I just find it hard to believe Cincy and Houston are the most penalized teams in the FBS but half the league is in the Top25 of least penalized teams.

The fix is in.

As conference play progresses, I expect AAC refs to be super bias against the leaving team. Call it a tin foil hat theory for now.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/...t/team/876

Fewest Penalties:
Navy - 17 Penalties / 163 Penalty Yards (2nd nationally)
SMU - 21 Penalties / 198 Penalty Yards (4th nationally)
Temple - 24 Penalties / 219 Penalty Yards (9th nationally)
East Carolina - 25 Penalties / 190 Penalty Yards (11th nationally)
Tulane - 26 Penalties / 222 Penalty Yards (15th nationally)
USF - 29 Penalties / 218 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
Memphis - 29 Penalties / 244 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
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UCF - 35 Penalties / 336 Penalty Yards (54th nationally)
Tulsa - 39 Penalties / 391 Penalty Yards (77th nationally)
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Cincy - 54 Penalties / 483 Penalty Yards (128th nationally)
Houston - 59 Penalties / 529 Penalty Yards (131st nationally)

Wow - really reaching on this one.

Show some penalties called that should not have been, then maybe you have something.

Cincinnati has generally been a highly penalized team every year under Fickell.

Title should be - Least disciplined teams

I really don't have a dog in this fight and ECU isn't very good, but I did watch the UCF/SMU game. UCF should have zero complaints with officiating after witnessing their DB's get away with the play they did on that night. Like I said that's an objective observation.

I do believe there is some thread to it. But not to the extent that they are dropping more flags on teams that are leaving.

What I've seen is a bizarre swallowing of whistles especially on the play of the offensive lines of the AAC 2.0 squads. They are allowing teams to mug the front 7 of the D early and often.

Aresco probably wants a remaining team to get the NY6 bid and I wouldn't blame him. Now whether that filters down subliminally or otherwise to the AAC crews, who knows?

(10-10-2022 12:36 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I do believe there is some thread to it. But not to the extent that they are dropping more flags on teams that are leaving.

What I've seen is a bizarre swallowing of whistles especially on the play of the offensive lines of the AAC 2.0 squads. They are allowing teams to mug the front 7 of the D early and often.

Aresco probably wants a remaining team to get the NY6 bid and I wouldn't blame him. Now whether that filters down subliminally or otherwise to the AAC crews, who knows?

This. They could have called holding on Tulsa against UC at least a dozen times if they wanted to. Tulsa had a hard time blocking the Bearcat front 7-- despite getting grabbed around their necks at time Ivan Pace, Jabari Taylor and Eric Philips were still getting to Davis Brinn all day.

It be nice if I could latch onto that theory, as it would mean UH has started cleaning up their mess, but UH pretty much established it's propensity for dumb penalties in all 3 OOC games.

Its pretty hard to blame false starts, running into kicker, holding, pass interference, etc., with all the replay angle available. There've been a few phantom ones to be sure, like blocking in the back wiping out a couple Tank Dell punt returns, but those were OOC as well.

We'll see if the calls start getting "iffy".

(10-10-2022 12:36 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I do believe there is some thread to it. But not to the extent that they are dropping more flags on teams that are leaving.

What I've seen is a bizarre swallowing of whistles especially on the play of the offensive lines of the AAC 2.0 squads. They are allowing teams to mug the front 7 of the D early and often.

Aresco probably wants a remaining team to get the NY6 bid and I wouldn't blame him. Now whether that filters down subliminally or otherwise to the AAC crews, who knows?

NY6 bowl game would only happen if the "remainer" team is highest ranked non-P5 conf champ.

Don't see that happening yet at this point, but still 1/2 the season to go. Lots could change.

I'd say the bigger issue is the penalties that DON'T get called on UC's opponents.

Our D line gets held every play of every game.

The penalties this year seem to be relatively par for the course for UH and Cinci when you look at recent years. Cougars must've sprinkled fairy dust over their team in 2019 though; talk about an outlier. lol

Fewest Penalties Ranking
2021 - Houston #80, Cincinnati #111
2020 - Houston #109, Cincinnati #124
2019 - Houston #17, Cincinnati #127
2018 - Houston #99, Cincinnati #125

If both the defender and the receiver are locked up I don't know how you can call pass interference on either of them.

Granted some of the PI calls we had against us (versus SMU) were legit but not all.

Yet Houston had zero 4th quarter penalties in their "comeback" against Memphis. Especially the pick play winning touchdown.

(10-10-2022 10:31 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just find it hard to believe Cincy and Houston are the most penalized teams in the FBS but half the league is in the Top25 of least penalized teams.

The fix is in.

As conference play progresses, I expect AAC refs to be super bias against the leaving team. Call it a tin foil hat theory for now.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/...t/team/876

Fewest Penalties:
Navy - 17 Penalties / 163 Penalty Yards (2nd nationally)
SMU - 21 Penalties / 198 Penalty Yards (4th nationally)
Temple - 24 Penalties / 219 Penalty Yards (9th nationally)
East Carolina - 25 Penalties / 190 Penalty Yards (11th nationally)
Tulane - 26 Penalties / 222 Penalty Yards (15th nationally)
USF - 29 Penalties / 218 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
Memphis - 29 Penalties / 244 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
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UCF - 35 Penalties / 336 Penalty Yards (54th nationally)
Tulsa - 39 Penalties / 391 Penalty Yards (77th nationally)
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Cincy - 54 Penalties / 483 Penalty Yards (128th nationally)
Houston - 59 Penalties / 529 Penalty Yards (131st nationally)

Problem with that theory is roughly two-thirds of the games played so far are OOC games---meaning AAC refs were not even on the field for a substantial number of those games---probably as much as a third of the total games played to date.

My favorite AAC ref moment of the year was at Tulsa UC had a @ a 30 yard in the air TD pass overturned on replay review. Ref announced that the receiver was pushed out of bounds in the end zone by the defender before the ball got there. Admitted that they failed to call the illegal contact 30 yards downfield from the line of scrimmage. These guys must be cheap because they aren't very good.

(10-10-2022 10:31 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just find it hard to believe Cincy and Houston are the most penalized teams in the FBS but half the league is in the Top25 of least penalized teams.

The fix is in.

As conference play progresses, I expect AAC refs to be super bias against the leaving team. Call it a tin foil hat theory for now.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/...t/team/876

Fewest Penalties:
Navy - 17 Penalties / 163 Penalty Yards (2nd nationally)
SMU - 21 Penalties / 198 Penalty Yards (4th nationally)
Temple - 24 Penalties / 219 Penalty Yards (9th nationally)
East Carolina - 25 Penalties / 190 Penalty Yards (11th nationally)
Tulane - 26 Penalties / 222 Penalty Yards (15th nationally)
USF - 29 Penalties / 218 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
Memphis - 29 Penalties / 244 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
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UCF - 35 Penalties / 336 Penalty Yards (54th nationally)
Tulsa - 39 Penalties / 391 Penalty Yards (77th nationally)
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Cincy - 54 Penalties / 483 Penalty Yards (128th nationally)
Houston - 59 Penalties / 529 Penalty Yards (131st nationally)

Just watch the Tulsa game. It was a disgrace.

Hmmm, I can just see the meeting between Aresco and Bryan Platt, the supervisor of the AAC football officials...

Aresco: "Hey forget everything that I've said about the AAC being P6 and the need to be included in the playoffs, Just go and get Cincinnati and Houston and let them know I don't tolerate any member leaving... Oh hey, don't forget about those guys from that "civilConnFLict" thing".

Bryan Platt: "But sir, UConn left four years ago...".

Aresco: "...Don't interrupt me, I don't want to forget what... What were we talking about?"

(10-12-2022 02:47 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  

(10-10-2022 10:31 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just find it hard to believe Cincy and Houston are the most penalized teams in the FBS but half the league is in the Top25 of least penalized teams.

The fix is in.

As conference play progresses, I expect AAC refs to be super bias against the leaving team. Call it a tin foil hat theory for now.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/...t/team/876

Fewest Penalties:
Navy - 17 Penalties / 163 Penalty Yards (2nd nationally)
SMU - 21 Penalties / 198 Penalty Yards (4th nationally)
Temple - 24 Penalties / 219 Penalty Yards (9th nationally)
East Carolina - 25 Penalties / 190 Penalty Yards (11th nationally)
Tulane - 26 Penalties / 222 Penalty Yards (15th nationally)
USF - 29 Penalties / 218 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
Memphis - 29 Penalties / 244 Penalty Yards (24th nationally)
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UCF - 35 Penalties / 336 Penalty Yards (54th nationally)
Tulsa - 39 Penalties / 391 Penalty Yards (77th nationally)
.
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Cincy - 54 Penalties / 483 Penalty Yards (128th nationally)
Houston - 59 Penalties / 529 Penalty Yards (131st nationally)

Just watch the Tulsa game. It was a disgrace.

Last night's AAC game was fairly clean:
Temple: 5 penalties for 33 yds
UCF: 4 penalties for 36 yds