(03-17-2022 06:31 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 09:57 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I realize it’s not this simple, but Hayes, Gibson plus a shooter would be perfect.

Don't tell a few of the folks here that...those are Keatts guys. 100% eliminates them from being able to be meaningful pieces in Wilmington.

I'm not sure I know what this means. Most people on this board appreciate all that Keatts did for UNCW. Some have soured because the way he left, but I don't recall a single poster being critical of his three year production.

Plenty, myself included, have commented on his performance as the HC at NCSU. He's lucky to have another year to prove himself, but there are a lot of questions for Keatts and NCSU basketball next year.

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:13 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Post players are guys who score in the post, not outside jumpers at three's. Kelly, Samb and McGriff are post players. I've said it multiple times and it's played out. We are not going to be heavy on players who can't score outside. My bet is we bring on one more "post player" and the rest will be wings/guards who can score outside. That's what a four guard offense is.

We need another post player and it needs to be an impact guy. We got away with it this year and ultimately our lack of size killed us in the biggest game of the year . Running a 4 guard lineup doesn’t make as much sense when you don’t press


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Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  We need another post player and it needs to be an impact guy. We got away with it this year and ultimately our lack of size killed us in the biggest game of the year . Running a 4 guard lineup doesn’t make as much sense when you don’t press


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Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

Sure, we definitely need size. I agree there. The way you phrased the previous response seemed to be really dismissive of the season we just had, that's all.

(03-17-2022 07:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

Sure, we definitely need size. I agree there. The way you phrased the previous response seemed to be really dismissive of the season we just had, that's all.

That's fair, that wasn't my intent. My intent was if we want to keep doing the same thing and not address weaknesses we'd be happy with settling for a participation trophy. Coach was very good about making in game adjustments this year, so, My hope is he's able to recognize what worked and what didn't and address accordingly. The "well this is how we play" attitude of some here is what has gotten Keatts in trouble at State. Have to be willing to adjust if something isn't working.

(03-17-2022 06:31 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 09:57 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I realize it’s not this simple, but Hayes, Gibson plus a shooter would be perfect.

Don't tell a few of the folks here that...those are Keatts guys. 100% eliminates them from being able to be meaningful pieces in Wilmington.

CJ Bryce was a Keatts guy. He was solid here. Cacock was a Keatts guy. Some say he was pretty good here. Honestly, I think Keatts coaches his best at the Mid Major level, and is in over his head in the ACC with the level of talent that all P5s recruit at. He’s a great coach. I wasn’t a fan of how he left, but that bridge has been repaired with our hire of Siddle. I don’t have any grievance with Keatts here, and his time here was AMAZING for our school then, and now as we are utilizing the Keatts tree for success NOW with Coach Siddle.

Not sure why anyone would think we couldn’t bring in former NCSU players successfully, with the exception of Ian Steere. I called that from the start as there were multiple red flags attached to him. It needs to be a case by case basis, but I think some of those players could be amazing contributors here.


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(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  We need another post player and it needs to be an impact guy. We got away with it this year and ultimately our lack of size killed us in the biggest game of the year . Running a 4 guard lineup doesn’t make as much sense when you don’t press


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Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

(03-17-2022 09:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

Agree. I love Kelly, and think he should have played more this year. But the other guys on the roster haven't shown me enough to think they can be contributors in that role. And for the record i think a guy like Gibson could dominate at this level.

(03-17-2022 07:23 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:13 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Post players are guys who score in the post, not outside jumpers at three's. Kelly, Samb and McGriff are post players. I've said it multiple times and it's played out. We are not going to be heavy on players who can't score outside. My bet is we bring on one more "post player" and the rest will be wings/guards who can score outside. That's what a four guard offense is.

We need another post player and it needs to be an impact guy. We got away with it this year and ultimately our lack of size killed us in the biggest game of the year . Running a 4 guard lineup doesn’t make as much sense when you don’t press


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Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

Participation trophy? Gawd your dumb. UNCW tied for first place in the CAA, then they went to the championship game of the CAA and lost by one possession. It's this type of mentality that torpedos good programs. How many of the other CAA schools would LOVE to have had the year we had? Winning pays dividends in recruiting and support for the team, and we did a lot of winning. How short is your attention span that you've already moved on from the dismal years under McGrath when we would have traded you to the JMU boards for a "particpation trophy" year like we just had?

Listen, I love the year we had. I want to get better in the future, is that so bad of me to want to address our glaring weakness, one which definitely played a key role in losing the Ship? Also, you call me dumb, then you follow it up with calling a 4 point loss a 1 possession game. Jus sayin

(03-17-2022 10:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:23 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  We need another post player and it needs to be an impact guy. We got away with it this year and ultimately our lack of size killed us in the biggest game of the year . Running a 4 guard lineup doesn’t make as much sense when you don’t press


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Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

Participation trophy? Gawd your dumb. UNCW tied for first place in the CAA, then they went to the championship game of the CAA and lost by one possession. It's this type of mentality that torpedos good programs. How many of the other CAA schools would LOVE to have had the year we had? Winning pays dividends in recruiting and support for the team, and we did a lot of winning. How short is your attention span that you've already moved on from the dismal years under McGrath when we would have traded you to the JMU boards for a "particpation trophy" year like we just had?

Listen, I love the year we had. I want to get better in the future, is that so bad of me to want to address our glaring weakness, one which definitely played a key role in losing the Ship? Also, you call me dumb, then you follow it up with calling a 4 point loss a 1 possession game. Jus sayin

Well I mean technically...foul on a made 3 pointer right?!? LMAO

(03-17-2022 10:05 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:23 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 06:30 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  Every division 1 program in the country needs a post player that's an impact guy. Unfortunately at this level, you're picking over scraps by the time anyone 6'8 or taller is available and considering your program. If "getting away with it" means 23-9/15-3 and a possession away from a conference tournament championship, I'll believe in this staff's ability to build a roster and system that works.

If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

Participation trophy? Gawd your dumb. UNCW tied for first place in the CAA, then they went to the championship game of the CAA and lost by one possession. It's this type of mentality that torpedos good programs. How many of the other CAA schools would LOVE to have had the year we had? Winning pays dividends in recruiting and support for the team, and we did a lot of winning. How short is your attention span that you've already moved on from the dismal years under McGrath when we would have traded you to the JMU boards for a "particpation trophy" year like we just had?

Listen, I love the year we had. I want to get better in the future, is that so bad of me to want to address our glaring weakness, one which definitely played a key role in losing the Ship? Also, you call me dumb, then you follow it up with calling a 4 point loss a 1 possession game. Jus sayin

Well I mean technically...foul on a made 3 pointer right?!? LMAO

Yes but it's widely known that 3 points or less is considered a one possession game. Don't think i didn't give it a google before i posted it to make sure i wasn't crazy LOL

(03-17-2022 10:08 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:05 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:03 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:23 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

Participation trophy? Gawd your dumb. UNCW tied for first place in the CAA, then they went to the championship game of the CAA and lost by one possession. It's this type of mentality that torpedos good programs. How many of the other CAA schools would LOVE to have had the year we had? Winning pays dividends in recruiting and support for the team, and we did a lot of winning. How short is your attention span that you've already moved on from the dismal years under McGrath when we would have traded you to the JMU boards for a "particpation trophy" year like we just had?

Listen, I love the year we had. I want to get better in the future, is that so bad of me to want to address our glaring weakness, one which definitely played a key role in losing the Ship? Also, you call me dumb, then you follow it up with calling a 4 point loss a 1 possession game. Jus sayin

Well I mean technically...foul on a made 3 pointer right?!? LMAO

Yes but it's widely known that 3 points or less is considered a one possession game. Don't think i didn't give it a google before i posted it to make sure i wasn't crazy LOL

LOL that’s fantastic. For the disagreements and debate on here, do appreciate your willingness to have the conversation.

(03-17-2022 09:56 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:11 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  If you are into participation trophies, yes, that will work

It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

Agree. I love Kelly, and think he should have played more this year. But the other guys on the roster haven't shown me enough to think they can be contributors in that role. And for the record i think a guy like Gibson could dominate at this level.

What about Gibson makes you think he is a banger/tough guy type player because to be honest about him I see him as just the opposite . He is athletic,can run and block shots off the ball ,maybe get the occasional put back on the weakside . Maybe a year in the weight room will help him but the minutes he got at State,which were by default - didn't impress me at all . I saw him in HS and he look about the same right now. I would say his time at NCSU did zero to make him a better player .

(03-17-2022 10:30 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:56 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:24 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  It's not always all or nothing, or at least it shouldn't be. This season was a success for UNCW and Siddle. That doesn't mean I'm into participation trophies, but D1 basketball is too competitive not to enjoy the process.

I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

Agree. I love Kelly, and think he should have played more this year. But the other guys on the roster haven't shown me enough to think they can be contributors in that role. And for the record i think a guy like Gibson could dominate at this level.

What about Gibson makes you think he is a banger/tough guy type player because to be honest about him I see him as just the opposite . He is athletic,can run and block shots off the ball ,maybe get the occasional put back on the weakside . Maybe a year in the weight room will help him but the minutes he got at State,which were by default - didn't impress me at all . I saw him in HS and he look about the same right now. I would say his time at NCSU did zero to make him a better player .

Can't teach Size. 6 '10 and super athletic stands out at this level. Not so much at the ACC level if you are not super skilled too. Painter is a prefect example, was picking splinters at Nova and had 3 really good years at Delaware.

(03-17-2022 10:35 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:30 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:56 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 07:32 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I completely agree with you, he definitely exceeded all expectations. And it's worth celebrating. That said, i don't think it's unreasonable to talk about addressing a weakness which was a key contributor in us losing the championship, and really every conference loss, and addressing that weakness for next year

I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

Agree. I love Kelly, and think he should have played more this year. But the other guys on the roster haven't shown me enough to think they can be contributors in that role. And for the record i think a guy like Gibson could dominate at this level.

What about Gibson makes you think he is a banger/tough guy type player because to be honest about him I see him as just the opposite . He is athletic,can run and block shots off the ball ,maybe get the occasional put back on the weakside . Maybe a year in the weight room will help him but the minutes he got at State,which were by default - didn't impress me at all . I saw him in HS and he look about the same right now. I would say his time at NCSU did zero to make him a better player .

Can't teach Size. 6 '10 and super athletic stands out at this level. Not so much at the ACC level if you are not super skilled too. Painter is a prefect example, was picking splinters at Nova and had 3 really good years at Delaware.

I agree with that but he has a ton of work to do to be a decent basketball player IMO but he has the framework to get it done . Basically comes in as a skinny freshman with a clean slate if he decides to come here and develop as a player and person .

(03-17-2022 10:41 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:35 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 10:30 AM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:56 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 09:51 AM)triangleseahawk919 Wrote:  I'm with you on this one. We need a rugged, physical, post player. I don't even think he has to be a scorer. Rebound, block shots, do the dirty work. Have to have someone to match-up against the Painters, Thompsons, etc. in the league. Hell those guys from CofC look like defensive ends/outside linebackers.

Agree. I love Kelly, and think he should have played more this year. But the other guys on the roster haven't shown me enough to think they can be contributors in that role. And for the record i think a guy like Gibson could dominate at this level.

What about Gibson makes you think he is a banger/tough guy type player because to be honest about him I see him as just the opposite . He is athletic,can run and block shots off the ball ,maybe get the occasional put back on the weakside . Maybe a year in the weight room will help him but the minutes he got at State,which were by default - didn't impress me at all . I saw him in HS and he look about the same right now. I would say his time at NCSU did zero to make him a better player .

Can't teach Size. 6 '10 and super athletic stands out at this level. Not so much at the ACC level if you are not super skilled too. Painter is a prefect example, was picking splinters at Nova and had 3 really good years at Delaware.

I agree with that but he has a ton of work to do to be a decent basketball player IMO but he has the framework to get it done . Basically comes in as a skinny freshman with a clean slate if he decides to come here and develop as a player and person .

If what you’re saying is true, than he has better odds of developing into a strong player at a mid than getting constantly recruited over in the ACC.

Have to wonder if Siddle would take on a transfer from NCSU? I'd think their relationship would preclude taking players from NCSU.

(03-17-2022 11:44 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Have to wonder if Siddle would take on a transfer from NCSU? I'd think their relationship would preclude taking players from NCSU.

If they have already checked out of State, what would it matter? If Siddle was actively recruiting guys that would be a different story

(03-17-2022 11:44 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Have to wonder if Siddle would take on a transfer from NCSU? I'd think their relationship would preclude taking players from NCSU.

I think it would be situational. Both Hayes and Gibson spent two years at with Keatts, and neither played significant minutes on a historically bad NCSU team. Reasonable to believe that Keatts has shared with them that their roles moving forward are uncertain. I wouldn’t expect Siddle to actively recruit from their roster, but their transfers make a lot is sense given familiarity with Siddle and comparable systems.

If Keatts thinks Sims would help save his job next year, do you think his relationship with Siddle would preclude an offer? I don’t.

(03-17-2022 11:52 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 11:44 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Have to wonder if Siddle would take on a transfer from NCSU? I'd think their relationship would preclude taking players from NCSU.

If they have already checked out of State, what would it matter? If Siddle was actively recruiting guys that would be a different story

He CAN'T recruit them actively until they hit the portal. Keatts is struggling at NCSU, and I can't imagine transfers out are a good look for him. To have his long time assistant and friend, i'm sure, bring players on from NCSU would be a slap in his face.

(03-17-2022 12:09 PM)82hawk Wrote:  He CAN'T recruit them actively until they hit the portal.

LOL, right. None of the players in the portal are in contact with other schools before they enter the portal. Coaches aren’t calling these guys directly, but players are absolutely being recruited during the season and before they enter the portal.