AAC is paying Navy 5.3M for 2 home FB games,
now I know there more going on here
other schools are getting 7.3 to 8M, but at least 1M is BB credits
if you count conf road games, that 5 or 6 for Navy, 10 total games for other schools

(06-19-2023 10:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  AAC is paying Navy 5.3M for 2 home FB games,
now I know there more going on here
other schools are getting 7.3 to 8M, but at least 1M is BB credits
if you count conf road games, that 5 or 6 for Navy, 10 total games for other schools

https://csnbbs.com/thread-969720.html

(06-19-2023 10:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  AAC is paying Navy 5.3M for 2 home FB games,
now I know there more going on here
other schools are getting 7.3 to 8M, but at least 1M is BB credits
if you count conf road games, that 5 or 6 for Navy, 10 total games for other schools

How is it only for 2 home games? The rest of their home games are sold to CBSSN, right?

Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

What the AAC is paying out compared to what the Sunbelt is paying out should shut all those fans up who come on our board and talk about being our equals. It’s not even in the same universe.

(06-20-2023 08:28 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-19-2023 10:27 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  AAC is paying Navy 5.3M for 2 home FB games,
now I know there more going on here
other schools are getting 7.3 to 8M, but at least 1M is BB credits
if you count conf road games, that 5 or 6 for Navy, 10 total games for other schools

How is it only for 2 home games? The rest of their home games are sold to CBSSN, right?

For the sake of full disclosure, this is what I replied to similar post over on the silly scenarios board:

Quote:Well, no not really.

Rule #1, be clear about media rights money and total conference distribution.

The 2020-2021 $5,332,112 was total conference distribution.

Now, for Navy in a non-bowl year, that's pretty straightforward: a "football-only" share of the media money and a share of the CFP $.

The Form 990 shows us that the media revenue was $52,156,030. 1/11th of that, and football-only hypothesized at 70%....The math works out that Navy got $3,319,020 of media money and $2 million of CFP money. That will work backwards to fit all the other numbers, too.

But what is that media money? Well, the lion's share is the primary rights deal with Disney that includes the Notre Dame game in even-numbered years, and one other NMCMS game. But some portion is ALSO the CBSSN-AAC deal for the "Navy tier" We don't know how much, probably pales in comparison, but the media rights money in the conference coffers (and some small number to the other 10 football-playing members) means that ALL of Navy's games are counted.

But CBSSN isn't Nielsen rated, unfortunately, so even if I knew how much money the "Navy tier" got the AAC, I couldn't say if they were worth it.

The AAC controls all home games of Navy.
The two on Disney that we can count, were BYU and Tulsa, totalling 1,574,000 viewers. That's 7.4% of the conference's viewers. Fell a little short of pulling our weight in that COVID-disrupted year.
Of course, Navy's three away conference games (Tulane, ECU, SMU) pulled even more viewers. If you credit both home and away teams in-conference, that puts us safely in "pulling our weight".

One of the AAC schools had ZERO viewers of conference football games in 2020, and we still gave that school $7.6 million.

I have no reason to think poorly of the question -- the situation just isn't as transparent as it could be.
So a little teaching mode.

(06-20-2023 09:52 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

clt says they read every post on this chat page

(06-20-2023 06:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 09:52 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

clt says they read every post on this chat page

So lets do a Wolf Call. The Sun Belt sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(06-20-2023 07:40 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 06:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 09:52 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

clt says they read every post on this chat page

So lets do a Wolf Call. The Sun Belt sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Living rent free in our heads and it’s still a nicer neighborhood than anywhere in Memphis.

does Navy deal with CBS go thru conf office,
or it paid separately to Navy

(06-20-2023 02:00 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  What the AAC is paying out compared to what the Sunbelt is paying out should shut all those fans up who come on our board and talk about being our equals. It’s not even in the same universe.

That's one way to see it. I can't help but see the fact that the SBC was making a fraction of what the AAC makes, yet they have become just as competitive as the AAC in 2 of the 3 major sports. SBC is arguably better than the AAC in the #1 sport football, after realignment.

Say the 500K per SBC school is true. If I'm an AAC official or AD, I'm asking myself exactly what are we doing wrong that schools making 500K were able to become our competitive rivals. Take away Cincy and UCF, based on the AAC's 7M per school to SBC's 500K per school, this still should have never been close. I'm also asking myself, what is the SBC doing right. Many of their institutions have become just as competitive, with a few out performing most AAC counterparts, while making 1/14th of what each AAC member makes.

It is believed that the current payout per SBC team is around 1.5M to 2M per school. These numbers have not been confirmed by the conference. If I'm Sunbelt leadership, I would let 500K per school continue to be the assumed payout and adopt the motto's "Doing more with less", "We do more with less", "Where less equals more". As long as each SBC institution is content with whatever the payout is, the rumored number doesn't matter.

You are correct about the AAC and SBC payout not being in the same universe. Considering the growing competitive strength of the SBC and the rapid pace of realignment. My question is how much longer will that be the case?

I am not discrediting the AAC's achievements. I am just acknowledging the fact that the SBC clawed their way into the competitive conversation. At some point the money may reflect that reality. Considering market sizes and viewership numbers, I assume AAC will continue to make more Media bucks than SBC. I do believe the AAC's 7M to SBC's 500K/2M will somewhat balance out in the next decade, if not sooner.

(06-20-2023 09:00 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 07:40 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 06:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 09:52 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

clt says they read every post on this chat page

So lets do a Wolf Call. The Sun Belt sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Living rent free in our heads and it’s still a nicer neighborhood than anywhere in Memphis.

It worked.

(06-21-2023 05:42 AM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 02:00 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  What the AAC is paying out compared to what the Sunbelt is paying out should shut all those fans up who come on our board and talk about being our equals. It’s not even in the same universe.

That's one way to see it. I can't help but see the fact that the SBC was making a fraction of what the AAC makes, yet they have become just as competitive as the AAC in 2 of the 3 major sports. SBC is arguably better than the AAC in the #1 sport football, after realignment.

Say the 500K per SBC school is true. If I'm an AAC official or AD, I'm asking myself exactly what are we doing wrong that schools making 500K were able to become our competitive rivals. Take away Cincy and UCF, based on the AAC's 7M per school to SBC's 500K per school, this still should have never been close. I'm also asking myself, what is the SBC doing right. Many of their institutions have become just as competitive, with a few out performing most AAC counterparts, while making 1/14th of what each AAC member makes.

It is believed that the current payout per SBC team is around 1.5M to 2M per school. These numbers have not been confirmed by the conference. If I'm Sunbelt leadership, I would let 500K per school continue to be the assumed payout and adopt the motto's "Doing more with less", "We do more with less", "Where less equals more". As long as each SBC institution is content with whatever the payout is, the rumored number doesn't matter.

You are correct about the AAC and SBC payout not being in the same universe. Considering the growing competitive strength of the SBC and the rapid pace of realignment. My question is how much longer will that be the case?

I am not discrediting the AAC's achievements. I am just acknowledging the fact that the SBC clawed their way into the competitive conversation. At some point the money may reflect that reality. Considering market sizes and viewership numbers, I assume AAC will continue to make more Media bucks than SBC. I do believe the AAC's 7M to SBC's 500K/2M will somewhat balance out in the next decade, if not sooner.

There are 2 major sports in college athletics.

(06-21-2023 07:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 05:42 AM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 02:00 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  What the AAC is paying out compared to what the Sunbelt is paying out should shut all those fans up who come on our board and talk about being our equals. It’s not even in the same universe.

That's one way to see it. I can't help but see the fact that the SBC was making a fraction of what the AAC makes, yet they have become just as competitive as the AAC in 2 of the 3 major sports. SBC is arguably better than the AAC in the #1 sport football, after realignment.

Say the 500K per SBC school is true. If I'm an AAC official or AD, I'm asking myself exactly what are we doing wrong that schools making 500K were able to become our competitive rivals. Take away Cincy and UCF, based on the AAC's 7M per school to SBC's 500K per school, this still should have never been close. I'm also asking myself, what is the SBC doing right. Many of their institutions have become just as competitive, with a few out performing most AAC counterparts, while making 1/14th of what each AAC member makes.

It is believed that the current payout per SBC team is around 1.5M to 2M per school. These numbers have not been confirmed by the conference. If I'm Sunbelt leadership, I would let 500K per school continue to be the assumed payout and adopt the motto's "Doing more with less", "We do more with less", "Where less equals more". As long as each SBC institution is content with whatever the payout is, the rumored number doesn't matter.

You are correct about the AAC and SBC payout not being in the same universe. Considering the growing competitive strength of the SBC and the rapid pace of realignment. My question is how much longer will that be the case?

I am not discrediting the AAC's achievements. I am just acknowledging the fact that the SBC clawed their way into the competitive conversation. At some point the money may reflect that reality. Considering market sizes and viewership numbers, I assume AAC will continue to make more Media bucks than SBC. I do believe the AAC's 7M to SBC's 500K/2M will somewhat balance out in the next decade, if not sooner.

There are 2 major sports in college athletics.

I don't disagree. Two big money generators. I personally still look at baseball as the third. For the love of the sport, not for the revenue it generates, which is not much for most schools.

(06-21-2023 07:33 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 05:42 AM)AvgSportsFan Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 02:00 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  What the AAC is paying out compared to what the Sunbelt is paying out should shut all those fans up who come on our board and talk about being our equals. It’s not even in the same universe.

That's one way to see it. I can't help but see the fact that the SBC was making a fraction of what the AAC makes, yet they have become just as competitive as the AAC in 2 of the 3 major sports. SBC is arguably better than the AAC in the #1 sport football, after realignment.

Say the 500K per SBC school is true. If I'm an AAC official or AD, I'm asking myself exactly what are we doing wrong that schools making 500K were able to become our competitive rivals. Take away Cincy and UCF, based on the AAC's 7M per school to SBC's 500K per school, this still should have never been close. I'm also asking myself, what is the SBC doing right. Many of their institutions have become just as competitive, with a few out performing most AAC counterparts, while making 1/14th of what each AAC member makes.

It is believed that the current payout per SBC team is around 1.5M to 2M per school. These numbers have not been confirmed by the conference. If I'm Sunbelt leadership, I would let 500K per school continue to be the assumed payout and adopt the motto's "Doing more with less", "We do more with less", "Where less equals more". As long as each SBC institution is content with whatever the payout is, the rumored number doesn't matter.

You are correct about the AAC and SBC payout not being in the same universe. Considering the growing competitive strength of the SBC and the rapid pace of realignment. My question is how much longer will that be the case?

I am not discrediting the AAC's achievements. I am just acknowledging the fact that the SBC clawed their way into the competitive conversation. At some point the money may reflect that reality. Considering market sizes and viewership numbers, I assume AAC will continue to make more Media bucks than SBC. I do believe the AAC's 7M to SBC's 500K/2M will somewhat balance out in the next decade, if not sooner.

There are 2 major sports in college athletics.

People still watch basketball

(06-21-2023 06:53 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 09:00 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 07:40 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 06:04 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(06-20-2023 09:52 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Are you wanting to call them here? They can "smell" when someone's talking about them on other boards.

clt says they read every post on this chat page

So lets do a Wolf Call. The Sun Belt sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Living rent free in our heads and it’s still a nicer neighborhood than anywhere in Memphis.

It worked.

Not really. Just browsing. Checkout my Rooting For section. If AAC invites a GA sports team I'd visit this board more often as well. I'm not an SBC diehard. I do call it how I see it. My post was simply my view on the media money disparity between the two conferences in relation to athletic performance. The AAC earned every dollar with there markets play and athletic performance. No complaints here.

(06-20-2023 08:58 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Lol at Wichita making more than the Sunbelt average. But they're the superior conference.

Damn conference payout isn't even enough to pay for the coaches not coaching us anymore...

(06-20-2023 11:51 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  does Navy deal with CBS go thru conf office,
or it paid separately to Navy

The CBSSN money for four or five Navy football games in Annapolis goes to the AAC office.
The ABC/ESPN money for a game of their choice at NMCMS (ECU this year)(oh and AF at Navy is off limits for them) and Notre Dame at Navy in even-numbered years goes to the AAC office.

Army-Navy football, America's Game presented by USAA is separate.
CBSSN deal with Navy for non-football stuff (largely the other 22 Star matchups between Navy and Army) is with Navy.