(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

The MWC has a deal with CBSSN, so it wouldn't be a completely CUSA dominated platform. Each MWC team has roughly four games a year broadcast on CBSSN. All Saturday games. If you're looking for a place to stand out, CBSSN would not necessarily be a slam dunk, but I can see its value. I'd be curious to know what other college football conferences have some kind of deal with CBSSN, and what the MWC TV ratings were last season on CBSSN.

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

(06-15-2022 11:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number of how many homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

The 61 million you quotes was "Available to".

Quote:As of May 2015, CBS Sports Network was available to approximately 61 million pay television households (66.1% of households with cable television)

So Apollo's correction is .... correct. Your 7 year old number is wrong.

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:28 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I get CBSSN with youtubeTv but don't have ESPN Plus. Nearly 100 million homes out of 150 millioin in America have CBSSN. Lots of eyes there.

I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

I'm not sure how to find "homes reached" for every network, but I was able to find subscriber counts. Doesn't show the whole picture of course, but it's data nonetheless. Not sure if a deal with CBSSN would also include CBS, but I put them up there just in case. As mentioned previously, I genuinely do not know what kind of ratings college football games get on CBSSN, so if somebody has that information, please pass it along.

CBS: 19.2 Million
CBSSN: 44 Million
ESPN: 140 Million
ESPN2: 76 Million
ESPNU: 51 Million
ESPN+: 22 Million
facebook: 2.93B (just playing around )

https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/
https://thestreamable.com/news/espn-plus...-over-year

(06-15-2022 11:42 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number of how many homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

The 61 million you quotes was "Available to".

Quote:As of May 2015, CBS Sports Network was available to approximately 61 million pay television households (66.1% of households with cable television)

So Apollo's correction is .... correct. Your 7 year old number is wrong.

Ok man, you're right CBSSN is in more homes than ESPN. That makes sense.

https://deadline.com/2021/11/espn-disney...234880512/

(06-15-2022 11:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

Exactly. And even it’s in everyone of those homes, that does equate to actual viewership.

(06-15-2022 11:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:46 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I also have YouTube TV. That or Hulu Live are the best options for sports fans. But CBSSN is in around 60 million homes. It's in that second tier level as far as distribution. Think ESPNU, FS2, ESPNEWS. It's on a tier that costs more money on most services.

I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

I'm not sure how to find "homes reached" for every network, but I was able to find subscriber counts. Doesn't show the whole picture of course, but it's data nonetheless. Not sure if a deal with CBSSN would also include CBS, but I put them up there just in case. As mentioned previously, I genuinely do not know what kind of ratings college football games get on CBSSN, so if somebody has that information, please pass it along.

CBS: 19.2 Million
CBSSN: 44 Million
ESPN: 140 Million
ESPN2: 76 Million
ESPNU: 51 Million
ESPN+: 22 Million
facebook: 2.93B (just playing around )

https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/
https://thestreamable.com/news/espn-plus...-over-year

So you took the 140 million for ESPN from https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/ but not the 17 million for ESPN+?

The 140 million is domestic and international. The consensus is ESPN at the end of 2021 had about 75 million domestic subscribers.

ESPN+ 22 million subscribers is just ahead of Bein Sports (~15 million). If we think Bein Sports was bad for eyeball, why is ESPN+ better?

(06-15-2022 11:55 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

I'm not sure how to find "homes reached" for every network, but I was able to find subscriber counts. Doesn't show the whole picture of course, but it's data nonetheless. Not sure if a deal with CBSSN would also include CBS, but I put them up there just in case. As mentioned previously, I genuinely do not know what kind of ratings college football games get on CBSSN, so if somebody has that information, please pass it along.

CBS: 19.2 Million
CBSSN: 44 Million
ESPN: 140 Million
ESPN2: 76 Million
ESPNU: 51 Million
ESPN+: 22 Million
facebook: 2.93B (just playing around )

https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/
https://thestreamable.com/news/espn-plus...-over-year

So you took the 140 million for ESPN from https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/ but not the 17 million for ESPN+?

The 140 million is domestic and international. The consensus is ESPN at the end of 2021 had about 75 million domestic subscribers.

ESPN+ 22 million subscribers is just ahead of Bein Sports (~15 million). If we think Bein Sports was bad for eyeball, why is ESPN+ better?

Because fans of college football actually pay for and use ESPN+ while no one outside of Soccer fans knew that Bein was even a channel, that they were showing CUSA games, or even what its programing was. I have no love for ESPN or the Mouse, but they sell sports like no other. Dealing with ESPN is like grabbing a bull by the horns, you may not want to be in that position, and the bull has almost complete control, but you dare not let go.

(06-15-2022 11:55 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

Exactly. And even it’s in everyone of those homes, that does equate to actual viewership.

Maybe try reading the info before replying? It clearly states they are available in 98 million homes and have 44 million subscribers.

The 60 million 'since96 wrote about was regarding "available to", that is out dated.

(06-15-2022 12:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:55 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:38 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

"Available to" is the number homes it could be in if everyone with access to it added the tier it's on; not how many homes it's actually in.

For example, HBO is "available to" me on YouTube TV. But I don't have it.

Exactly. And even it’s in everyone of those homes, that does equate to actual viewership.

Maybe try reading the info before replying? It clearly states they are available in 98 million homes and have 44 million subscribers.

The 60 million 'since96 wrote about was regarding "available to", that is out dated.

Your link is even older. 2011.

Meaning they were up to around 60M homes in 2015. Up from 44M in 2011.

And since CBSSN can be found on higher sports tiers where ESPNU is and ESPNU went from 62 million homes in 2020 to 51 million this past year; then around 50M homes is likely where CBSSN falls today.

This wasn't smack talk. Just using data and common sense to make a correction. Oh well. Have a good one.

Mine wasn't smack either, just providing some information on CBSSN and ESPN, and looking for MWC data on TV ratings. Genuinely curious. Not sure what the title of this split thread is about.

This split and name change made me laugh out loud.

(06-15-2022 11:55 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:44 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:30 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 11:21 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(06-15-2022 10:52 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  I believe that 61 million number is about 7 years old. The latest I've seen now is over 99 million.

No, it's just not that high. Even ESPN is only in 76 million homes as of late 2021.

100M is broadcast network territory.

Apollo is right, as usual.
CBSSN Network Info

I'm not sure how to find "homes reached" for every network, but I was able to find subscriber counts. Doesn't show the whole picture of course, but it's data nonetheless. Not sure if a deal with CBSSN would also include CBS, but I put them up there just in case. As mentioned previously, I genuinely do not know what kind of ratings college football games get on CBSSN, so if somebody has that information, please pass it along.

CBS: 19.2 Million
CBSSN: 44 Million
ESPN: 140 Million
ESPN2: 76 Million
ESPNU: 51 Million
ESPN+: 22 Million
facebook: 2.93B (just playing around )

https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/
https://thestreamable.com/news/espn-plus...-over-year

So you took the 140 million for ESPN from https://disneynews.us/espn-statistics-facts/ but not the 17 million for ESPN+?

The 140 million is domestic and international. The consensus is ESPN at the end of 2021 had about 75 million domestic subscribers.

ESPN+ 22 million subscribers is just ahead of Bein Sports (~15 million). If we think Bein Sports was bad for eyeball, why is ESPN+ better?

The SBC is on ESPN so it has to be the best in the world and everyone is clamoring to watch the next ULM v ULaLa game

(06-15-2022 01:00 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Mine wasn't smack either, just providing some information on CBSSN and ESPN, and looking for MWC data on TV ratings. Genuinely curious. Not sure what the title of this split thread is about.

Your data wasnt showing the SBC dominance we all know exist.