Wonder if this Fridays game at Towson will be postponed?

Brian

(12-28-2021 06:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 12:40 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 12:22 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Does any of it make any sense anymore?

X - Vaccination 1st dose
X - Vaccination 2nd dose
X - Booster shot
X - previously positive

Makes sense to me.
Getting vaccinated doesn't mean you can't get Covid. It means you won't get as sick from it and more importantly save your life.

Doesn’t make sense if we are to believe what the “experts” told us for so long. Vaccines were supposed to keep you immune, and having it once was supposed to be it, but now it’s just to ease the symptoms when you do get it and possibly get it again?!

No. There’s no vaccine that’s 100% effective, and none of the COVID vaccines were initially pitched that way when first released.

When Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines were released their efficacy was initially rated at 93-95%, and subsequent tracking showed their protection against contracting the virus diminished over time, hence the need for a booster. Neither was the idea that people became immune after contracting the virus a proven fact. Any suggestion that contracting the virus ONCE would impart permanent immunity is as misguided as the idea that catching a cold or flu virus protects you from catching any future colds or flu bugs.

People aren’t comfortable with uncertainty, which is understandable. Understanding the virus, however, is a moving target. As health experts and related scientists learn more about the virus their advice on how to best fight the disease will undoubtedly change. It’s frustrating and often a slow process (with missteps along the way), but that’s how science works.

I agree with suggestions that COVID will never go away, and that annual or biannual vaccines to protect us will become the norm. Hopefully effective treatments for children will soon help calm the highs and lows of the virus’ spread.

(12-28-2021 11:34 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 06:30 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 12:40 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 12:22 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  Does any of it make any sense anymore?

X - Vaccination 1st dose
X - Vaccination 2nd dose
X - Booster shot
X - previously positive

Makes sense to me.
Getting vaccinated doesn't mean you can't get Covid. It means you won't get as sick from it and more importantly save your life.

Doesn’t make sense if we are to believe what the “experts” told us for so long. Vaccines were supposed to keep you immune, and having it once was supposed to be it, but now it’s just to ease the symptoms when you do get it and possibly get it again?!

No. There’s no vaccine that’s 100% effective, and none of the COVID vaccines were initially pitched that way when first released.

When Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines were released their efficacy was initially rated at 93-95%, and subsequent tracking showed their protection against contracting the virus diminished over time, hence the need for a booster. Neither was the idea that people became immune after contracting the virus a proven fact. Any suggestion that contracting the virus ONCE would impart permanent immunity is as misguided as the idea that catching a cold or flu virus protects you from catching any future colds or flu bugs.

People aren’t comfortable with uncertainty, which is understandable. Understanding the virus, however, is a moving target. As health experts and related scientists learn more about the virus their advice on how to best fight the disease will undoubtedly change. It’s frustrating and often a slow process (with missteps along the way), but that’s how science works.

I agree with suggestions that COVID will never go away, and that annual or biannual vaccines to protect us will become the norm. Hopefully effective treatments for children will soon help calm the highs and lows of the virus’ spread.

Yeah, it's weird how people broadly misunderstand vaccines. Current vaccines for RNA viruses aren't intended to "keep you immune". Vaccinating against DNA viruses (e.g., smallpox, chickenpox) is relatively simple. Those viruses typically mutate slowly and vaccines tend to last a very long time while remaining effective in preventing infection. Vaccinating against RNA viruses (e.g., COVID, Flu, HIV) is much, much more complicated. RNA viruses mutate quickly and vaccine effectiveness wanes over time.

The COVID vaccine is really akin to a flu shot. It may prevent infection, but typically does prevent serious illness. Also, the effectiveness wears off over time and and requires periodic additional shots to boost immunity and deal with new variants. I'm not sure why people expected COVID to be easier to vaccinate against than all other RNA viruses, but here we are.

(12-29-2021 12:30 AM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  I'm not sure why people expected COVID to be easier to vaccinate against than all other RNA viruses, but here we are.

Because that what the “experts” told us. Take the vaccine and we would be ok, now we’ve come to accept just being less sick is ok yet most are not able to decline out of their own free will.

(12-29-2021 07:52 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 12:30 AM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  I'm not sure why people expected COVID to be easier to vaccinate against than all other RNA viruses, but here we are.

Because that what the “experts” told us. Take the vaccine and we would be ok, now we’ve come to accept just being less sick is ok yet most are not able to decline out of their own free will.

What "experts" are you specifically referring to?
Taking the vaccine does make you okay, which is why hospitals aren't going over capacity like they were when there was no vaccine. A very oversimplified example would be like saying wearing a seatbelt prevents you from having an accident. It doesn't prevent you from having an accident, but it most certainly prevents you from dying in that accident. Yes, you can still die if you wear a seatbelt, but your chances go down in a huge way.
Just like any new disease, when it is introduced into the population, the body doesn't know what to do and the disease has free reign over the body, which can lead to death.
The purpose of a vaccine is to teach the body about the virus, so when it is introduced, the body actually knows what to do with it. When people that are not vaccinated get the virus, their body doesn't know what to do with it. For some people, the body may figure it out, but for some the virus gets out of control and kills them.
There is no such thing as a bacteria or virus making contact with the body and immediately going away. If the disease is able spreadable, which Covid is VERY spreadable, it will spread even if the body controls it.

(12-29-2021 09:14 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 07:52 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 12:30 AM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  I'm not sure why people expected COVID to be easier to vaccinate against than all other RNA viruses, but here we are.

Because that what the “experts” told us. Take the vaccine and we would be ok, now we’ve come to accept just being less sick is ok yet most are not able to decline out of their own free will.

What "experts" are you specifically referring to?

Jmad03 could not have explained it any better. The hack piece is there to create confusion for those looking for it .

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since when is Bill Gates a medical expert?

Beware the media you consume folks. Let's keep this sports related. Nobody here is a medical expert that I am aware of, and last time I checked science is an ongoing process.

If there’s been one thing constant throughout this pandemic, it’s that whatever is true today may not be true tomorrow. We’re all learning on the fly here, so I don’t blame anyone for being wrong at some point. What we have to do is adapt and not be so stubborn as to ignore new information. It sucks because we can’t settle into a routine and have a fully predictable life, but that’s the way things are right now.

(12-29-2021 02:54 PM)Dignan Wrote:  If there’s been one thing constant throughout this pandemic, it’s that whatever is true today may not be true tomorrow. We’re all learning on the fly here, so I don’t blame anyone for being wrong at some point. What we have to do is adapt and not be so stubborn as to ignore new information. It sucks because we can’t settle into a routine and have a fully predictable life, but that’s the way things are right now.

Yep. Spot on. Get vaccinated, wear your masks, and let’s hope the health experts will help us get past this difficult time asap. We’ve lost too many people already.

The Towson game has been postponed to January 31st.

Add Towson to the list of PPD games. The CAA can't keep up with the times.

(12-29-2021 03:05 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Add Towson to the list of PPD games. The CAA can't keep up with the times.

Under new CAA forfeit rules a team must play if they have 7 healthy players and at least one coach. Does this latest development mean (that at this time) JMU isn’t able to muster the minimums necessary to play?

(12-29-2021 03:11 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 03:05 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Add Towson to the list of PPD games. The CAA can't keep up with the times.

Under new CAA forfeit rules a team must play if they have 7 healthy players and at least one coach. Does this latest development mean (that at this time) JMU isn’t able to muster the minimums necessary to play?

First it sounds like this probably ripped through the whole team this time and therefore we don't have enough players. I am guessing the 7 players in the rule are scholarship players or else it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If all or most of the team has Covid this is not the worst thing for the rest of the season (as long as everyone has mild illness) as they would be unlikely to get sick again in the next few months.

Second considering the CDC has said 5 days plus 5 days in masks it is essentially the same as the current 10-day quarantine for the purposes of playing basketball.

My guess and hope is that by next basketball season Covid will be considered endemic in the US and all of this testing in sports and in general will no longer be needed and it will be treated like the flu and testing will only be done if someone is actually ill.

(12-29-2021 04:36 PM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 03:11 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 03:05 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  Add Towson to the list of PPD games. The CAA can't keep up with the times.

Under new CAA forfeit rules a team must play if they have 7 healthy players and at least one coach. Does this latest development mean (that at this time) JMU isn’t able to muster the minimums necessary to play?

First it sounds like this probably ripped through the whole team this time and therefore we don't have enough players. I am guessing the 7 players in the rule are scholarship players or else it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If all or most of the team has Covid this is not the worst thing for the rest of the season (as long as everyone has mild illness) as they would be unlikely to get sick again in the next few months.

Second considering the CDC has said 5 days plus 5 days in masks it is essentially the same as the current 10-day quarantine for the purposes of playing basketball.

My guess and hope is that by next basketball season Covid will be considered endemic in the US and all of this testing in sports and in general will no longer be needed and it will be treated like the flu and testing will only be done if someone is actually ill.

Covid has been endemic for over a year. I dont see exit ramps from any of our public health officials.

(12-29-2021 11:08 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  since when is Bill Gates a medical expert?

Beware the media you consume folks. Let's keep this sports related. Nobody here is a medical expert that I am aware of, and last time I checked science is an ongoing process.

Bill Gates is also the biggest farmer in the United States, so he has that going for him...

(12-30-2021 02:36 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 11:08 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  since when is Bill Gates a medical expert?

Beware the media you consume folks. Let's keep this sports related. Nobody here is a medical expert that I am aware of, and last time I checked science is an ongoing process.

Bill Gates is also the biggest farmer in the United States, so he has that going for him...

He’s by far the worlds largest private contributor to the World Health Organization, and second only to the US government, he certainly has experience and tremendous influence. Also, Dr. Fauci, has been running NIAID for 37 years, he shouldn’t be stumbling through this the past 2 years and figuring things out on the fly. If he’s not an authority on this, and Dr. Walensky of the CDC isn’t either, then who is?

Some lab folks in Wuhan city, Hubei province that I got blasted for suggesting 2+ years ago.

Told I should read the Breeze, *giggles* even though I work with these people over there everyday. Lol

We all know what’s up, they DEFINITELY know what’s up and what took place.
Twern’t a “bat virus”, nor an anteater.
Yet we’ll just let it go cause a lot of people are making a lot of money on this. Esp DC types and K street.

K

If we want to make change in a greater percentage of peoples lives, let’s attack obesity. Per an article by the Associated Press, two-thirds of the children that have recently been admitted to Philadelphia’s children Hospital due to Covid have an underlying health condition, most commonly that condition is obesity.

I am not into judging people and how it is problem, like most things there are a multitude of reasons.

Get vaccinated and New Years is a great time to make some health improvements.

Dukesfan71
Self appointed sports and health expert.

Charlotte has stated they will have games with no fans. First school in NC to go that direction this season.

Get Vax. Lost three friends, all unvaxed. One died in his recliner waiting for test results. He was just 53, found by his teenage daughter. My 90 year old mom got Covid in a nursing home and did great. She was vaxed up.

We are over 3.5 billion people vaccinated in the world. We have data, they aren't 100%. But 9 out of 10 hospitalized are unvaxed. With the new variant we're probably under reported. My daughter and boyfriend are currently sick, tested positive with a Rapid test, but aren't being reported. Stay safe in the New Year.