(08-01-2022 11:03 AM)everyone Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:56 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:25 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 09:37 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 09:23 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  2010 - 2021
Using AP for rankings

Marshall
9 Winning Seasons
9 Bowl Games
6 - 3 Bowl record
Ranked 2 times - AP 15 and AP 18 - Finished season at AP 23
Winning Record versus AAC6

USM
7 Winning Seasons
5 Bowl Games
2-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 20 - Finished season at AP 20
Winning Record versus AAC6

ODU
2 Winning Seasons
2 Bowl Games
1-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

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Charlotte
1 Winning Season
1 Bowl Game
0-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

FAU
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

UTSA
5 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
0-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 15 - Finished season unranked

UAB
6 Winning Seasons
4 Bowl Games
2-2 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

North Texas
3 Winning Seasons
6 Bowl Games
1-5 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

Rice
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

Actually, USM does not have a winning record against UTSA...

It's a 4 - 4 tie
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss/vs/utsa

Correct, my point still stands.
In addition, USM also does not have a winning record against UAB, UAB leads at 7 wins to 2.
2-2 versus Charlotte
1-1 versus FAU
North Texas leads the series at 5-4....

11-8 against UAB...I know you young programs don't know the tradition of the sport and all but it matters...we won 9 straight against UAB at one point. A down decade of USM football and we still lead the all time series against UAB.

I thought we were talking about since 2010? I mean, GreenBison stated the stats from 2010-2021...

(08-01-2022 09:23 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 09:45 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 09:13 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 08:54 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(07-27-2022 08:40 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  The market and economics are still very fluid wouldn’t you say? Like any market, certain stocks are rising while others are declining. The AAC’s value is certainly changing as it loses Houston and Cincy, while adding CUSA teams to fill the void after being rebuffed by more desirable teams out west. I’m not sure a second fiddle choice will eventually be very appealing to ESPN or any other major sports network. Are you following sailor what the next ten years most likely hold?

That’s the best you can do when the facts show the truth?

Care to explain? You don’t understand or foresee the market dynamics and the shifts that are occurring? I’m guessing you don’t understand much if you don’t see what is on the horizon. But let me spell it out for you. The remaining premium schools in the AAC are going to leave (SMU, Memphis) and then you are going to be left with CUSA table scraps when it’s time to renegotiate your contract - with no leverage. Any of that resonate? If not, explain the flaw in my logic. Or is all you have?

Something I've observed lately: those speaking doom for the AAC almost always have to posit SMU, Memphis, and/or USF leaving in more realignment chaos, and Navy going independent (an unlikelihood I've discussed elsewhere) or Wichita State going to the A10, and THEN they'll be better than the AAC!!@!
It's like they know in their heart of hearts that even after losing three of our top programs, we STILL haven't dropped to their level.

As far as scraps...
The AAC took the last five consecutive CUSA football champs.
Average 2021 Massey Composite final ranking of AAC's CUSA additions: 84.17
Average 2021 Massey Composite final ranking of SBC's CUSA additions: 98.67
If we got "scraps" what does that make you?

Could more bad things happen to the AAC in realignment? Sure, but that is far from a given.
Until that point, yes, we've lost our clear advantage, head and shoulders above the G4. Closer to parity, now, so it's time to get up off the mat and rebuild our P6 advantage. But with enormous financial advantages over the G4, and stability in our ESPN deal, and incomparable exposure on ABC and ESPN, we just might be better positioned than in 2014. Future contracts? Just the structure of current deals nearly ensures that our viewership will remain better than the Sun Belt and therefore our future contracts will be better than the Sun Belt.

I'm concerned about the mwc, or even just one mwc team surging in 2023-25 as the new CFP is designed.
I'm not concerned about the Sun Belt at all.

Have a nice summer.

2010 - 2021
Using AP for rankings

Marshall
9 Winning Seasons
9 Bowl Games
6 - 3 Bowl record
Ranked 2 times - AP 15 and AP 18 - Finished season at AP 23
Winning Record versus AAC6

USM
7 Winning Seasons
5 Bowl Games
2-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 20 - Finished season at AP 20
Winning Record versus AAC6

ODU
2 Winning Seasons
2 Bowl Games
1-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

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Charlotte
1 Winning Season
1 Bowl Game
0-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

FAU
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

UTSA
5 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
0-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 15 - Finished season unranked

UAB
6 Winning Seasons
4 Bowl Games
2-2 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

North Texas
3 Winning Seasons
6 Bowl Games
1-5 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

Rice
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

USM has lost 8 of the last 10 to UAB and Marshall and ODU have zero wins against UAB since UAB football came back.

I am way more concerned with where we are and where we are headed vs where we have been.

(08-01-2022 11:03 AM)everyone Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:56 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:25 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 09:37 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 09:23 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  2010 - 2021
Using AP for rankings

Marshall
9 Winning Seasons
9 Bowl Games
6 - 3 Bowl record
Ranked 2 times - AP 15 and AP 18 - Finished season at AP 23
Winning Record versus AAC6

USM
7 Winning Seasons
5 Bowl Games
2-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 20 - Finished season at AP 20
Winning Record versus AAC6

ODU
2 Winning Seasons
2 Bowl Games
1-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

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Charlotte
1 Winning Season
1 Bowl Game
0-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

FAU
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

UTSA
5 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
0-3 Bowl Record
Ranked 1 time - AP 15 - Finished season unranked

UAB
6 Winning Seasons
4 Bowl Games
2-2 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

North Texas
3 Winning Seasons
6 Bowl Games
1-5 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

Rice
3 Winning Seasons
3 Bowl Games
2-1 Bowl Record
Never Ranked

Actually, USM does not have a winning record against UTSA...

It's a 4 - 4 tie
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss/vs/utsa

Correct, my point still stands.
In addition, USM also does not have a winning record against UAB, UAB leads at 7 wins to 2.
2-2 versus Charlotte
1-1 versus FAU
North Texas leads the series at 5-4....

11-8 against UAB...I know you young programs don't know the tradition of the sport and all but it matters...we won 9 straight against UAB at one point. A down decade of USM football and we still lead the all time series against UAB.

Bragging about an all time record of 11-8 against UAB isn’t the flex you think it is. UAB was straight up horrible from birth until 2014. And the y’all are still 11-8 all time.

And back to his numbers, the period he was referencing was 2010-2021. I get Mississippi reading comprehension isn’t the best, but that’s the context. Which leads to…. the period of UAB football that was so atrocious that they literally shut the entire program down, 2010-2014, UAB went 3-1 against USM…. Also 36-19 all time against y’all in shooty hoops.

clt hopes that one day, the lowly sunbelt folks will go away. Far away.

(08-01-2022 11:16 AM)Engblazr Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 11:03 AM)everyone Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:56 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 10:25 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(08-01-2022 09:37 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Actually, USM does not have a winning record against UTSA...

It's a 4 - 4 tie
http://www.winsipedia.com/southern-miss/vs/utsa

Correct, my point still stands.
In addition, USM also does not have a winning record against UAB, UAB leads at 7 wins to 2.
2-2 versus Charlotte
1-1 versus FAU
North Texas leads the series at 5-4....

11-8 against UAB...I know you young programs don't know the tradition of the sport and all but it matters...we won 9 straight against UAB at one point. A down decade of USM football and we still lead the all time series against UAB.

Bragging about an all time record of 11-8 against UAB isn’t the flex you think it is. UAB was straight up horrible from birth until 2014. And the y’all are still 11-8 all time.

And back to his numbers, the period he was referencing was 2010-2021. I get Mississippi reading comprehension isn’t the best, but that’s the context. Which leads to…. the period of UAB football that was so atrocious that they literally shut the entire program down, 2010-2014, UAB went 3-1 against USM…. Also 36-19 all time against y’all in shooty hoops.

I read it using my Nashville brain I guess...must be that U of A institution south of Birmingham that let you re-start your program but could kill it again anytime they like and I did mention the bad decade of football for us...UAB had more than a bad decade and literally no program for a while. Not much success at all for UAB compared to USM.

(07-30-2022 08:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 08:17 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(07-30-2022 08:15 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  You guys do realize that the AAC contract with ESPN will be renegotiated once Ciny, UCF and Houston leave, right? Like, seriously. You DO know this I hope. I can assure you, within 3 years, AAC will be sucking hind teat. just like CUSA is now. ECU and likely Memphis will be committed to the SBC by then as well.

LOL. Obviously you missed the memo that it was already settled. Try harder

Exactly, things change. Glad you convinced yourself it will never change again.

I would rather be in the AAC's place. ESPiN still has them under contract for the next decade, and don't see that much of a change for the SBC to overtake with everything going on with realignment. I am worried about the Big12 without a contract after 2025.

The SBC just got an extension... with no added money.

This debate is over.

(08-02-2022 08:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The SBC just got an extension... with no added money.

This debate is over.

What? They got an extension last year (to take effect this year) that brought the revenue from 500k to reportedly about 1.2M starting and it was announced during media days that the contract was amended to increase the number of linear games and additional “financial resources”. There’s nothing concrete about the details as they’re still getting ironed out. Some rumors that it will end up close to 2M

The two conferences are not in the same place for sure but the SB added 4 programs and the contract was adjusted to add more games and per school money while the AAC added 6 teams and the contract stayed the same but divided by more teams.

So I guess it depends on what you’re debating.

(08-02-2022 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-02-2022 08:34 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The SBC just got an extension... with no added money.

This debate is over.

What? They got an extension last year (to take effect this year) that brought the revenue from 500k to reportedly about 1.2M starting and it was announced during media days that the contract was amended to increase the number of linear games and additional “financial resources”. There’s nothing concrete about the details as they’re still getting ironed out. Some rumors that it will end up close to 2M

The two conferences are not in the same place for sure but the SB added 4 programs and the contract was adjusted to add more games and per school money while the AAC added 6 teams and the contract stayed the same but divided by more teams.

So I guess it depends on what you’re debating.

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(07-30-2022 10:33 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The AAC is and will continue to be the best of the rest. Is is possible the MWC gets closer? YES. Will the Belt gain or pass CUSA and MAC, yes. Will the belt catch or pass the MWC or AAC? No.

This is the correct post, in fan perspective, money, recruiting and overall football.