(12-27-2021 09:29 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:23 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I’m hearing a big problem is the team’s payout is predicated on ticket sales. So payouts will be reduced. Would it be profitable to travel to El Paso?

The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Why would the AAC be responsible for the ACC canceling games? Makes no sense.

From what I understand, the ACC teams that canceled nor the bowl will be required to reimburse ECU or Memphis that had spent the money to travel to the game. If the AAC gets to determine member payouts for bowl appearances, the least they can do is split the pot to assure that Memphis and ECU are compensated for their travel expenses.

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(12-27-2021 09:29 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:23 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I’m hearing a big problem is the team’s payout is predicated on ticket sales. So payouts will be reduced. Would it be profitable to travel to El Paso?

The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Why would the AAC be responsible for the ACC canceling games? Makes no sense.

Because I'm not sure how the AAC has a claim on the "ACC side" of the bowl agreement. It's not like these ACC teams are willfully canceling, they are canceling because of the virus, which is an 'act of God' kind of situation.

The issue therefore is how the AAC distributes its bowl revenues, and reimbursing ECU and Memphis and SMU is a reasonable thing for the conference to do.

It looks like the Sun Bowl is attempting to find a replacement. This will be the first non-AAC bowl to cancel if they don't find a replacement. All 3 of the currently canceled bowls are AAC games.

At this rate the AAC could go undefeated in bowls season.
2 (wins) - 0 (losses) - 3 (canceled)

Games Remaining as of 12/27
Houston vs Auburn
Cincy vs Alabama

Boise State just backed out of the Arizona Bowl. Looks like CMU (about 4 hours away) is going to be the opponent now for the Sun Bowl.

All these cancellations just helps the line that most bowls are obsolete. They are part of an old system that is only purpose was to prop the economies of cities and towns by having fans spend big money on meaningless exhibition games.
It used to be held in tourist towns but then it got out of control and locations weren’t even good fan travel locations.

Covid, transfer portal, players opting out, greed and now playoffs will be their end. They really are made for tv events to fill ESPN schedule

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:23 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:19 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Seems stupid. Go and get paid or go home and don't get paid

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I’m hearing a big problem is the team’s payout is predicated on ticket sales. So payouts will be reduced. Would it be profitable to travel to El Paso?

The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:23 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I’m hearing a big problem is the team’s payout is predicated on ticket sales. So payouts will be reduced. Would it be profitable to travel to El Paso?

The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

(12-27-2021 07:02 PM)namssa Wrote:  Boise State just backed out of the Arizona Bowl. Looks like CMU (about 4 hours away) is going to be the opponent now for the Sun Bowl.

I'm sure the MAC would love to move CMU from a tiny bowl being shown only on Barstool.com's website to a venerable bowl broadcast nationally on CBS, but they will likely first have to give the Arizona Bowl a chance to find a replacement for Boise before they do that.

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

The last statement is really the problem. I understand that the money will be shared equally, but that is really not the point. Funny, how it has been all AAC teams.

Guys on the Realignment board are reporting that CMU is replacing Miami in the Sun Bowl.

(12-27-2021 07:53 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

The last statement is really the problem. I understand that the money will be shared equally, but that is really not the point. Funny, how it has been all AAC teams.

Well, if it makes us feel better, the MW will lose its share of the Hawaii Bowl, and the ACC will get hit with lost payouts from the Military and Fenway Bowls.

The MW is also losing its payout from the Arizona Bowl as well, and the SEC is losing its payout from the Gator Bowl.

We just happen to be getting hit the hardest.

(12-27-2021 08:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:53 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

The last statement is really the problem. I understand that the money will be shared equally, but that is really not the point. Funny, how it has been all AAC teams.

Well, if it makes us feel better, the MW will lose its share of the Hawaii Bowl, and the ACC will get hit with lost payouts from the Military and Fenway Bowls.

The MW is also losing its payout from the Arizona Bowl as well, and the SEC is losing its payout from the Gator Bowl.

We just happen to be getting hit the hardest.

Is the Gator bowl money changed? I would not have thought that. How much did it change?

(12-27-2021 08:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 08:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:53 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

The last statement is really the problem. I understand that the money will be shared equally, but that is really not the point. Funny, how it has been all AAC teams.

Well, if it makes us feel better, the MW will lose its share of the Hawaii Bowl, and the ACC will get hit with lost payouts from the Military and Fenway Bowls.

The MW is also losing its payout from the Arizona Bowl as well, and the SEC is losing its payout from the Gator Bowl.

We just happen to be getting hit the hardest.

Is the Gator bowl money changed? I would not have thought that. How much did it change?

I don't know if the Gator Bowl money has changed, I do recall that when Rutgers took Texas AM's slot, the bowl director said the payout might be "reworked", whether that has happened or not I do not know. But even if the money changes, the SEC will not get any of it, so they are losing that payout.

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:17 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 10:15 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 09:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 08:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The other thing is, IIRC, teams do not receive bowl payouts. Those go to the conferences, who then distribute the money.

Bowl payouts are conference revenue, not direct school revenue.

AAC better make sure Memphis and ECU are taken care of since they spent the money to travel.

That would seem reasonable, especially since the AAC is getting $6 million for Cincy's playoff appearance alone.

Sure. Let's take the money that would have gone to teams that did not represent in the bowls.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

Quite a difference in staying home and getting a lesser payout versus incurring the cost while getting a lesser payout.

(12-28-2021 09:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 08:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 08:20 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:53 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 07:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Maybe I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, the AAC socializes its bowl payouts, like most conferences do. Meaning, the money goes in to one big kitty, and everyone gets a more or less equal share, regardless of whether they played or not. Sure, there might be some variation, some teams might get larger travel stipends if they are traveling longer distances, but the basic principle is share and share alike.

Since these canceled games represent a loss to the conference as a whole, all of us are going to suffer in that our share of bowl money will be lower as a result.

The last statement is really the problem. I understand that the money will be shared equally, but that is really not the point. Funny, how it has been all AAC teams.

Well, if it makes us feel better, the MW will lose its share of the Hawaii Bowl, and the ACC will get hit with lost payouts from the Military and Fenway Bowls.

The MW is also losing its payout from the Arizona Bowl as well, and the SEC is losing its payout from the Gator Bowl.

We just happen to be getting hit the hardest.

Is the Gator bowl money changed? I would not have thought that. How much did it change?

I don't know if the Gator Bowl money has changed, I do recall that when Rutgers took Texas AM's slot, the bowl director said the payout might be "reworked", whether that has happened or not I do not know. But even if the money changes, the SEC will not get any of it, so they are losing that payout.

Having a 5-7 from the Big in this bowl, and money is not going to be changed. Yet AAC teams are left without a chance to play. Dam, I feel sorry for the SEC.