(01-03-2023 04:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  So what is the endgame here? Are these Jordan votes really going to go Jeffries over McCarthy?

I think they will threaten, but I would be flabbergasted if they actually did that. But who the hell knows?

It took 133 ballots for the 34th US Congress to coalesce around Nathaniel P Banks for Speaker!

https://history.house.gov/People/Office/...e-Ballots/

(01-03-2023 04:25 PM)solohawks Wrote:  so who caves? or are they literally going to do this for 2 years?

Better than them passing bills that will inly **** things up even more.

(01-03-2023 04:25 PM)solohawks Wrote:  so who caves? or are they literally going to do this for 2 years?

No bills or stupid legislation passing is a good thing in the meanwhile

(01-03-2023 04:26 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  the McCarthy people are allegedly seeing if they can get democrats to cooperate and not be present to vote, thus lowering the majority needed to get him elected. McCarthy seems to be the one willing to sell out to the Left to get/maintain power.

They did that for Boner but for McCarthy?

(01-03-2023 04:30 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  It took 133 ballots for the 34th US Congress to coalesce around Nathaniel P Banks for Speaker!

https://history.house.gov/People/Office/...e-Ballots/

Maybe they can set a record!

Maybe they will start governing around Mid-February.

(01-03-2023 04:23 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  So what is the endgame here? Are these Jordan votes really going to go Jeffries over McCarthy?

The play may be for McCarthy to go over to 25 of the more moderate democrats and ask them what they want.

Yes!

3rd Vote...Jordan 20 so far this time!

Quote: BREAKING: Chip Roy nominates Jim Jordan for House Speaker pic.twitter.com/TXY5hWEQ1u

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 3, 2023

McCarthy now losing one more vote in 3rd round. "Others" up to 20 with about 4 votes left.

This is not going to end well for the Pubs. They already look stupid. Surprise!

Wrong direction ...that doesn't look good.

Pennsylvania just laid down the template
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsy...30103.html

Jeffries does this he gets to go on all the MSM talk shows and be praised for putting the country above the politics unlike the Republicans and becomes a shoe in for the Speakership when the Dems get the House back

So, Republicans don't vote in lock step? This is what Congress is supposed to do. Disagree and negotiate. If Democrats were so smart and think McCarthy should lead the House, then vote for him.

Exactly what I wanted the left to do with Pelosi in 2020. They aren't going to actually allow Jeffries to win this vote, but they'll flex enough power to either get someone else or get insane levels of concessions (and that number grows each time they make this fail). The left wing of the Dems are useless and for all their bluster they cave to Pelosi and company every single time the going gets even the slightest bit tough. I'm extremely jealous, because you don't ever get anything just going along.

The wrong direction was a strategy to make McCarthy look even weaker. Expect to see it get to 21-25 in the 4th vote I bet.

(01-03-2023 05:02 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  The wrong direction was a strategy to make McCarthy look even weaker. Expect to see it get to 21-25 in the 4th vote I bet.

At a certain point McCarthy will make a deal with the Dems

He wants to be Speaker and isnt going to let this go down any other way

(01-03-2023 05:02 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  So, Republicans don't vote in lock step? This is what Congress is supposed to do. Disagree and negotiate. If Democrats were so smart and think McCarthy should lead the House, then vote for him.

Exactly. This is how a Republic supposed to function. Better than rubber stamping everything and status quo continue unabated