SEC:

4. Louisiana State 100,597
5. Tennessee 100,532
7. Alabama 98,981
8. Texas A&M 97,213
9. Georgia 92,746
10. Florida 87,180
12. Auburn 85,203
16. South Carolina 75,785
18. Arkansas 73,155
25. Mississippi 62,575
26. Kentucky 60,289
36. Missouri 54,525
37. Mississippi State 53,822
72. Vanderbilt 29,193
Grand Total: 1,071,596
Average Per School: 76,543



Big 10:

1. Michigan 110,246
2. Penn State 107,379
3. Ohio State 104,663
11. Nebraska 86,637
17. Wisconsin 74,159
19. Iowa 69,250
20. Michigan State 69,047
29. Purdue 57,129
40. Rutgers 50,756
43. Indiana 46,906
46. Minnesota 45,019
50. Illinois 43,048
66. Maryland 31,934
73. Northwestern 28,697
Grand Total: 924,870
Average Per School: 66,062


Big 12:

6. Texas 100,242
13. Oklahoma 83,835
28. Iowa State 57,344
30. Texas Tech 56,344
34. Oklahoma State 54,735
39. Kansas State 51,165
42. West Virginia 47,658
44. Texas Christian 46,562
45. Baylor 45,463
49. Kansas 43,076
Grand Total: 586,424
Average Per School: 58,642


ACC:

14. Clemson 80,694
21. Florida State 67,254
23. Virginia Tech 64,254
31. N.C. State 55,924
32. Miami 54,964
35. Pittsburgh 54,710
41. North Carolina 47,933
52. Louisville 41,692
55. Syracuse 40,828
56. Virginia 40,681
62. Boston College 35,706
64. Georgia Tech 34,408
68. Wake Forest 30,053
84. Duke 24,505
Grand Total: 673,606
Average Per School: 48,115

*15. Notre Dame 76,193


PAC 12:

22. Southern Cal 64,487
24. Washington 62,933
35. Oregon 54,950
38. Utah 52,057
47. Arizona 44,209
48. Arizona State 43,081
51. Colorado 42,847
53. California Los Angeles 41,593
59. California 38,596
67. Oregon State 31,498
69. Stanford 29,965
80. Washington State 26,185
Grand Total: 532,401
Average Per School: 44,367


Now Let's adjust those for upcoming moves:

SEC:

Adds:
#6 Texas 100,242
#13 Oklahoma 83,835

This adds to the SEC Average Attendance by a +1937.

Big 10:

Adds:
#23 Southern California 64,487
#53 California Los Angeles 41,593

This reduces the Big 10 Average Attendance by a -1,680.


Big 12:

Loses:
#6 Texas 100,242
#13 Oklahoma 83,835

Adds:
#27 Brigham Young 59,674
#54 Central Florida 41,542
#60 Cincinnati 38,117
#81 Houston 25,394

This reduces the Big 12 Average Attendance by a -11,386


ACC: Stands as is.



PAC 12:

Loses:
#23 Southern California 64,487
#53 California Los Angeles 41,593

This reduces the PAC 12 Average Attendance by a -1579

To me, this is one of the strongest strength of a program litmus tests. If South Carolina and Arkansas are the medium programs with 75k and 73k average attendance, then any program with numbers better than that should pay for themselves. That essentially leaves:
1.Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
11. Nebraska
14. Clemson
15. Notre Dame
17. Wisconsin

Realistic additions below this average are:
21. Florida State 67k
23. Virginia Tech 64k
24. Washington 62k
35. Oregon 54k
41. North Carolina 47k

(01-28-2023 06:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  To me, this is one of the strongest strength of a program litmus tests. If South Carolina and Arkansas are the medium programs with 75k and 73k average attendance, then any program with numbers better than that should pay for themselves. That essentially leaves:
1.Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
11. Nebraska
14. Clemson
15. Notre Dame
17. Wisconsin

Realistic additions below this average are:
21. Florida State 67k
23. Virginia Tech 64k
24. Washington 62k
35. Oregon 54k
41. North Carolina 47k

Florida State's stadium can hold 79,600. In the SEC it would be full. Agree with your assessment that attendance is an indicator of strength.

If we were moving to one super conference the Big 10 schools listed would get us there with FSU and Clemson, and Notre Dame.

But the Big 10 will use expansion to enhance academic associations. The SEC will use it to enhance control of the SE/SW and add profitable schools. Ideally that would be FSU, Clemson, UNC and Va Tech. But to cement UNC somebody might have to take at least Virginia.

(01-28-2023 07:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 06:39 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  To me, this is one of the strongest strength of a program litmus tests. If South Carolina and Arkansas are the medium programs with 75k and 73k average attendance, then any program with numbers better than that should pay for themselves. That essentially leaves:
1.Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
11. Nebraska
14. Clemson
15. Notre Dame
17. Wisconsin

Realistic additions below this average are:
21. Florida State 67k
23. Virginia Tech 64k
24. Washington 62k
35. Oregon 54k
41. North Carolina 47k

Florida State's stadium can hold 79,600. In the SEC it would be full. Agree with your assessment that attendance is an indicator of strength.

If we were moving to one super conference the Big 10 schools listed would get us there with FSU and Clemson, and Notre Dame.

But the Big 10 will use expansion to enhance academic associations. The SEC will use it to enhance control of the SE/SW and add profitable schools. Ideally that would be FSU, Clemson, UNC and Va Tech. But to cement UNC somebody might have to take at least Virginia.

I was thinking a Virginia and/or a Duke to cement that area. I see the B1G grabbing Georgia Tech, Miami and, if available, Virginia, North Carolina and Duke. I definitely see the SEC fortifying their region with FSU, Clemson, UNC and a Virginia school.

Big 12 would add any valuable leftovers to strengthen their eastern side. Heck, they could add some western PAC teams to GOR a true coast-to-coast conference. That all depends on the latest PAC tv deal currently being negotiated.