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Harvard Women’s Hockey Scandal
Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html
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How was this allowed to go on for so long
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Death penalty for Harvard athletics!!!

There was clearly a lack of institutional control.
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RE: Harvard Women’s Hockey Scandal
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

Bloody nipples and naked skating does not equal "the most evil female coach in collegiate history". I'm guessing that you didn't play sports in college, and you probably weren't in a fraternity, either.

Stone - who coached the silver medal-winning USA women's hockey team at the 2014 Sochi Olympics - was never directly implicated but former players said she was aware of what was going on and didn't stop it.

The article makes it look like the head coach arranged it all, then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing. Nobody died. Nobody was scarred (physically). However, there was clearly emotional damage, and we can't have that.
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RE: Harvard Women’s Hockey Scandal
(06-30-2023 02:14 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

Bloody nipples and naked skating does not equal "the most evil female coach in collegiate history". I'm guessing that you didn't play sports in college, and you probably weren't in a fraternity, either.

Stone - who coached the silver medal-winning USA women's hockey team at the 2014 Sochi Olympics - was never directly implicated but former players said she was aware of what was going on and didn't stop it.

The article makes it look like the head coach arranged it all, then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing. Nobody died. Nobody was scarred (physically). However, there was clearly emotional damage, and we can't have that.

If you started a new job and the veteran employees made you run around naked as part of orientation, would you have a problem with it?
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(06-30-2023 02:14 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  ... then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing.

That makes it acceptable because ...

The coach "owns" the ice during team activities. As "owner" they are also the "responsible party". It falls on the coach if the coach allowed it. The End.
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(06-30-2023 07:45 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:14 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  ... then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing.

That makes it acceptable because ...

The coach "owns" the ice during team activities. As "owner" they are also the "responsible party". It falls on the coach if the coach allowed it. The End.

The coach knew it was going on.

There was no benefit from that "workout."

Physical abuse of student-athletes. And 80% dropout rate of hockey players last year.
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(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

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(06-30-2023 03:36 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:14 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

Bloody nipples and naked skating does not equal "the most evil female coach in collegiate history". I'm guessing that you didn't play sports in college, and you probably weren't in a fraternity, either.

Stone - who coached the silver medal-winning USA women's hockey team at the 2014 Sochi Olympics - was never directly implicated but former players said she was aware of what was going on and didn't stop it.

The article makes it look like the head coach arranged it all, then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing. Nobody died. Nobody was scarred (physically). However, there was clearly emotional damage, and we can't have that.

If you started a new job and the veteran employees made you run around naked as part of orientation, would you have a problem with it?

Depends on the situation, where I’m at in life, and how much they pay me.
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Yet another situation where I ask how do so many people let one person get away with so much?

Was there not one girl on that team that would stand up and say they're not doing it and they will go to the administration about it if they try to make her... ???
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It's amazing how oblivious some people are to thinking something like that is ok.
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Harvard loves to point out splinters in others' eyes but ignored the wooden beam in their own.
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(06-30-2023 01:41 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

NJTerp

And they are at Harvard, so they aren't "stupid jocks."
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This is highly disturbing.
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(06-30-2023 02:37 PM)Alanda Wrote:  It's amazing how oblivious some people are to thinking something like that is ok.

(06-30-2023 02:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 01:41 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

NJTerp

And they are at Harvard, so they aren't "stupid jocks."

To be clear, I was referring to the “coach.”
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(06-30-2023 02:11 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  Yet another situation where I ask how do so many people let one person get away with so much?

Was there not one girl on that team that would stand up and say they're not doing it and they will go to the administration about it if they try to make her... ???

Well the article did say some players did complain. But the administration did nothing.
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(06-30-2023 03:00 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:37 PM)Alanda Wrote:  It's amazing how oblivious some people are to thinking something like that is ok.

(06-30-2023 02:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 01:41 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

NJTerp

And they are at Harvard, so they aren't "stupid jocks."

To be clear, I was referring to the “coach.”

I'm referring to the players being smart enough to know this was not something they had to do. You would have thought most would refuse.
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(06-30-2023 07:54 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 07:45 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:14 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  ... then that little blurb hidden in the middle shows that it was actually student-led hazing.

That makes it acceptable because ...

The coach "owns" the ice during team activities. As "owner" they are also the "responsible party". It falls on the coach if the coach allowed it. The End.

The coach knew it was going on.

There was no benefit from that "workout."

Physical abuse of student-athletes. And 80% dropout rate of hockey players last year.

25% dropout rate for all Harvard D1 athletes versus 80% for women’s hockey. Athletes were complaining about the hazing rituals. Someone in senior management will also have to answer for this. It is interesting that a school that doesn’t even provide athletic scholarships is facing this.
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(06-30-2023 03:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 03:00 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:37 PM)Alanda Wrote:  It's amazing how oblivious some people are to thinking something like that is ok.

(06-30-2023 02:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 01:41 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

NJTerp

And they are at Harvard, so they aren't "stupid jocks."

To be clear, I was referring to the “coach.”

I'm referring to the players being smart enough to know this was not something they had to do. You would have thought most would refuse.

My apologies. Missed your point. Yes, I would also think most, but the grooming or whatever still can fool many young adults. Even so, the fact that the coach was stupid enough to think no one would confide in someone to expose these degrading acts is unfathomable.
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(06-30-2023 03:00 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 02:37 PM)Alanda Wrote:  It's amazing how oblivious some people are to thinking something like that is ok.

(06-30-2023 02:58 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-30-2023 01:41 PM)Pat125 Wrote:  
(06-29-2023 11:24 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Perhaps the most evil female coach in collegiate history.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tions.html

If she isn’t the most evil female coach, I hate to see what the most evil coach did. She actually knew and did nothing?!?

Even if one is of the mind that - Oh, back in the good old non-PC days when barbaric hazing was acceptable and expected, people should get over it and allow degradation of humans to continue - how stupid could one be to let this happen today?

NJTerp

And they are at Harvard, so they aren't "stupid jocks."

To be clear, I was referring to the “coach.”

Wait. Why was I quoted? lol
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