(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

No snaps, but 2016 game notes indicate CoJo was #2 on the depth chart behind Schor at the NDSU game. He should know what to expect there.

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

The cheap-a$$ noise gimmick IMO is the key to the game. If our OL has to resort to winks or nods or holding hands to attempt to snap without false starts the odds are stacked against us. This is a young inexperienced line and could be hampered further by the additional hesitation and miscues in that airplane hanger.

I remember their one D lineman especially, creaming in his pants every time we got a penalty, cause they couldn't beat our line otherwise in 2016. This year's line will be challenged on a level playing field, let alone amidst the wailing of 18,000 heifers and bovines.

(12-12-2021 07:03 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Stats
Scoring Offense: JMU #4 (40.2 ppg); NDSU #11 (34.8 ppg)
Total Offense: JMU #12 (445.5 ypg); NDSU #19 (433 ypg)
Rushing Offense: NDSU #2 (281.3 ypg); JMU #35 (164.1 ypg).
Passing Offense: JMU #16 (281.4 ypg); NDSU #110 (151.7 ypg)

Scoring Defense: NDSU #1 (11.0 ppg); JMU #7 (15.08 ppg)
Total Defense: NDSU #3 (256.2 ypg); JMU #5 (270.3 ypg)
Rushing Defense: NDSU #3 (81.8 ypg); JMU #4 (82.5 ypg)
Passing Defense: NDSU #10 (174.5 ypg); JMU #21 (187.8 ypg)

Tackles for Loss: JMU #2 (110/8.5 per game); NDSU #41 (78/6.0 per game).
Sacks: NDSU #5 (45/3.46 per game); JMU #11 (39/3.0 per game).

Turnover Margin: JMU #1 at +1.62 per game (+21: 31 gained/10 lost); NDSU #28 at +.46 per game (+6: 18 gained/12 lost).

Passing Efficiency
-#1 Cole Johnson, JMU: 245 of 364 (67.5%), 3,569 yds (272.8 ypg); 39 TDs/2 INTs; 176.93 Efficiency.
(Cole Kelley is now #2, Barriere #3)
-NDSU: No QB listed.
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/29

FG %
4th Ethan Ratke, JMU (29 of 32, .906%)
44th Jake Reinholz, NDSU (13 of 18, .722%)
Kick Returns
#1 JMU 29.28 yards per return
#31 NDSU 21.73 yards per return
Kick Return Defense
#8 JMU 15.12 yards per return
#98 NDSU 22.53 yds per return
Punt Returns
#8 NDSU 12.81 yards per return
#76 JMU 6.22 yards per return
Punt Return Defense
#8 JMU 3.71 yards per return.
#33 NDSU 5.85 yards per return.

(12-14-2021 11:44 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

The cheap-a$$ noise gimmick IMO is the key to the game. If our OL has to resort to winks or nods or holding hands to attempt to snap without false starts the odds are stacked against us. This is a young inexperienced line and could be hampered further by the additional hesitation and miscues in that airplane hanger.

I remember their one D lineman especially, creaming in his pants every time we got a penalty, cause they couldn't beat our line otherwise in 2016. This year's line will be challenged on a level playing field, let alone amidst the wailing of 18,000 heifers and bovines.

Cig talked about it in his press conference Saying that he prepped for games in the SEC all the time with loud crowds. I think even he will be surprised how loud the fargodome is and it will be interesting to hear his comments postgame. I agree that the significant homefield afavantage is key in this game. ND State isn’t as good as 2019 and neither is JMU. But they are very closely matched this year and the incredible noise tilts things in favor of the Bison. False starts, defense gets a great jump start on the snap indicator, offense struggles to change plays at the line…
It is likely the loudest venue in all of college football.

Who was the DE that kept jerking his head up to simulate starting his rush? That was the lame move IMO when a team is on a silent snap count. It should have been called a penalty against the defense, but I don’t think they ever did.

(12-15-2021 07:24 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 11:44 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

The cheap-a$$ noise gimmick IMO is the key to the game. If our OL has to resort to winks or nods or holding hands to attempt to snap without false starts the odds are stacked against us. This is a young inexperienced line and could be hampered further by the additional hesitation and miscues in that airplane hanger.

I remember their one D lineman especially, creaming in his pants every time we got a penalty, cause they couldn't beat our line otherwise in 2016. This year's line will be challenged on a level playing field, let alone amidst the wailing of 18,000 heifers and bovines.

Cig talked about it in his press conference Saying that he prepped for games in the SEC all the time with loud crowds. I think even he will be surprised how loud the fargodome is and it will be interesting to hear his comments postgame. I agree that the significant homefield afavantage is key in this game. ND State isn’t as good as 2019 and neither is JMU. But they are very closely matched this year and the incredible noise tilts things in favor of the Bison. False starts, defense gets a great jump start on the snap indicator, offense struggles to change plays at the line…
It is likely the loudest venue in all of college football.

Who was the DE that kept jerking his head up to simulate starting his rush? That was the lame move IMO when a team is on a silent snap count. It should have been called a penalty against the defense, but I don’t think they ever did.

Don't remember the guy's name, but he also did it one time too many, got called for it, which set up Gray's 45 yd FG at a key point in the game.

(12-15-2021 07:24 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 11:44 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

The cheap-a$$ noise gimmick IMO is the key to the game. If our OL has to resort to winks or nods or holding hands to attempt to snap without false starts the odds are stacked against us. This is a young inexperienced line and could be hampered further by the additional hesitation and miscues in that airplane hanger.

I remember their one D lineman especially, creaming in his pants every time we got a penalty, cause they couldn't beat our line otherwise in 2016. This year's line will be challenged on a level playing field, let alone amidst the wailing of 18,000 heifers and bovines.

Cig talked about it in his press conference Saying that he prepped for games in the SEC all the time with loud crowds. I think even he will be surprised how loud the fargodome is and it will be interesting to hear his comments postgame. I agree that the significant homefield afavantage is key in this game. ND State isn’t as good as 2019 and neither is JMU. But they are very closely matched this year and the incredible noise tilts things in favor of the Bison. False starts, defense gets a great jump start on the snap indicator, offense struggles to change plays at the line…
It is likely the loudest venue in all of college football.

Who was the DE that kept jerking his head up to simulate starting his rush? That was the lame move IMO when a team is on a silent snap count. It should have been called a penalty against the defense, but I don’t think they ever did.

The Bison didn't even clear 12K for their game this past Saturday against ETSU. I bet this being the semis and them having a history with JMU will bring out more fans, but that's pretty disappointing for them and suggests interest is waning. I suspect it won't be nearly as loud as it was for the 2016 game.

(12-15-2021 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 07:24 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 11:44 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 10:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:01 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  NDSU open as 5.5 pt favorite.

I thought ND State would be favored by more playing in the FargoDome.
That stadium is worth more than the normal 3pt homefield advantage.

Thinking of JMU’s last game there in 2016, the clap snap couldn’t be used because of deafening crowd noise.
Will Cojo be on a silent snap count with the guard tapping the center to initiate a snap? Come to think of that, has Cojo ever played a game in a loud environment? I don’t think so. Maybe a couple of snaps against WVU or NC State, but no real game experience. We’ll see if he can handle it with poise.

The cheap-a$$ noise gimmick IMO is the key to the game. If our OL has to resort to winks or nods or holding hands to attempt to snap without false starts the odds are stacked against us. This is a young inexperienced line and could be hampered further by the additional hesitation and miscues in that airplane hanger.

I remember their one D lineman especially, creaming in his pants every time we got a penalty, cause they couldn't beat our line otherwise in 2016. This year's line will be challenged on a level playing field, let alone amidst the wailing of 18,000 heifers and bovines.

Cig talked about it in his press conference Saying that he prepped for games in the SEC all the time with loud crowds. I think even he will be surprised how loud the fargodome is and it will be interesting to hear his comments postgame. I agree that the significant homefield afavantage is key in this game. ND State isn’t as good as 2019 and neither is JMU. But they are very closely matched this year and the incredible noise tilts things in favor of the Bison. False starts, defense gets a great jump start on the snap indicator, offense struggles to change plays at the line…
It is likely the loudest venue in all of college football.

Who was the DE that kept jerking his head up to simulate starting his rush? That was the lame move IMO when a team is on a silent snap count. It should have been called a penalty against the defense, but I don’t think they ever did.

The Bison didn't even clear 12K for their game this past Saturday against ETSU. I bet this being the semis and them having a history with JMU will bring out more fans, but that's pretty disappointing for them and suggests interest is waning. I suspect it won't be nearly as loud as it was for the 2016 game.

Plus, if we can take the crowd out of the game early, that would definitely make it much easier in there.

To be honest, the Montana game made me more nervous. Yeah, not being at home sucks... I just think the 'X' factor that no one is really overlooking (though not looking at enough) is our defense. I think they step up big time in this game and wouldn't surprise me if we win the TO margin +2. The key here is staying off of the field. 3 and outs are going to be super important in this game. Fresher of the two defenses late in this game will probably determine the victor. That, and our wide outs against a gassed NDSU team would make for fun TV.

Cignetti > Entz

(12-15-2021 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  The Bison didn't even clear 12K for their game this past Saturday against ETSU. I bet this being the semis and them having a history with JMU will bring out more fans, but that's pretty disappointing for them and suggests interest is waning. I suspect it won't be nearly as loud as it was for the 2016 game.

I wouldn't count on this, most of the seats look sold to me (much more than 12k), and the fargo dome gets very loud.

I hope CoJo or others have been able to convey what it will be like there. Cigs comments worry me a little, I'm not sure he understands just how loud that place is inside. It may be the highest decibel levels of any D1 stadium, or at least close.

(12-15-2021 12:11 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  The Bison didn't even clear 12K for their game this past Saturday against ETSU. I bet this being the semis and them having a history with JMU will bring out more fans, but that's pretty disappointing for them and suggests interest is waning. I suspect it won't be nearly as loud as it was for the 2016 game.

I wouldn't count on this, most of the seats look sold to me (much more than 12k), and the fargo dome gets very loud.

I hope CoJo or others have been able to convey what it will be like there. Cigs comments worry me a little, I'm not sure he understands just how loud that place is inside. It may be the highest decibel levels of any D1 stadium, or at least close.

starting to understand Cig a little bit more I think.........he's just a "show absolutely no fear" kind of guy. Low on killing other teams with kindness. Brass tacks and a bit cocky - but I'd think (and truly hope) that behind the scenes they are ruthlessly strategic and prepared

Cig wants this game, he/staff are probably working around the clock, what they have strategy/prep is what we will see.

If Cig gets beat in Fargo, the 32 - 4 or whatever the record is means spit, he is the JMU football coach that did not when a fcs NC and 1) that sucks and 2) it turns up the heat for his early years in the SBC to show he is the guy to continue winning at the G5 fbs level

According to this ETSU article, fargo dome has been measured up to 115 decibel. They practiced silent counts and hand signals.

https://www.timesnews.net/sports/bucs-pr...e9925.html

115db is comparable to Michigan or Florida's stadiums.

(12-15-2021 11:29 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  Cignetti > Entz

Definitely not in 2019

(12-15-2021 12:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 11:29 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  Cignetti > Entz

Definitely not in 2019

Trey Lance helped him out.

(12-15-2021 12:32 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  According to this ETSU article, fargo dome has been measured up to 115 decibel. They practiced silent counts and hand signals.

https://www.timesnews.net/sports/bucs-pr...e9925.html

115db is comparable to Michigan or Florida's stadiums.

I doubt UM/Florida or any venue gets that loud, and if they ever do it's probably at peak moments/reactions (the sudden roar of the crowd). There's no way it's sustained as long. The lack of sound-absorbing materials in that tin barn reverberates every howl and moo, the fans know it and take full advantage.

Great to practice with noise pumped in, but they can't rely on ANY players hearing each other, especially in the first few series. If the crowd sees the noise is getting to the team, they'll continue the whole game.

(12-15-2021 12:52 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 12:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 11:29 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  Cignetti > Entz

Definitely not in 2019

Trey Lance helped him out.

Lance's legs was the only advantage they had.

(12-15-2021 01:20 PM)2Buck Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 12:32 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  According to this ETSU article, fargo dome has been measured up to 115 decibel. They practiced silent counts and hand signals.

https://www.timesnews.net/sports/bucs-pr...e9925.html

115db is comparable to Michigan or Florida's stadiums.

I doubt UM/Florida or any venue gets that loud, and if they ever do it's probably at peak moments/reactions (the sudden roar of the crowd). There's no way it's sustained as long. The lack of sound-absorbing materials in that tin barn reverberates every howl and moo, the fans know it and take full advantage.

Great to practice with noise pumped in, but they can't rely on ANY players hearing each other, especially in the first few series. If the crowd sees the noise is getting to the team, they'll continue the whole game.

It seems like our offense doesn't rely too much on verbals. Even with Cole's "clapping/non-clapping", it seems to be based more on the visual than the sound of the clap.
I may be way off, but I feel like this offense is better equipped to deal with noise than
2016.

(12-15-2021 02:10 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  FG %
4th Ethan Ratke, JMU (29 of 32, .906%)
44th Jake Reinholz, NDSU (13 of 18, .722%)
Kick Returns
#1 JMU 29.28 yards per return
#31 NDSU 21.73 yards per return
Kick Return Defense
#8 JMU 15.12 yards per return
#98 NDSU 22.53 yds per return
Punt Returns
#8 NDSU 12.81 yards per return
#76 JMU 6.22 yards per return
Punt Return Defense
#8 JMU 3.71 yards per return.
#33 NDSU 5.85 yards per return.

Someone on the board, I'm not sure who, really hates our lack of dazzling punt returns. Personally, I don't care -- he doesn't fumble, so that's good enough. We have great punt coverage, superior kicking accuracy, and plenty of touchbacks. On a team with a great defense and a great offense, field position isn't much of a concern, and so the yards involved in punt returns really fall in priority to ball security.