(02-03-2022 04:25 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:14 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The heads up was for you and I know you love Keatts and Siddle so being objective is pretty tough for you . I never like Keatts here and even less now and I think they should cut bait right now but hey they will do it the State way and run it straight into the toilet first . As far as UNCW goes ,I have been ti 2 games this year -Guilford and Northeastern and I have to say the team has made huge improvements in all areas . Trask was alive and well at the NE with the student section packed . I like Siddle and the team is playing great .
Is there anything else ?

Look. This is nuts. Was he a perfect coach here? No. Was/is anyone a perfect coach? No. Did he win a LOT of games and championships while he was here? Yes.

Keatts had his faults here, mostly a stubbornness with his coaching strategy and NEVER adjusting, so when we got beat (rarely), we really got it. Was it worth ever saying we didn't like him here? Nope.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a number of things that I DID NOT like about how he left. I'll never deny that he was a darn good coach at UNCW though. That's not even debatable, considering the 10 years before he showed up. I always thought him going to NCSU was a mistake though, considering the delusion of that school and their fan base with expectations. However, he really hasn't done himself any favors there by being less than successful while the historically, dominant teams in the ACC aren't as good. I'm pretty convinced he'll be looking for another job either this summer or sometime next season. He's almost at the end of the NCSU rope, and I'm honestly surprised they've given him this long. I do think NCSU's reasoning for that is based on the scandal Bricks mentioned with Smith.

Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

(02-03-2022 04:46 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:25 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:14 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The heads up was for you and I know you love Keatts and Siddle so being objective is pretty tough for you . I never like Keatts here and even less now and I think they should cut bait right now but hey they will do it the State way and run it straight into the toilet first . As far as UNCW goes ,I have been ti 2 games this year -Guilford and Northeastern and I have to say the team has made huge improvements in all areas . Trask was alive and well at the NE with the student section packed . I like Siddle and the team is playing great .
Is there anything else ?

Look. This is nuts. Was he a perfect coach here? No. Was/is anyone a perfect coach? No. Did he win a LOT of games and championships while he was here? Yes.

Keatts had his faults here, mostly a stubbornness with his coaching strategy and NEVER adjusting, so when we got beat (rarely), we really got it. Was it worth ever saying we didn't like him here? Nope.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a number of things that I DID NOT like about how he left. I'll never deny that he was a darn good coach at UNCW though. That's not even debatable, considering the 10 years before he showed up. I always thought him going to NCSU was a mistake though, considering the delusion of that school and their fan base with expectations. However, he really hasn't done himself any favors there by being less than successful while the historically, dominant teams in the ACC aren't as good. I'm pretty convinced he'll be looking for another job either this summer or sometime next season. He's almost at the end of the NCSU rope, and I'm honestly surprised they've given him this long. I do think NCSU's reasoning for that is based on the scandal Bricks mentioned with Smith.

Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

Yep, lol. Hell, another year or two of quality success at UNCW and programs MUCH BETTER than NCSU would have been banging his door down, and likely with less expectations. He bought the first shiny car the dealer walked him out to.

(02-03-2022 05:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:46 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:25 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:14 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The heads up was for you and I know you love Keatts and Siddle so being objective is pretty tough for you . I never like Keatts here and even less now and I think they should cut bait right now but hey they will do it the State way and run it straight into the toilet first . As far as UNCW goes ,I have been ti 2 games this year -Guilford and Northeastern and I have to say the team has made huge improvements in all areas . Trask was alive and well at the NE with the student section packed . I like Siddle and the team is playing great .
Is there anything else ?

Look. This is nuts. Was he a perfect coach here? No. Was/is anyone a perfect coach? No. Did he win a LOT of games and championships while he was here? Yes.

Keatts had his faults here, mostly a stubbornness with his coaching strategy and NEVER adjusting, so when we got beat (rarely), we really got it. Was it worth ever saying we didn't like him here? Nope.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a number of things that I DID NOT like about how he left. I'll never deny that he was a darn good coach at UNCW though. That's not even debatable, considering the 10 years before he showed up. I always thought him going to NCSU was a mistake though, considering the delusion of that school and their fan base with expectations. However, he really hasn't done himself any favors there by being less than successful while the historically, dominant teams in the ACC aren't as good. I'm pretty convinced he'll be looking for another job either this summer or sometime next season. He's almost at the end of the NCSU rope, and I'm honestly surprised they've given him this long. I do think NCSU's reasoning for that is based on the scandal Bricks mentioned with Smith.

Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

Yep, lol. Hell, another year or two of quality success at UNCW and programs MUCH BETTER than NCSU would have been banging his door down, and likely with less expectations. He bought the first shiny car the dealer walked him out to.

He could've waited three weeks and Georgetown was available. Leaving after three years is still one of the big 'what ifs' for me. I was excited about the class that he had coming in.

(02-03-2022 05:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 05:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:46 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:25 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:14 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  The heads up was for you and I know you love Keatts and Siddle so being objective is pretty tough for you . I never like Keatts here and even less now and I think they should cut bait right now but hey they will do it the State way and run it straight into the toilet first . As far as UNCW goes ,I have been ti 2 games this year -Guilford and Northeastern and I have to say the team has made huge improvements in all areas . Trask was alive and well at the NE with the student section packed . I like Siddle and the team is playing great .
Is there anything else ?

Look. This is nuts. Was he a perfect coach here? No. Was/is anyone a perfect coach? No. Did he win a LOT of games and championships while he was here? Yes.

Keatts had his faults here, mostly a stubbornness with his coaching strategy and NEVER adjusting, so when we got beat (rarely), we really got it. Was it worth ever saying we didn't like him here? Nope.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a number of things that I DID NOT like about how he left. I'll never deny that he was a darn good coach at UNCW though. That's not even debatable, considering the 10 years before he showed up. I always thought him going to NCSU was a mistake though, considering the delusion of that school and their fan base with expectations. However, he really hasn't done himself any favors there by being less than successful while the historically, dominant teams in the ACC aren't as good. I'm pretty convinced he'll be looking for another job either this summer or sometime next season. He's almost at the end of the NCSU rope, and I'm honestly surprised they've given him this long. I do think NCSU's reasoning for that is based on the scandal Bricks mentioned with Smith.

Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

Yep, lol. Hell, another year or two of quality success at UNCW and programs MUCH BETTER than NCSU would have been banging his door down, and likely with less expectations. He bought the first shiny car the dealer walked him out to.

He could've waited three weeks and Georgetown was available. Leaving after three years is still one of the big 'what ifs' for me. I was excited about the class that he had coming in.

Agree.....

I didn't intend for this to be a crap on KK thread. Merely wanted to compare the differences between our coach and his mentor.

(02-03-2022 06:31 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 05:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 05:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:46 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:25 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  Look. This is nuts. Was he a perfect coach here? No. Was/is anyone a perfect coach? No. Did he win a LOT of games and championships while he was here? Yes.

Keatts had his faults here, mostly a stubbornness with his coaching strategy and NEVER adjusting, so when we got beat (rarely), we really got it. Was it worth ever saying we didn't like him here? Nope.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a number of things that I DID NOT like about how he left. I'll never deny that he was a darn good coach at UNCW though. That's not even debatable, considering the 10 years before he showed up. I always thought him going to NCSU was a mistake though, considering the delusion of that school and their fan base with expectations. However, he really hasn't done himself any favors there by being less than successful while the historically, dominant teams in the ACC aren't as good. I'm pretty convinced he'll be looking for another job either this summer or sometime next season. He's almost at the end of the NCSU rope, and I'm honestly surprised they've given him this long. I do think NCSU's reasoning for that is based on the scandal Bricks mentioned with Smith.

Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

Yep, lol. Hell, another year or two of quality success at UNCW and programs MUCH BETTER than NCSU would have been banging his door down, and likely with less expectations. He bought the first shiny car the dealer walked him out to.

He could've waited three weeks and Georgetown was available. Leaving after three years is still one of the big 'what ifs' for me. I was excited about the class that he had coming in.

Agree.....

I didn't intend for this to be a crap on KK thread. Merely wanted to compare the differences between our coach and his mentor.

I liked Coach Keatts quite a bit. I thought hiring Siddle back then would have been the thing to do, just for continuity sake. We may well have kept all or most that class.

Coach McGrath had a completely different vision, and was just a fish out of water in mid major world.

(02-03-2022 07:02 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 06:31 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 05:10 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 05:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 04:46 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Hah! Looks like we were thinking and writing the same things at the same time.

A Big 12 job, with lots of money and reasonable expectations would have been better. Shaka Smart turned down jobs, waited for Texas $$$ and got a bunch of years there. He never got them where they wanted to go, but at least he didn't have to go through Coack K and others to get there.

Yep, lol. Hell, another year or two of quality success at UNCW and programs MUCH BETTER than NCSU would have been banging his door down, and likely with less expectations. He bought the first shiny car the dealer walked him out to.

He could've waited three weeks and Georgetown was available. Leaving after three years is still one of the big 'what ifs' for me. I was excited about the class that he had coming in.

Agree.....

I didn't intend for this to be a crap on KK thread. Merely wanted to compare the differences between our coach and his mentor.

I liked Coach Keatts quite a bit. I thought hiring Siddle back then would have been the thing to do, just for continuity sake. We may well have kept all or most that class.

Coach McGrath had a completely different vision, and was just a fish out of water in mid major world.

Agree. There wasn’t much showing that the rest of the CAA had figured out how to compete with Keatts. Dude won us a lot of games, and I’m thankful for it.


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Great defense by Harvey there.


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Fornes reached there. All he has to do is stand there and let their big use his body and charge. That dude initiates every bit of contact.


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My bad. Wrong thread. Lol


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