(06-03-2023 07:49 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:31 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You guys do know RFK Jr has NO chance at all in the primaries?

I have a general sense that you are right, but I am struggling to come up with reasons why.

The best that I can think of is that the unions will turn out and assert control over each of the Democrat state primaries/caucuses. And I do see that as a real possibility - - the Biden regime has been a reliable puppet for union interests.

But beyond that, I cannot think of any Democrat constituency that would want to stick with Joe Biden - - the leftist-controlled media included. And I also cannot think of any strong alternative to Joe Biden within the establishment Democrat stable. Certainly not Harris. Newsom? I doubt it. Whitmer? Perhaps, but boy is she unpleasant. Klobuchar? Same problem. The rest are too old (Warren, Sanders) or too sane (Gabbard, Delaney) to be a real option.

I only thing that I am sure of is that there is a near-zero chance that Joe Biden will end up being the 2024 Democrat presidential nominee. The Democrats are in disarray, more so even than the Republicans. I don’t know why RFK, Jr. wouldn’t have as good a shot as any.

superdelegates

(06-03-2023 12:03 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Very likely has my vote if its RFK Jr vs DeSantis. To me DeSantis is 95% Bush and why would I vote for anyone that reminds me of a top 3 worse president in my lifetime. At this point RFK Jr is the only democrat I would vote for because I dont think the party can control him

Absolutely NO CHANCE for RFK. If you think for one minute the Democratic Religion who has spent years cultivating and brain washing their followers are going to let a free thinker come in and question their fake legitimacy then you definitely are smoking the good stuff.

SEE ANIMAL FARM by Orwell for reference

those stating he has zero chance for being the nom are correct…

why?

it would absolutely ‘throttle’ all the work put into ……… wait for it, AM ……….. you know what’s coming ……… @>270EVsBlueBakedInn(117) ... (AM) …

(06-03-2023 12:03 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Very likely has my vote if its RFK Jr vs DeSantis. To me DeSantis is 95% Bush and why would I vote for anyone that reminds me of a top 3 worse president in my lifetime. At this point RFK Jr is the only democrat I would vote for because I dont think the party can control him

Why would anyone take that chance?

Don't like this guy but if it looks like a Trump is going to win in a rout when my state has its primary I will take a Dem ballot and vote for him or whoever Biden's top challenger is.

I expect that Texas will not be close either, so I will probably take a democrat ballot and vote for him as the most nearly sane democrat in whatever field there may be. It means punting local elections which break 75-25 republican so the only vote that mdd as Lea a difference is the republican primary. And if you do not take a republican ballot in the primary, you can’t vote in any republican runoffs.

Then probably vote my usual libertarian in the general if it’s Trump, but might vote R if it’s DeSantis. If any republican needs my vote in Texas, he/she is hopeless nationally. If democrats win in 2024, it’s time to start looking overseas.

(06-03-2023 07:49 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-03-2023 07:31 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You guys do know RFK Jr has NO chance at all in the primaries?

I have a general sense that you are right, but I am struggling to come up with reasons why.

The best that I can think of is that the unions will turn out and assert control over each of the Democrat state primaries/caucuses. And I do see that as a real possibility - - the Biden regime has been a reliable puppet for union interests.

But beyond that, I cannot think of any Democrat constituency that would want to stick with Joe Biden - - the leftist-controlled media included. And I also cannot think of any strong alternative to Joe Biden within the establishment Democrat stable. Certainly not Harris. Newsom? I doubt it. Whitmer? Perhaps, but boy is she unpleasant. Klobuchar? Same problem. The rest are too old (Warren, Sanders) or too sane (Gabbard, Delaney) to be a real option.

I only thing that I am sure of is that there is a near-zero chance that Joe Biden will end up being the 2024 Democrat presidential nominee. The Democrats are in disarray, more so even than the Republicans. I don’t know why RFK, Jr. wouldn’t have as good a shot as any.

I'm not 100% sure I wouldnt vote for him over Trump. I would need to see if he's just lip service on a couple issues.

Where we different on Trump is I understand his over the top EVERYTHING....

in his business that is what's needed. I don't care if he says things that are hyperbole or not 100% truthful...on things that he wasn't elected to do. I knew the man was this way before I voted for him and wasn't expecting it to change.

I care about doing what you told the American voters or doing it the best you can. Where I missed on Trump was the real hate the left had for him beating Hillary. I personally thought "President" Trump would get the democrats to work with him on issues that he ran on that were mostly democrat issues 20+ years ago....hate was more powerful.

I'm not a republican and I vote issues and often that can be a republican or democrat. Today it would take a democrat in the same line as RFK Jr to earn my vote. If I voted democrat for senate or congress and they only voted or supported party lines. I would never vote for them again.

A lot of what I care about are democrat issues and I have a lot of issues that are republican. The fact no one is willing to do the things that are best for the country and not them makes me want to stay home. I can see where some of my views (like abortion) might not be what the country needs.

Everything is VS and I honestly believe when Trump was elected he would have been a President to work with both sides. That was not going to happen because both sides hated him for their own reasons..."me, me, me reasons. Along with his own mouth that I wish he would have changed but knew it wouldnt

Anyone with half a brain is a serious threat to Biden/ Harris ticket . If You can’t see the only reason He picked Her is that She’s not a threat for Him

(06-03-2023 01:04 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I expect that Texas will not be close either, so I will probably take a democrat ballot and vote for him as the most nearly sane democrat in whatever field there may be. It means punting local elections which break 75-25 republican so the only vote that mdd as Lea a difference is the republican primary. And if you do not take a republican ballot in the primary, you can’t vote in any republican runoffs.

Then probably vote my usual libertarian in the general if it’s Trump, but might vote R if it’s DeSantis. If any republican needs my vote in Texas, he/she is hopeless nationally. If democrats win in 2024, it’s time to start looking overseas.

Then you will vote for a democrat and the country eill continue to go to shite but hey your scruples will be intact.

Congrats to what country will you flee?

(06-04-2023 10:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Then you will vote for a democrat and the country eill continue to go to shite but hey your scruples will be intact.
Congrats to what country will you flee?

I'm not voting for a democrat except as the least dangerous alternative among the democrats. And I don't think republicans are all that great anymore. I expect them to provide competent opposition, and they don't.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but my enemies need better enemies.