(04-06-2022 05:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

And its another thing predicted here.

I've been posting here since the year Lord Zero was elected when there were far more people hanging out here and most all of us predicted this crap in one form or another. Every new issue brought warnings about the dangers of slippery slopes. Those warnings were laughed at and wrote off by the libs of that time as radical rantings. And here we are.

It's amazing how much change can be done in a few short years.

Yes, Obama started it, but I think the country become even more liberal under Trump, he exposed them. (Who's the poster on here who was concerned the backlash to Trump from liberals would be more damaging to the country than a Blue president in office. They are right)

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

Is it Cliff by chance? He open air debates college kids on big state school campuses. He's really good. I used to watch his videos all the time but haven't in a few years now (just stopped, no other reason). I'd say this makes me curious & want to check out his newer videos but I don't want to handle the kids' stupidity right now, I can look out my window & see that.

Now this guy is defending "groomers". You know what they say, if there's smoke there's fire. Maybe it hit close to home, I don't know but it's suspicious, wouldn't you say?

Too many in the Rainbow Community are the way they are b/c of sexual abuse as children. (I believe some are born gay, but I've met gays who were sexually abused as children, it's a suppression technique for a lot of them) As such, there's still too many in the Rainbow Community opposed to pedophilia. Liberals still need to solve that barrier.

(04-06-2022 07:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

Is it Cliff by chance? He open air debates college kids on big state school campuses. He's really good. I used to watch his videos all the time but haven't in a few years now (just stopped, no other reason). I'd say this makes me curious & want to check out his newer videos but I don't want to handle their stupidity right now, I can look out my window & see that.

Yep, its Cliff Knechtle.

He has been putting up some new vids lately from 2021. He tries hard to find and focus on anyone who will engage in an honest and open discussion.

But you can see the clear shift in how he has to talk now, one of the first things he typically has to do is talk about LQBTQ stuff and racism. Almost every single kids first objections is that the Bible teaches against sexual immorality. They seem totally unaware it teaches against ALL sexual immorality, both gay and straight.

The only thing the kids "know" is the Bible is racist and Christians & God hate homosexuals. God is a racist and bigot who only cars about white people.

They are totally ignorant of the fact Christianity was founded in the middle east and that whites are a minority of the worlds Christian population today.

Where do they get these crazy ideas? Class and their teachers/professors.

(04-06-2022 07:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

Is it Cliff by chance? He open air debates college kids on big state school campuses. He's really good. I used to watch his videos all the time but haven't in a few years now (just stopped, no other reason). I'd say this makes me curious & want to check out his newer videos but I don't want to handle their stupidity right now, I can look out my window & see that.

Yep, its Cliff Knechtle.

He has been putting up some new vids lately from 2021. He tries hard to find and focus on anyone who will engage in an honest and open discussion.

But you can see the clear shift in how he has to talk now, one of the first things he typically has to do is talk about LQBTQ stuff and racism.

The only thing the kids "know" is the Bible is racist and Christians & God hate homosexuals. God is a racist and bigot who only cars about white people.

They are totally ignorant of the fact Christianity was founded in the middle east and that whites are a minority of the worlds Christian population today.

Where do they get these crazy ideas? Class and their teachers/professors.

Yep! That's him!

That stuff that rarely got brought up when I used to really watch him.

Usually it was your traditional arguments like "the God of the OT is cruel", "there's too much evil & bad in the world", "the Bible was written by no witnesses", etc.

I wouldn't put the blame solely on professors & teachers. There's a lot of things they get it from. Sometimes it's Christians themselves. (I DO NOT endorse churches or Christians who endorse a Rainbow lifestyle, but I'm sure some have had it communicated it to them in a hopeless manner. It's really best a topic communicated to them by someone very experienced w/ it).

(04-06-2022 07:59 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

Is it Cliff by chance? He open air debates college kids on big state school campuses. He's really good. I used to watch his videos all the time but haven't in a few years now (just stopped, no other reason). I'd say this makes me curious & want to check out his newer videos but I don't want to handle their stupidity right now, I can look out my window & see that.

Yep, its Cliff Knechtle.

He has been putting up some new vids lately from 2021. He tries hard to find and focus on anyone who will engage in an honest and open discussion.

But you can see the clear shift in how he has to talk now, one of the first things he typically has to do is talk about LQBTQ stuff and racism.

The only thing the kids "know" is the Bible is racist and Christians & God hate homosexuals. God is a racist and bigot who only cars about white people.

They are totally ignorant of the fact Christianity was founded in the middle east and that whites are a minority of the worlds Christian population today.

Where do they get these crazy ideas? Class and their teachers/professors.

Yep! That's him!

That stuff that rarely got brought up when I used to really watch him.

Usually it was your traditional arguments like "the God of the OT is cruel", "there's too much evil & bad in the world", "the Bible was written by no witnesses", etc.

I wouldn't put the blame solely on professors & teachers. There's a lot of things they get it from. Sometimes it's Christians themselves. (I DO NOT endorse churches or Christians who endorse a Rainbow lifestyle, but I'm sure some have had it communicated it to them in a hopeless manner. It's really best a topic communicated to them by someone very experienced w/ it).

There is no doubt the culture itself is having a big effect on them as well.

But a lot of Christian parents now talk about how their kids leave for college as Christians and return after one semester as atheists. Pastors everywhere have been talking about this more and more the last several years.

These colleges do strongly indoctrinate them into atheism.

(04-06-2022 08:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:59 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:50 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 07:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

Is it Cliff by chance? He open air debates college kids on big state school campuses. He's really good. I used to watch his videos all the time but haven't in a few years now (just stopped, no other reason). I'd say this makes me curious & want to check out his newer videos but I don't want to handle their stupidity right now, I can look out my window & see that.

Yep, its Cliff Knechtle.

He has been putting up some new vids lately from 2021. He tries hard to find and focus on anyone who will engage in an honest and open discussion.

But you can see the clear shift in how he has to talk now, one of the first things he typically has to do is talk about LQBTQ stuff and racism.

The only thing the kids "know" is the Bible is racist and Christians & God hate homosexuals. God is a racist and bigot who only cars about white people.

They are totally ignorant of the fact Christianity was founded in the middle east and that whites are a minority of the worlds Christian population today.

Where do they get these crazy ideas? Class and their teachers/professors.

Yep! That's him!

That stuff that rarely got brought up when I used to really watch him.

Usually it was your traditional arguments like "the God of the OT is cruel", "there's too much evil & bad in the world", "the Bible was written by no witnesses", etc.

I wouldn't put the blame solely on professors & teachers. There's a lot of things they get it from. Sometimes it's Christians themselves. (I DO NOT endorse churches or Christians who endorse a Rainbow lifestyle, but I'm sure some have had it communicated it to them in a hopeless manner. It's really best a topic communicated to them by someone very experienced w/ it).

There is no doubt the culture itself is having a big effect on them as well.

But a lot of Christian parents now talk about how their kids leave for college as Christians and return after one semester as atheists. Pastors everywhere have been talking about this more and more the last several years.

These colleges do strongly indoctrinate them into atheism.

Eric, I respectfully disagree with this notion. I'm calling BS on these parents. Most of these parents do not instill Christian values in their kids let alone ask them hard biblical questions if they even go to worship service at all. The school took God and the paddle (board of education when applied to the seat of learning increases mental growth) a long time ago. Spare the rod spoil the child. So, parents that say these things are detached from their kids being to busy with their own lives and then wonder how and why these kids turned out the way they did. Bring up a child in a way and he/she will not depart from it.

From day ONE when my kids were preteen they were taught what was biblically and morally according to God what was correct and anything else was manmade for the glorification of man. It is disease and sin period and to be refuted as such with no room for discussion or middle ground. Wrong is wrong and sin is sin. My son would allows tell me I know they are wrong but I can still be friends in hopes that one day they will finally see why what they are doing is wrong and I can't help them by agreeing with them or shunning them. I could see his point of view and he had a personality at young age where he could discuss things with adults most kids can't due to lack of maturity. He was also kid magnet.

Quick story

My youngest opened his school folder yesterday...we live in a "normal" suburb in Shelby county, a municipal district not Shelby schools...he had a paper in his folder asking for permission for him to participate in a new initiative. The initiative was passed by the bozos in the TN state legislature. Family and friends and learning some social BS etc etc etc....

I took a sharpie and wrote an oversized "nope" across the the page and signed the bottom, stuck it back in his folder. My son asked me why I said "nope"... I told him recess rules.... have fun son.

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(04-06-2022 07:34 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 04:59 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 03:44 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  It's actually rather helpful, as rightwing overuse and misuse of the term shows intelligent people that they are coming from an unhinged, hate-based position rather than actually combatting child abuse. Do you actually know what "grooming" means?

grooming
[ˈɡro͞omiNG]
NOUN
the practice of brushing and cleaning the coat of a horse, dog, or other animal:
"regular grooming is essential to the well-being of your dog"
the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense:
"online grooming has become a growing cause for concern"

Where to start...

I wonder if the left has ever overused/misused terms:

• Racist
• Nazi
• Homophobe
• Transphobe
• Fascist
  

And I do think those on the left are indeed unhinged and coming from a position of hatred of others.


And yes, the term "groomer" is being applied correctly -- unlike the names thrown around by the left.

Don't forget misogynist and sexist.

All of this wasn't hid from our view. MSM and sitcoms paraded their agenda for the whole US to be conditioned what was their new moral standard. It was in the open with no secrecy. It clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to think any other way but theirs is corrupt and you are to be ostracized if you believe different.

It's at the very core of creating chaos and hatred for those who believe differently. Compromise is not part of their tenets. Think about it. Why they label dissenters with a myriad of derogatory names yet label themselves as PROGRESSIVES. The only progress being made by the folks is a one way ticket to living in a h3llhole.

(04-06-2022 10:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Eric, I respectfully disagree with this notion. I'm calling BS on these parents. Most of these parents do not instill Christian values in their kids let alone ask them hard biblical questions if they even go to worship service at all.

I would say that's a bit harsh to just blindly say all these parents and pastors are just lying about this and all there kids are just spoiled. You can certainly say that about some but clearly that is not the case across the board.

I know I have seen it happen with my own 2 eyes where kids are believers and active in the church but all that changes after they spend some time in a secular college.

Part of the issue is they were taught what to believe but not WHY to believe in it. They were not taught why we have faith in the bible and don't really have answers when push on from all direction as hard as they often are in these settings. Check out Frank Turek and other Christian apologists who deal with young college age kids a lot.

This is a real issue, they are not just making this up and its a lot more complicated that just having spoiled kids. These guys spend a lot of time on these campuses and talking with these students.

At the same time they are dealing with the same issues all young kids in college are dealing with in the temptations of the college party life and hyper sexual lifestyles, plus all the woke marxist lunacy and LGBTQ activists and extremeists. That is a lot to throw on a 19 year olds shoulders with raging hormones and still learning who they are and dealing with their faith being attacked and not really having been prepared for it in their churches who do not teach apologetics along with scripture.

Again, don't take my word for it, check out guys like Frank, Cliff Knechtle and other pastors and apologists who deal with this and talk with these kids daily.

Its a real issue, people are not lying about it.

We really need to spend a little more time on apologetics in our churches, particularly with the younger people so they will understand not only what we believe but WHY we believe it and how to give answer for their faith in our secular society.

It really strengthens your faith in a season of trial and struggle we all go through.

(04-06-2022 11:16 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 10:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Eric, I respectfully disagree with this notion. I'm calling BS on these parents. Most of these parents do not instill Christian values in their kids let alone ask them hard biblical questions if they even go to worship service at all.

I would say that is a pretty harsh and judgmental take to just blindly say all these parents and pastors are just lying about this and all there kids are just spoiled. You can certainly say that about some but clearly that is not the case across the board.

I know I have seen it happen with my own 2 eyes where kids are believers and active in the church but all that changes after they spend some time in a secular college.

Part of the issue is they were taught what to believe but not WHY to believe in it. They were not taught why we have faith in the bible and don't really have answers when push on from all direction as hard as they often are in these settings. Check out Frank Turek and other Christian apologists who deal with young college age kids a lot.

This is a real issue, they are not just making this up and its a lot more complicated that just having spoiled kids. These guys spend a lot of time on these campuses and talking with these students.

At the same time they are dealing with the same issues all young kids in college are dealing with in the temptations of the college party life and hyper sexual lifestyles, plus all the woke marxist lunacy and LGBTQ activists and extremeists. That is a lot to throw on a 19 year olds shoulders with raging hormones and still learning who they are and dealing with their faith being attacked and not really having been prepared for it in their churches who do not teach apologetics along with scripture.

Again, don't take my word for it, check out guys like Frank, Cliff Knechtle and other pastors and apologists who deal with this and talk with these kids daily.

Its a real issue, people are not lying about it.

I'm sure my paint brush was probably too broad. But, my point was the majority of these parents have most likely and I can only go off my personal experiences have never given these kids a strong biblical background. Talk about Apologists, Ravi said if our young people don't start studying the Bible like Muslims study the Koran we will decline to point of irrelevance.

Back on topic. Kids today are not grounded biblically. Catholics are the worst and once again I only say this because a large number of my family professes to be Catholic and they never pick up the bible so they are easily swayed by others doctrines and their standard answer to any religious topic is I'll have to ask Father So&So about it. Clueless.

Parents in this country have failed. I will give you another example of some kids who are poor and didn't have a Dad and didn't grow up in any church. Single mother working with 5 kids and one was in a wheelchair. When asked one day at Supermarket if the they would like to come to church after some hesitation of not wanting to judged by there appearance she said ok and starting attending regularly. These kids soaked up everything and always had questions your comfortable teenager going through the motions of going to church don't ask. All of these kids now read scripture every week. Funny, one day one asked me how to be successful in life and my answer to him was what I was told when I was his age. You have to have the three D's. 1. Desire - you really want it 2. Discipline without this you won't be able to control yourself and make the right adjustments at the most important times 3. Determination - no matter how tough or unattainable you believe something is you just have to keep going and pushing until you see the end.

Clearly we know that is a marathon and you have to train your kids so they will be able to achieve the course.

(04-06-2022 11:40 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 11:16 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 10:09 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Eric, I respectfully disagree with this notion. I'm calling BS on these parents. Most of these parents do not instill Christian values in their kids let alone ask them hard biblical questions if they even go to worship service at all.

I would say that is a pretty harsh and judgmental take to just blindly say all these parents and pastors are just lying about this and all there kids are just spoiled. You can certainly say that about some but clearly that is not the case across the board.

I know I have seen it happen with my own 2 eyes where kids are believers and active in the church but all that changes after they spend some time in a secular college.

Part of the issue is they were taught what to believe but not WHY to believe in it. They were not taught why we have faith in the bible and don't really have answers when push on from all direction as hard as they often are in these settings. Check out Frank Turek and other Christian apologists who deal with young college age kids a lot.

This is a real issue, they are not just making this up and its a lot more complicated that just having spoiled kids. These guys spend a lot of time on these campuses and talking with these students.

At the same time they are dealing with the same issues all young kids in college are dealing with in the temptations of the college party life and hyper sexual lifestyles, plus all the woke marxist lunacy and LGBTQ activists and extremeists. That is a lot to throw on a 19 year olds shoulders with raging hormones and still learning who they are and dealing with their faith being attacked and not really having been prepared for it in their churches who do not teach apologetics along with scripture.

Again, don't take my word for it, check out guys like Frank, Cliff Knechtle and other pastors and apologists who deal with this and talk with these kids daily.

Its a real issue, people are not lying about it.

I'm sure my paint brush was probably too broad. But, my point was the majority of these parents have most likely and I can only go off my personal experiences have never given these kids a strong biblical background. Talk about Apologists, Ravi said if our young people don't start studying the Bible like Muslims study the Koran we will decline to point of irrelevance.

Back on topic. Kids today are not grounded biblically. Catholics are the worst and once again I only say this because a large number of my family professes to be Catholic and they never pick up the bible so they are easily swayed by others doctrines and their standard answer to any religious topic is I'll have to ask Father So&So about it. Clueless.

Parents in this country have failed. I will give you another example of some kids who are poor and didn't have a Dad and didn't grow up in any church. Single mother working with 5 kids and one was in a wheelchair. When asked one day at Supermarket if the they would like to come to church after some hesitation of not wanting to judged by there appearance she said ok and starting attending regularly. These kids soaked up everything and always had questions your comfortable teenager going through the motions of going to church don't ask. All of these kids now read scripture every week. Funny, one day one asked me how to be successful in life and my answer to him was what I was told when I was his age. You have to have the three D's. 1. Desire - you really want it 2. Discipline without this you won't be able to control yourself and make the right adjustments at the most important times 3. Determination - no matter how tough or unattainable you believe something is you just have to keep going and pushing until you see the end.

Clearly we know that is a marathon and you have to train your kids so they will be able to achieve the course.

I fully agree with this.

More than half of apolgetics is about studying scripture, particularity the OT. But a lot of people do not realize that because they never read most of it. Before I had read it, I would have lmao at the idea that the Bible can give actual evidence for the Bible, I had no idea. If you have not really studied it, its sounds totally absurd on its face. Once you begin to dive deep into the book you begin to realize how foolish that criticism is. But you have to go a lot deeper than just reading the NT to see it.

As I often point out to Jews and non believers, my faith in the NT is based heavily on the OT. Without the OT its just blind faith in the text of the NT, even with the solid historical documentation of the gospel we have. Its the OT that illustrates how the NT was not just some made up religion after the fact, its the OT that lays out the entire gospel 1500 years before Christ is even born in Bethlehem.

Even the Jews rejection of Christ, even for a full 2000 years now is laid out right there in the OT in multiple books, even the fact that the church would mostly be Gentile instead of Jew for most of the 2000 year church age is right there in multiple OT books. Its the kind of evidence and validity no other religion on earth has on any level.

(04-06-2022 05:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(04-06-2022 05:03 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  They have been grooming children and teens for several years.

There is a minister I watch who goes to college campuses and open air preaches and debates college kids. His vids go back some 10 years and you can see the steady radicalization of college kids just over the last 10 years.

10 years ago it was typically good discussions and debates about God of the validity of scripture, now its nothing but kids screaming at him for being a racist nazi who hates gays. That is the basis of EVERY single objection they have. There is literally no other issue that exists now but LGBTQ lunacy. The kids have no other thought in their brains anymore.

The contrast between 2011 and 2021-22 is stunning.

And its another thing predicted here.

"they're nothing but puppies that go woofy-woof." - stinkfist

Hope the Republicans blast them with the Groomer label non-stop going forward. Obviously, it makes them mad, and anything that pisses off a liberal, I am all for it.

Yes!!!!! In high school Sunday School classes I was never taught apologetics! We were taught 'how to be a good Christian' & stuff like that. Good stuff, but it means when kids are exposed to attacks on the faith for the first time at a big secular university by someone they think knows about this stuff like a college professor, they're clueless about it.

Yes, some of the blame is on parents as well. I've heard plenty of times Christian parents say 'I don't want to indoctrinate my kids. I want to let them figure out things on their own.' Little do they know, if they don't teach their kids, the secular world will take them.

For a brief period, I was part of a Sunday School where the teacher didn't want to 'indoctrinate' us & it was 100% social, no teaching at all!

(04-06-2022 10:15 PM)maximus Wrote:  Quick story

My youngest opened his school folder yesterday...we live in a "normal" suburb in Shelby county, a municipal district not Shelby schools...he had a paper in his folder asking for permission for him to participate in a new initiative. The initiative was passed by the bozos in the TN state legislature. Family and friends and learning some social BS etc etc etc....

I took a sharpie and wrote an oversized "nope" across the the page and signed the bottom, stuck it back in his folder. My son asked me why I said "nope"... I told him recess rules.... have fun son.

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And TN is one of the states which is completely controlled by Republicans (governor, senate, house) AND has a veto-proof super-majority.

The state controls education across all districts and can suspend a district's oversight if they don't adhere to state standards.

So anything that happens at any school in any district in the state is ultimately under the authority of and the responsibility of the GOP controlled state.

When I lived in Fayette County (Hickory Withe) our state senator, Republican retired Marine Dolores Gresham, was chairman of the state senate education committee. During her tenure TN was one of the first states to sign up for Obama's Common Core State Standards initiative.

Politicians practically sell their soul for that fed money.

(04-07-2022 07:23 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Yes!!!!! In high school Sunday School classes I was never taught apologetics! We were taught 'how to be a good Christian' & stuff like that. Good stuff, but it means when kids are exposed to attacks on the faith for the first time at a big secular university by someone they think knows about this stuff like a college professor, they're clueless about it.

Yes, some of the blame is on parents as well. I've heard plenty of times Christian parents say 'I don't want to indoctrinate my kids. I want to let them figure out things on their own.' Little do they know, if they don't teach their kids, the secular world will take them.

For a brief period, I was part of a Sunday School where the teacher didn't want to 'indoctrinate' us & it was 100% social, no teaching at all!

Its a vital area for Christians in our modern culture.

And its benefits are multi faceted.

1- It helps you to respond to the mindless copy paste questions you get asked. Its always the same questions and arguments over and over again, you rarely ever hear anything new or original. After a while you realize you can answer peoples questions before they are even asked lol.

2- Outside of debates and attacks, its also an incredibly powerful tool for good old fashion witnessing to people who are interest in the faith and looking for evidence and sounds reasons to believe.

3- It really solidifies and grows your own faith in ways you never thought possible. It removes self doubt and double mindedness that some Christians can struggle with in difficult seasons of their life. You hit a point where you don't just believe, YOU KNOW. Like saying the sun rises in the east, I don't just believe, I KNOW. And that has a big impact on how you live your daily life as a Christian.


There are other major benefits but these are some of the biggest. As scripture says, we should be ready to give an answer for our faith.

Its vital we spend more time teaching biblical apologetics in churches or in our Bible study groups. Everyone in America already knows who Jesus is, they need to know WHY they should believe in Him over countless other gods and religions. That is the issue for most Americans.

(04-07-2022 07:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Hope the Republicans blast them with the Groomer label non-stop going forward. Obviously, it makes them mad, and anything that pisses off a liberal, I am all for it.

Liberal and Progressive are both pseudonyms for Democrats. It is a mask they wear so by true definition of these names you cannot see the ugly underneath the mask.