People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

That is a problem, why? The above was the primary speculation until they changed the round robin rule for a ccg.

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

(10-01-2022 08:59 PM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

I don’t think that’s a horrible idea. Play 9 games and cycle through each non-division team in four years.

(10-01-2022 11:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:59 PM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

I don’t think that’s a horrible idea. Play 9 games and cycle through each non-division team in four years.

And that would be better than trying to figure out how to get the three rivalries to work.

(10-02-2022 07:54 AM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:59 PM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

I don’t think that’s a horrible idea. Play 9 games and cycle through each non-division team in four years.

And that would be better than trying to figure out how to get the three rivalries to work.

No I would still prefer to have teams have a guarantee to play every SEC opponent at least two times in four years. I would say that the proposed SEC East and West look better than the current divisions. The current SEC West teams will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo and guarantee an annual game with Alabama. The only way that happens is if either Oklahoma or Texas goes to the East (meaning they're split up) and no way that happens.

(10-02-2022 09:19 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 07:54 AM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:59 PM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

I don’t think that’s a horrible idea. Play 9 games and cycle through each non-division team in four years.

And that would be better than trying to figure out how to get the three rivalries to work.

No I would still prefer to have teams have a guarantee to play every SEC opponent at least two times in four years. I would say that the proposed SEC East and West look better than the current divisions. The current SEC West teams will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo and guarantee an annual game with Alabama. The only way that happens is if either Oklahoma or Texas goes to the East (meaning they're split up) and no way that happens.

I wonder what Alabama wants?

I know they’ll get Auburn and Tennessee as their two permanent rivals. The third would most likely be Ole Miss or Miss St. They might even prefer Vanderbilt, who knows.

I actually used to think the SEC would be hard pressed to expand westward because Bama would have to move east and the Miss schools and LSU would lose them from their annual slate. But that was before the push to get rid of divisions. In reality, 5/6 of those western schools are losing Alabama from their slate no matter what.

(10-01-2022 08:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

That is a problem, why? The above was the primary speculation until they changed the round robin rule for a ccg.

We already have a poor rotation system at 14 schools. We don't play each other often enough. I understand getting rid of the permanent rival would improve that, but you would have to do both that and add the 9th game just to get something halfway reasonable.

With 16 and 2 divisions, you could play everyone in the other division once every 4 years. Better than what we have, but we could have a system where you play everyone twice every 4 years. Which is superior?

The East-West format is simple, but antiquated. There's no reason we can't work with a single division.

Besides, at 16 schools and quite possible more(remember you need a format flexible enough to include more schools) you can maintain the important rivals without having to worry so much about geography. Rotating 6 games instead of 2 makes for many more big match-ups and certainly a more regular rotation.

(10-02-2022 09:44 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 09:19 AM)schmolik Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 07:54 AM)Porcine Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 11:26 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:59 PM)Porcine Wrote:  No, we wouldn't have to to do that. The conference is too big to try and play everybody without creating new problems. East-West divisions cover most of the rivalry games fans care about.

I don’t think that’s a horrible idea. Play 9 games and cycle through each non-division team in four years.

And that would be better than trying to figure out how to get the three rivalries to work.

No I would still prefer to have teams have a guarantee to play every SEC opponent at least two times in four years. I would say that the proposed SEC East and West look better than the current divisions. The current SEC West teams will fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo and guarantee an annual game with Alabama. The only way that happens is if either Oklahoma or Texas goes to the East (meaning they're split up) and no way that happens.

I wonder what Alabama wants?

I know they’ll get Auburn and Tennessee as their two permanent rivals. The third would most likely be Ole Miss or Miss St. They might even prefer Vanderbilt, who knows.

I actually used to think the SEC would be hard pressed to expand westward because Bama would have to move east and the Miss schools and LSU would lose them from their annual slate. But that was before the push to get rid of divisions. In reality, 5/6 of those western schools are losing Alabama from their slate no matter what.

Auburn and Tennessee are the 2 primary rivals. LSU and Mississippi State are most likely who we would want to play regularly beyond that.

(10-02-2022 05:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Auburn and Tennessee are the 2 primary rivals. LSU and Mississippi State are most likely who we would want to play regularly beyond that.

Mississippi State more than Mississippi?

(10-02-2022 05:42 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 05:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Auburn and Tennessee are the 2 primary rivals. LSU and Mississippi State are most likely who we would want to play regularly beyond that.

Mississippi State more than Mississippi?

Yes! The 2 schools are 90 miles apart and both sets of players party on the strip in Tuscaloosa and drive to the Golden Moon in Philadelphia MS to play slots. It's called Stark-Vegas for a reason!

(10-01-2022 08:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 08:23 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(10-01-2022 04:27 PM)Porcine Wrote:  People are are trying too hard not to go with the obvious.
East-Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt.
West-Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State.

No, you can't play that many division games. You'd have to have 9 conference games just to be able to play 2 teams from the other division in a given season.

The rotation wouldn't be any better than it is now.

That is a problem, why? The above was the primary speculation until they changed the round robin rule for a ccg.

It's a problem b/c we still haven't played in Athens and we've been in the conference for a decade. It's ridiculous. I don't feel like we should play UGA every single year necessarily, but once in a while would be nice.

(10-02-2022 05:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 05:42 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(10-02-2022 05:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Auburn and Tennessee are the 2 primary rivals. LSU and Mississippi State are most likely who we would want to play regularly beyond that.

Mississippi State more than Mississippi?

Yes! The 2 schools are 90 miles apart and both sets of players party on the strip in Tuscaloosa and drive to the Golden Moon in Philadelphia MS to play slots. It's called Stark-Vegas for a reason!

I have an old friend from Stark-Vegas. The first time she called it that I laughed out loud.