Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

(07-13-2022 02:56 AM)7thHeaven Wrote:  Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

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(07-13-2022 06:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-13-2022 02:56 AM)7thHeaven Wrote:  Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

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(07-13-2022 06:08 AM)green Wrote:  

(07-13-2022 06:00 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(07-13-2022 02:56 AM)7thHeaven Wrote:  Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

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Listening to too much Gold and Blue Dude.

I would be fine with it.

I don't see it happening.

Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Texas schools (hopefully TCU and Baylor)/OK State/Cincy = New ACCN states
WVU/Cincy = Football brands/existing rivalries
KU = Blueblood hoops/new ACCN state


Put together 4 pods of 5 schools.

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Lville
Pod 3- UVa, UNC, Dook, NCSU, VT
Pod 4- WF, Clem, GT, FSU and Miami

Rotate pod combinations every year and you can play still everyone regularly.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Pod 1 vs Pod 4
Pod 2 vs Pod 3

etc
etc

Well the BIG10 is stopping at 16 and the SEC is stopping at 16, the ACC is at 14 in FB (15 in all other sports) I do not think the ACC expands unless ND joins. If you do not have a link to post with the rumor probably just wasting everyones time.

SEC staying at 16 Link
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...-16-teams/

Big 10 to wait on ND
https://www.on3.com/teams/notre-dame-fig...er-report/

Rather than looking at numbers, I think at this point it is a matter of the properties ESPN wants to retain. ESPN has been wanting to blow up the XII for a long time and moving those schools to the ACC would be a way of keeping those they want while growing the ACCN footprint.

ESPN can put together the PAC with duct tape and bailing wire by including Texas Tech and someone else (San Diego State?) and take over their network for them.

That would put the SECN, ACCN and the PACN in the state of Texas.

(07-13-2022 08:33 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  Well the BIG10 is stopping at 16 and the SEC is stopping at 16, the ACC is at 14 in FB (15 in all other sports) I do not think the ACC expands unless ND joins. If you do not have a link to post with the rumor probably just wasting everyones time.

SEC staying at 16 Link
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...-16-teams/

Big 10 to wait on ND
https://www.on3.com/teams/notre-dame-fig...er-report/

They are both waiting on an answer for ND. ND is the next domino. If ND goes to the B1G, the B1G will consume more Pac-10. If ND goes to the SEC, the B1G will consume more ACC.

(07-13-2022 08:17 AM)GoWulfPak Wrote:  Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Texas schools (hopefully TCU and Baylor)/OK State/Cincy = New ACCN states
WVU/Cincy = Football brands/existing rivalries
KU = Blueblood hoops/new ACCN state


Put together 4 pods of 5 schools.

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Lville
Pod 3- UVa, UNC, Dook, NCSU, VT
Pod 4- WF, Clem, GT, FSU and Miami

Rotate pod combinations every year and you can play still everyone regularly.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Pod 1 vs Pod 4
Pod 2 vs Pod 3

etc
etc

The SEC Flyover conference. Members are paid in frequent flyer miles. Team bus fleets are augmented with team RVs.

(07-13-2022 08:17 AM)GoWulfPak Wrote:  Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Texas schools (hopefully TCU and Baylor)/OK State/Cincy = New ACCN states
WVU/Cincy = Football brands/existing rivalries
KU = Blueblood hoops/new ACCN state


Put together 4 pods of 5 schools.

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Lville
Pod 3- UVa, UNC, Dook, NCSU, VT
Pod 4- WF, Clem, GT, FSU and Miami

Rotate pod combinations every year and you can play still everyone regularly.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Pod 1 vs Pod 4
Pod 2 vs Pod 3

etc
etc

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Lville
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Cincy

(07-13-2022 09:13 AM)swardy76 Wrote:  

(07-13-2022 08:17 AM)GoWulfPak Wrote:  Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Texas schools (hopefully TCU and Baylor)/OK State/Cincy = New ACCN states
WVU/Cincy = Football brands/existing rivalries
KU = Blueblood hoops/new ACCN state


Put together 4 pods of 5 schools.

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Lville
Pod 3- UVa, UNC, Dook, NCSU, VT
Pod 4- WF, Clem, GT, FSU and Miami

Rotate pod combinations every year and you can play still everyone regularly.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Pod 1 vs Pod 4
Pod 2 vs Pod 3

etc
etc

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Lville
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Cincy

Would make better geographical sense...but Cincy is being thrown a lifeline. They can deal with being with the other group. Lville is grandfathered in.....

If I were ESPN I’d buy the Pac 10 and nail down West Texas with Texas Tech and TCU. Potentially SDSU and UNLV for the the markets if the money is there.

Then I’d nail down Houston and either Baylor or SMU for the ACC and create the pACCN.

ESPN then has California, Seattle, Portland, Denver, Salt Lake, Phoenix, Texas, Florida and the entire East Coast.

UCF/S FLA would hurt FSU.

The rest aren’t going to do much.

(07-13-2022 09:02 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-13-2022 08:17 AM)GoWulfPak Wrote:  Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Texas schools (hopefully TCU and Baylor)/OK State/Cincy = New ACCN states
WVU/Cincy = Football brands/existing rivalries
KU = Blueblood hoops/new ACCN state


Put together 4 pods of 5 schools.

Pod 1- KU, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy
Pod 2- Cuse, WVU, Pitt , BC, Lville
Pod 3- UVa, UNC, Dook, NCSU, VT
Pod 4- WF, Clem, GT, FSU and Miami

Rotate pod combinations every year and you can play still everyone regularly.

Pod 1 vs Pod 2
Pod 3 vs Pod 4

Pod 1 vs Pod 4
Pod 2 vs Pod 3

etc
etc

The SEC Flyover conference. Members are paid in frequent flyer miles. Team bus fleets are augmented with team RVs.

Atlanta to Waco, Stillwater and DFW are all closer than Cuse and Boston

SMU and Rice.

(07-13-2022 02:56 AM)7thHeaven Wrote:  Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

I heard that the ACC was in talks with Ohio State, Alabama and the LA Rams. That would add even more markets and brands to ESPN.

(07-13-2022 02:56 AM)7thHeaven Wrote:  Hearing more rumors of the ACC adding two Texas schools and not stopping there. Cincinnati, WV, Oklahoma State and Kansas being mentioned also. I’m starting to think the ACC and PAC12 taking Big12 schools and merging is realistic. Seems like the most optimal way to increase revenue and add markets to ESPN.

The only expansion making sense to ACC is to add Oklahoma State, Kansas and two Texas schools (Baylor and Texas Tech likely). If ACC wants to add six, then also Cincinnati and Kansas St. Kansas St is added just because Kansas wants to bring along its little brother.

No one is paying $80m in buyout money to leave the Big 12 for the ACC to sign onto that insane GOR. The Pac schools that have an option of joining the Big 12 would rather do that then lock themselves into that GOR as well. If the ACC wants to go west with Oregon St, Washington St & Cal that's an option since they have no other choices.

The ACC sat idle way to long and now the best options they thought would always be there for them are no longer there and if projections hold up will be out earning them.

(07-13-2022 03:27 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  No one is paying $80m in buyout money to leave the Big 12 for the ACC to sign onto that insane GOR. The Pac schools that have an option of joining the Big 12 would rather do that then lock themselves into that GOR as well. If the ACC wants to go west with Oregon St, Washington St & Cal that's an option since they have no other choices.

The ACC sat idle way to long and now the best options they thought would always be there for them are no longer there and if projections hold up will be out earning them.

LOL

(07-13-2022 03:27 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  No one is paying $80m in buyout money to leave the Big 12 for the ACC to sign onto that insane GOR. The Pac schools that have an option of joining the Big 12 would rather do that then lock themselves into that GOR as well. If the ACC wants to go west with Oregon St, Washington St & Cal that's an option since they have no other choices.

The ACC sat idle way to long and now the best options they thought would always be there for them are no longer there and if projections hold up will be out earning them.

I can agree with most of what you said. The Big 12 projection wise looks like it will maintain a healthy check. The move to the ACC will not make a ton of sense if just for a small upgrade and no GOR. The Big 12 i believe seems to be stable for once. The PAC can't attack them and the ACC is also unattractive for a myriad of reasons.