jayden putting up 25 shots a game.

Trying to curb my enthusiasm for the potential with this team knowing the competition we've played but we've got scoring options all over the roster. It's amazing how hot we can get from the 3 pt line with a number of different guys after struggling so much in years past. The roster got so shaken up last year I think we'll just get better as we gel, our only Achilles heel seems to be on the ball defense and rebounding.