(06-03-2023 09:00 AM)goofus Wrote:  Yes, I don't get it. If the Big 12 adds nobody else, leaving the Big East makes little sense for UConn.

Now if the Big 12 adds the 4C schools, then maybe things change for UConn. At that point the Big 12 is clearly at least 4th, maybe 3rd among P5 conferences. If UConn can get its football team into a P4 conference, it's worth considering.

UConn would take a Big 12 invite in a heartbeat. However, it's not clear that the Big 12 presidents want to add UConn (even though it's pretty clear that Yormark does), especially if the Four Corners teams teams join the conference.

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

Memphis would not meet the ACC's academic standards.

(06-01-2023 02:33 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Supposedly, trilly donovan is Matt Norlander of CBS Sports.

Really?

(06-03-2023 10:08 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

Memphis would not meet the ACC's academic standards.

Those kinda went out the door with Louisville. At this point they need to make some move and be proactive.

(06-03-2023 10:20 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 02:33 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Supposedly, trilly donovan is Matt Norlander of CBS Sports.

Really?

Yea, the Field of 68 podcast outed him.

(06-03-2023 10:21 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 10:08 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

Memphis would not meet the ACC's academic standards.

Those kinda went out the door with Louisville. At this point they need to make some move and be proactive.

The only schools mentioned outside of the Pac 10 were WVU and SMU. WVU probably because of old foes SU, Pitt, and VaTech (would sell tickets) and SMU because they’d bring Texas subs to the ACCN.

If somebody absolutely forced me to expand the ACC, I’d take UConn, SMU, Cal, and Stanford. UConn is around NYC and their hoops are back, SMU for Texas subs and institutional fit, Cal and Stanford are elite and can afford the travel plus Cali subs.

This would probably send Colorado and the Arizona schools to the Big XII and leave Oregon and Washington in a desperate spot. Maybe they sign the shorter GOR and join the Big XII or the longer with the ACC. It would be interesting.

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

ACC wont do anything unless ND is involved. Why? Because they need teams that would increase their TV deal like ND. Also the ACCN wouldn't increase with UCONN or Memphis, but would be divided by two more teams.... It is all $$dollar$ and cent$ for the ACC at this point.

(06-03-2023 11:18 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

ACC wont do anything unless ND is involved. Why? Because they need teams that would increase their TV deal like ND. Also the ACCN wouldn't increase with UCONN or Memphis, but would be divided by two more teams.... It is all $$dollar$ and cent$ for the ACC at this point.

...when you have at least half of your members wanting to exit the conference, I doubt there will be any consensus on voting in any new ACC members (see USC rejecting adds a few years back, knowing they were fixing to bolt)... the ND angle is unique here, but... I think they may be looking for a different spot as well...

It makes total sense for UCONN to want to exit the Big East for an all-sport invite for the B12, and even for a basketball-only invite to the B12 (with the hope of all-sport invite) one day. The money will be better. And, I believe, UConn's basketball will maintain its quality with move.

BUT...the UCONN / BIG12 marriage isn't a plan A for either of them.

The reason why an invite from the B12 isn't a sure thing is that UCONN doesn't improve the football quality even if it adds value to the basketball quality. And expanding with UCONN isn't going to be that big bang the B12 are looking for in stealing another power 5 school. Thus the hesitancy on the B12's part - not a plan A for them.

The reason why UCONN isn't sure they want/will accept an invite is because over the long haul they think an invite from the ACC (even a magnificent 7-less ACC) is a better all sport fit for UCONN. And the administration are holding out for the ACC. Also the increased travel costs are playing into equation too - something is gonna have to be sacrificed to increase the travel budget for B12. Thus the hesitancy on UCONN's part - not a plan A for them.

Thus why we didn't hear any news out the B12 meetings. UCONN to B12 won't be happening, at least until other stuff happens. Both want to wait.

No disrespect to UConn but I think Memphis would be a better fit in the Big 12

(06-03-2023 01:05 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  It makes total sense for UCONN to want to exit the Big East for an all-sport invite for the B12, and even for a basketball-only invite to the B12 (with the hope of all-sport invite) one day. The money will be better. And, I believe, UConn's basketball will maintain its quality with move.

BUT...the UCONN / BIG12 marriage isn't a plan A for either of them.

The reason why an invite from the B12 isn't a sure thing is that UCONN doesn't improve the football quality even if it adds value to the basketball quality. And expanding with UCONN isn't going to be that big bang the B12 are looking for in stealing another power 5 school. Thus the hesitancy on the B12's part - not a plan A for them.

The reason why UCONN isn't sure they want/will accept an invite is because over the long haul they think an invite from the ACC (even a magnificent 7-less ACC) is a better all sport fit for UCONN. And the administration are holding out for the ACC. Also the increased travel costs are playing into equation too - something is gonna have to be sacrificed to increase the travel budget for B12. Thus the hesitancy on UCONN's part - not a plan A for them.

Thus why we didn't hear any news out the B12 meetings. UCONN to B12 won't be happening, at least until other stuff happens. Both want to wait.

not CURRENTLY, but... a few things to consider -

The Texas connection allows for recruiting by UCONN into the Lone Star, so that may well boost the football fortunes of the Huskies, if they of course have the NIL stuff in place.

With Mora there now, I think they were already a good bit more competitive last season, and their ceiling is quite high as long as he is there.

They have shown that football CAN work in Storrs - a Fiesta Bowl appearance as Exhibit A.

AND I think their fan base is pretty solid, and will grow as they do...

so perhaps all that morphs the Huskies into a decent add for football with a few years of 'transition'...

(06-03-2023 10:08 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

Memphis would not meet the ACC's academic standards.

Neither did Louisville. Memphis is at the same level as Louisville.

UCONN football might improve with a Texas connection, but its probably more likely they will be like Rutgers and Maryland in the B1G - bottom dwellers with occasional adequate years added for other reasons.

Two other things to consider with UCONN:

One Plus: The highly rumored UCONN / ESPN connection - ESPN advocating for the School

One Negative: No desire at a State level to increase athletic funding to a level that is needed in the P5. Its always been a problem and still is.

(06-03-2023 01:33 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  UCONN football might improve with a Texas connection, but its probably more likely they will be like Rutgers and Maryland in the B1G - bottom dwellers with occasional adequate years added for other reasons.

Two other things to consider with UCONN:

One Plus: The highly rumored UCONN / ESPN connection - ESPN advocating for the School

One Negative: No desire at a State level to increase athletic funding to a level that is needed in the P5. Its always been a problem and still is.

...correct in that they won't be a 'main player' in the XII, but they COULD build up to be an 'in the mix' type program, and consistently get bowl eligible... ...and as to the ESPN angle, I go on the UCONN 'smackboard (Boneyard) quite a bit (not a member), as they were 'all up in' the last few rounds of realignment, even though they really weren't - they honestly should have been tapped for the ACC a good bit back. But on their smackboard, they have a general 'distain' for ESPN, and feel they are ANTI-Uconn... We have a few Huskies on this board who could expound on that (Shizzle being one who also is a stalwart of the Boneyard) way better than I...

I'd like an all sport invite for UConn. I'm really partial to basketball and baseball.

Any UCONN fans out there to tell us what the fans want?

Do you actually want to leave the Big East?

I just find it hard to believe.

(06-03-2023 09:00 AM)goofus Wrote:  Yes, I don't get it. If the Big 12 adds nobody else, leaving the Big East makes little sense for UConn.

Now if the Big 12 adds the 4C schools, then maybe things change for UConn. At that point the Big 12 is clearly at least 4th, maybe 3rd among P5 conferences. If UConn can get its football team into a P4 conference, it's worth considering.

hmmm

$50m a year - big 12
~ $5m a year - BE

I'd stay in the big east, the travel is better and they don't have to visit all those sweaty, tropical climes in November.

(06-03-2023 10:21 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 10:08 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:55 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  ACC should be more proactive with UConn and Memphis IMo.

Memphis would not meet the ACC's academic standards.

Those kinda went out the door with Louisville. At this point they need to make some move and be proactive.

Louisville would be an average nbig12 school academically. Memphis would be the worst school in the big 12 (and all of the P5) Academically, and by such a large margin that they were actually told "we didn't invite you b/c of your Academics". By the Ultimate Truck Stop Conference. Memphis is working diligently on improving things, and I think that they will, but they need more than 21 months to right that ship. If the ACC decides to add schools now but plans to pocket some of the additional money, they'll go for schools like UConn and UCF, or perhaps a large group of Pac schools.

(06-03-2023 10:58 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 10:20 AM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  

(06-01-2023 02:33 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Supposedly, trilly donovan is Matt Norlander of CBS Sports.

Really?

Yea, the Field of 68 podcast outed him.

https://twitter.com/TheFieldOf68/status/...3126805504

their poll looks pretty even divided between several possibilities

(06-03-2023 01:05 PM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  It makes total sense for UCONN to want to exit the Big East for an all-sport invite for the B12, and even for a basketball-only invite to the B12 (with the hope of all-sport invite) one day. The money will be better. And, I believe, UConn's basketball will maintain its quality with move.

BUT...the UCONN / BIG12 marriage isn't a plan A for either of them.

The reason why an invite from the B12 isn't a sure thing is that UCONN doesn't improve the football quality even if it adds value to the basketball quality. And expanding with UCONN isn't going to be that big bang the B12 are looking for in stealing another power 5 school. Thus the hesitancy on the B12's part - not a plan A for them.

The reason why UCONN isn't sure they want/will accept an invite is because over the long haul they think an invite from the ACC (even a magnificent 7-less ACC) is a better all sport fit for UCONN. And the administration are holding out for the ACC. Also the increased travel costs are playing into equation too - something is gonna have to be sacrificed to increase the travel budget for B12. Thus the hesitancy on UCONN's part - not a plan A for them.

Thus why we didn't hear any news out the B12 meetings. UCONN to B12 won't be happening, at least until other stuff happens. Both want to wait.

Whatever is valuable and leftover of the ACC after the B1G and SEC take their picks, will join the Big 12.