(07-06-2023 11:22 AM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 09:29 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 08:42 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 07:50 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 07:00 PM)MeepMeep Wrote:  Wow you really aren’t trolling. You really believe that what you are doing isn’t malicious lmao

EDIT: Naw I’m coming back around, that UTSA MBB thread was clearly trolling because mods told you to deal with it.

For the record, I deleted the thread on my own accord. No mod contacted or pressured me. The thread served it purpose and continuing it gratuitously bashed the UTSA BB program and pained a UTSA poster I admire.

Besides, today we enter a new era. The challenges have been defined. Now we must all work to overcome the challenges and maximize potential.

Too bad... I thought that UTSA mbb thread spectacularly backfired on you and I enjoyed every bit of it.

I disagree. Every post reinforced the wretched condition of UTSA BB and I thought many of the posts were witty and clever.

Feel free to start it again. I have done my part to bury the hatchet in the spirit of camaraderie.

Yes UTSA has a middle school gymnasium along with FAU.
WKUYG posted a pic at FAU from 2022 and look like a scene from middle school basketball game. Probably 100 fans total (mostly WKU fans) with folding up bleachers


I get what Aresco was trying to accomplish by inviting the big metro commuter schools. Yes these schools have big student numbers to charge endless student athletic fees but if you dive into their alumni giving numbers you find they stack up horribly to other CUSA, Sunbelt and even a few MAC schools.

I don't know about other schools, but I challenge you to put up Jax State's alumni giving numbers against Boca money any time.

Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

These commuter schools can’t even get their thousands of students to give back with 3-4x the student enrollment of these non-commuter schools.

Do you really think the millions in their metro areas care when their alumni obviously don’t.

Their inflated budgets are built on the backs of student fees not from the alumni actually caring.

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

San Antonio is awesome and where I made my fortune, I have a place on the beach in Boca so hell yeah.

Isn’t Jacksonville State a community college?

(07-06-2023 09:27 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 07:27 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt thought buffalo was going to be a serious option for the aac in the last round of expansion

Me too. Excellent football. Great academics and appear to be serious about making themselves a player. Crazy they weren't one of the schools imo.

clt says wings and beef on weck as well!

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

clt says pal, you are out of your league here. compare endowments of the 7 schools listed above. then look at the years when the schools were founded.

go back to the lowly sunbelt page.

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

These schools raised more money than the entire value of your school. Come back when you have an endowment worth more than a Big Mac combo. Comical that your school’s endowment is what it is despite having an 86 year head start on us.

Any of you FAU guys willing to FedEX me Laspadas sandwiches? That is my one addiction.

(07-06-2023 09:27 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 07:27 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt thought buffalo was going to be a serious option for the aac in the last round of expansion

Me too. Excellent football. Great academics and appear to be serious about making themselves a player. Crazy they weren't one of the schools imo.

Aresco was a good little boy and took schools where ESPN told him to take schools.

Also should have stopped at 12 total. No need to be at 14.

(07-06-2023 11:10 AM)JackedUp Wrote:  Overwhelming No especially when you take out the FAU and other CUSA fans too dumb enough to realize the poll was for legacy members.


I think anyone that follows college athletics would rather play Cincinnati, UCF or Houston than the likes of Charlotte, North Texas, UTSA, FAU. Granted a couple of those schools have a flash in the pan seasons recently but they are nothing more than low level FBS commuter schools like Texas State, Georgia State, Buffalo. I think most would agree

Dude you're a Jacksonville State fan.

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(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

Our alumni do need to give more. What you're missing though is that our first football season was in 2011. And we had our first practice with a small group of freshmen in 2010. Prior to 2011, the highest amount we had in donor contributions was $0.61 million, and that was in 2010. Prior to 2010, I think the highest we ever had in donor contributions was $0.39 million.

My point is this. UTSA still has a long way to go because $3 million isn't something to be proud of, but football has been the spark for our alumni base to want to contribute more. Football has changed the whole culture of our campus because, as you hopefully know, Texas loves its football as much as anyone does, and UTSA had always been on an island, a D1 school in Texas without a football program. We didn't have much of an identity before football. Honestly, there weren't many students on campus when I was a student there in the mid-to-late 80's who even wore UTSA gear. You saw more wearing Texas or Texas A&M gear. Now, when you hit campus during the Fall or Spring, students are wearing our gear all over campus, and there's signage all over campus identifying us as UTSA, which also wasn't there before. Football has changed everything!

So in terms of donor contributions, we'll get there. It's not gonna happen overnight, but it's a very different campus with an entirely different feel to it now than it was when I was a student. That's only about a decade in the making though, so you can come back later in the year to gauge reactions all you want. But you can also come back in another decade to see our progress after some more of the graduates during this recent transformation have had a chance to get their footing and start donating more. Football has been the springboard to giving, the springboard to moving up in conferences (3 times now in 12 years), and the springboard toward national exposure. But we're only now really getting started.

(07-06-2023 11:36 PM)Meow Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

These schools raised more money than the entire value of your school. Come back when you have an endowment worth more than a Big Mac combo. Comical that your school’s endowment is what it is despite having an 86 year head start on us.

At $264 million, UTSA's is considerably less than UAB, yet still 19 times the size of Just Show Up. UTSA distributed $9 million in 2022. Soon UTSA's distributions will exceed JSU's total endowment value.

https://www.utsa.edu/giving/_pdf/endowme...723_v3.pdf

This is the difference between an urban research institute - even one just 54 years old - and a rural teacher training college.

Go back to the lowly Sun Belt. The adults are having a conversation.

(07-07-2023 10:15 AM)58-56 Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 11:36 PM)Meow Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

These schools raised more money than the entire value of your school. Come back when you have an endowment worth more than a Big Mac combo. Comical that your school’s endowment is what it is despite having an 86 year head start on us.

At $264 million, UTSA's is considerably less than UAB, yet still 19 times the size of Just Show Up. UTSA distributed $9 million in 2022. Soon UTSA's distributions will exceed JSU's total endowment value.

https://www.utsa.edu/giving/_pdf/endowme...723_v3.pdf

This is the difference between an urban research institute - even one just 54 years old - and a rural teacher training college.

Go back to the lowly Sun Belt. The adults are having a conversation.

I asked posters other than AAC legacy fans to respect the intent of the poll and refrain from voting or posting in the thread. Obviously, the request was unheeded and now it de facto open to all following the AUP. I welcome his comments until the poll times out.

(07-07-2023 10:14 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(07-06-2023 11:00 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  Donor Contributions:

Commuter Schools
North Texas State - 2.36 million - 42.3k students
UTSA - 3.21 million - 34.7k students
Charlotte - 4.69 million - 30.1k students
FAU - 4.27 million - 30.1k students


Non-commuter
Marshall - 5.95 million - -10.8k students
Southern Miss 5.8 million - 14.6k students
La Tech - 4.71 million - 11.0k students


I rest my case. I’ll come back later in the year for the reaction of Memphis fans when they go to San Antonio and Boca.

Our alumni do need to give more. What you're missing though is that our first football season was in 2011. And we had our first practice with a small group of freshmen in 2010. Prior to 2011, the highest amount we had in donor contributions was $0.61 million, and that was in 2010. Prior to 2010, I think the highest we ever had in donor contributions was $0.39 million.

My point is this. UTSA still has a long way to go because $3 million isn't something to be proud of, but football has been the spark for our alumni base to want to contribute more. Football has changed the whole culture of our campus because, as you hopefully know, Texas loves its football as much as anyone does, and UTSA had always been on an island, a D1 school in Texas without a football program. We didn't have much of an identity before football. Honestly, there weren't many students on campus when I was a student there in the mid-to-late 80's who even wore UTSA gear. You saw more wearing Texas or Texas A&M gear. Now, when you hit campus during the Fall or Spring, students are wearing our gear all over campus, and there's signage all over campus identifying us as UTSA, which also wasn't there before. Football has changed everything!

So in terms of donor contributions, we'll get there. It's not gonna happen overnight, but it's a very different campus with an entirely different feel to it now than it was when I was a student. That's only about a decade in the making though, so you can come back later in the year to gauge reactions all you want. But you can also come back in another decade to see our progress after some more of the graduates during this recent transformation have had a chance to get their footing and start donating more. Football has been the springboard to giving, the springboard to moving up in conferences (3 times now in 12 years), and the springboard toward national exposure. But we're only now really getting started.

Fair enough, yes UTSA has potential.

The tides are turning with respect to TV for the G5 conferences. ESPN is hemorrhaging money and just laid off several well known personalities to free up money.

The CUSA6 took 2 million a year to keep the AAC legacy members whole and I suspect if there are any more defections SMU, Memphis. ESPN will certainly lower the TV contract even further.

Updated tally for 6 yeas and 22 nays for votes cast by fans of AAC legacy schools including votes indicated in posts.