(01-14-2024 08:25 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Wouldn’t have needed 49 if the clown hadn’t given them 14 with his 2 INT or cost Dallas 3 by taking a sack that took them out of FG range. Defense was trash and Quinn can’t get canned soon enough but that’s 17 points the “mvp candidate” cost them

He was a top MVP candidate. I'm sorry that fact pisses you off but the NFL is pretty much universal in that view. And he just made 2nd team All Pro, and incredibly high NFL honor. He led the NFL in TD passes and was top 3 in most passing categories and had one of the lowest INT rates in the league this year.

When you give up TD's on 5 consecutive possessions, the problem is not the QB. They could not stop the packers on ANY drive, no matter where and how it started.

Another team is going to hire Dan Quinn as HC in a week or so, so you will get that wish.

Dak is a stat padding choker. Maybe Quinn takes him wherever he goes. Both are overrated crap.

(01-14-2024 08:46 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dak is a stat padding choker. Maybe Quinn takes him wherever he goes. Both are overrated crap.

You really do need to find some joy and happiness in your life outside of men playing with balls.

You are one of the most perpetually angry and bitter people on this entire site.

Its no way to go through life.

I've wanted the Jones' to hire Bill Belichick since the moment Bill Parcells retired and every year since.

It may finally be about to happen, this is the last chance and the way things have fallen its the best chance yet since he is now a FA.

Its been known for years that Jerry and Belichick are pretty tight behind the scenes.

Its now or never.

(01-15-2024 06:58 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I've wanted the Jones' to hire Bill Belichick since the moment Bill Parcells retired and every year since.

It may finally be about to happen, this is the last chance and the way things have fallen its the best chance yet since he is now a FA.

Its been known for years that Jerry and Belichick are pretty tight behind the scenes.

Its now or never.

It won’t matter. Jerry’s meddling will screw it up.

His ego won’t let him just let a coach be a coach. He was tight with Jimmy Johnson too and ran him off because Jerry thinks of himself as a coach.

Jerry wants all the credit for winning and none of the blame for losing but wants to hold the puppet stings.

Cowboys will not play in a Super Bowl as long as he’s around

(01-15-2024 10:44 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 06:58 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I've wanted the Jones' to hire Bill Belichick since the moment Bill Parcells retired and every year since.

It may finally be about to happen, this is the last chance and the way things have fallen its the best chance yet since he is now a FA.

Its been known for years that Jerry and Belichick are pretty tight behind the scenes.

Its now or never.

It won’t matter. Jerry’s meddling will screw it up.

His ego won’t let him just let a coach be a coach. He was tight with Jimmy Johnson too and ran him off because Jerry thinks of himself as a coach.

Jerry wants all the credit for winning and none of the blame for losing but wants to hold the puppet stings.

Cowboys will not play in a Super Bowl as long as he’s around

They have already won 3 SBs with Jerry doing his thing. Who was it that hired Jimmie Johnson in the first place? Jerry Jones.

Jimmie himself has admitted for years that his own ego played a large role in their issues as well, and that he never stayed anywhere his whole career more then 4-5 years.

It was Jimmie and Jerry together that won, Jimmie failed to ever make a deep playoff run without Jerry even with Dan Marion as his QB.

Bellicheck just went thru a season of Mac Jones and Zappe. Do you really think he could stomach Prescott for 17 games??? It’s hard to do for the average Dallas fan, can’t imagine being the coach and having your job riding on that guy

(01-15-2024 12:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Bellicheck just went thru a season of Mac Jones and Zappe. Do you really think he could stomach Prescott for 17 games??? It’s hard to do for the average Dallas fan, can’t imagine being the coach and having your job riding on that guy

Zappee and Jones = 16 TD, 21 INTs 73 QB rating

Dak Prescott - 36 TD, 9 INTS 106 QB rating (2nd team All Pro)


Patriots : 31st in points 30th in total yards
4-13 record

Cowboys : 1st in points 5th in total yards
12-5 record



Your an idiot when it comes to this topic.

(01-15-2024 11:11 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 10:44 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 06:58 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I've wanted the Jones' to hire Bill Belichick since the moment Bill Parcells retired and every year since.

It may finally be about to happen, this is the last chance and the way things have fallen its the best chance yet since he is now a FA.

Its been known for years that Jerry and Belichick are pretty tight behind the scenes.

Its now or never.

It won’t matter. Jerry’s meddling will screw it up.

His ego won’t let him just let a coach be a coach. He was tight with Jimmy Johnson too and ran him off because Jerry thinks of himself as a coach.

Jerry wants all the credit for winning and none of the blame for losing but wants to hold the puppet stings.

Cowboys will not play in a Super Bowl as long as he’s around

They have already won 3 SBs with Jerry doing his thing. Who was it that hired Jimmie Johnson in the first place? Jerry Jones.

Jimmie himself has admitted for years that his own ego played a large role in their issues as well, and that he never stayed anywhere his whole career more then 4-5 years.

It was Jimmie and Jerry together that won, Jimmie failed to ever make a deep playoff run without Jerry even with Dan Marion as his QB.

My friend I grew up in Dallas and my family worked for Jerry in the cowboys organization for years. My uncle was over all suites in the old stadium.

You have no idea what Jerry is like, the cowboys will not win with him at the helm. He constantly meddles and cuts players and more. He is far too involved for a GM/owner.

He wants the glory not the blame.

He can’t help himself, he’s an egotistical micromanager

(01-15-2024 07:26 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 11:11 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 10:44 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 06:58 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I've wanted the Jones' to hire Bill Belichick since the moment Bill Parcells retired and every year since.

It may finally be about to happen, this is the last chance and the way things have fallen its the best chance yet since he is now a FA.

Its been known for years that Jerry and Belichick are pretty tight behind the scenes.

Its now or never.

It won’t matter. Jerry’s meddling will screw it up.

His ego won’t let him just let a coach be a coach. He was tight with Jimmy Johnson too and ran him off because Jerry thinks of himself as a coach.

Jerry wants all the credit for winning and none of the blame for losing but wants to hold the puppet stings.

Cowboys will not play in a Super Bowl as long as he’s around

They have already won 3 SBs with Jerry doing his thing. Who was it that hired Jimmie Johnson in the first place? Jerry Jones.

Jimmie himself has admitted for years that his own ego played a large role in their issues as well, and that he never stayed anywhere his whole career more then 4-5 years.

It was Jimmie and Jerry together that won, Jimmie failed to ever make a deep playoff run without Jerry even with Dan Marion as his QB.

My friend I grew up in Dallas and my family worked for Jerry in the cowboys organization for years. My uncle was over all suites in the old stadium.

You have no idea what Jerry is like, the cowboys will not win with him at the helm. He constantly meddles and cuts players and more. He is far too involved for a GM/owner.

He wants the glory not the blame.

He can’t help himself, he’s an egotistical micromanager

I didn't deny or argue any of that, I just pointed out that he also hired Jimmie Johnson and has 3 SB wins. That's more than 99% of current NFL owners. So you can't say they can't win with him as owner, he has already won it 3 times.

And because of him his franchise is worth more than any other franchise in professional sports.

The issue is not that they don't win, the issue is they don't win in the playoffs.

(01-15-2024 07:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 12:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Bellicheck just went thru a season of Mac Jones and Zappe. Do you really think he could stomach Prescott for 17 games??? It’s hard to do for the average Dallas fan, can’t imagine being the coach and having your job riding on that guy

Zappee and Jones = 16 TD, 21 INTs 73 QB rating

Dak Prescott - 36 TD, 9 INTS 106 QB rating (2nd team All Pro)


Patriots : 31st in points 30th in total yards
4-13 record

Cowboys : 1st in points scored 5th in yards
12-5 record



Your an idiot when it comes to this topic.

Playoff wins this year

Zappe/ Jones 0
Dak 0

(01-15-2024 08:02 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 07:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 12:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Bellicheck just went thru a season of Mac Jones and Zappe. Do you really think he could stomach Prescott for 17 games??? It’s hard to do for the average Dallas fan, can’t imagine being the coach and having your job riding on that guy

Zappee and Jones = 16 TD, 21 INTs 73 QB rating

Dak Prescott - 36 TD, 9 INTS 106 QB rating (2nd team All Pro)


Patriots : 31st in points 30th in total yards
4-13 record

Cowboys : 1st in points scored 5th in yards
12-5 record



Your an idiot when it comes to this topic.

Playoff wins this year

Zappe/ Jones 0
Dak 0

You just moved the goalposts from your own post. You made a point about going through 17 games, not playoff wins. I don't blame you for moving them though, your point was clearly stupid.

Belichick was stuck with the lowest rated offense and QB production in the NFL. If he goes to Dallas he takes over the #1 offense with an All Pro QB who led the leauge in scoring.

Put the shovel down and step away from the hole.

It is hard to deny that Dak is a choke artist in the playoffs. More proof for that opinion than against it.

(01-15-2024 08:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is hard to deny that Dak is a choke artist in the playoffs. More proof for that opinion than against it.

He’ll go find a bunch of stats to argue otherwise because he takes every comment so seriously. He may be one of the last 5 or 6 Dak fanboys left in the Cowboys fan base.

(01-15-2024 08:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is hard to deny that Dak is a choke artist in the playoffs. More proof for that opinion than against it.

Dak has had playoff games where he played incredibly well and games were he was really bad. As has been said here a gazillion times, he's a good QB, he is not an elite QB. There are only about 5-6 of those in the NFL.

The entire team plays like total garbage in the playoffs. Its one thing to say Dak did not play well (he did not), its another to say it was him who blew the game.

Their defense gave up TD's on 5 consecutive possessions. FIVE CONSECUTIVE POSSESSIONS. That is totally absurd and embarrassing. They could not stop the packers offense and got blasted in all 3 phases of the game.

(01-15-2024 08:59 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-15-2024 08:50 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  It is hard to deny that Dak is a choke artist in the playoffs. More proof for that opinion than against it.

He’ll go find a bunch of stats to argue otherwise because he takes every comment so seriously. He may be one of the last 5 or 6 Dak fanboys left in the Cowboys fan base.

Not even close. I'd trade Dak in a heart beat for Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, Josh Allen, CJ Stroud and a few others. But teams who have those uber elite QBs aren't interested in trading them because there are so few of them.

I'm no particular fan of Dak at all, he is good but not great. I'm just not stupid enough to think the cowboys issues are just because of the QB. They are much bigger than that and just plugging in one of those QB's is not fixing those bigger issues.

It would be one thing if the team had played really well in all phases but the QB choked it away. I would totally agree with you then. But that is CLEALRY not what happened, they got blasted in all phases and the whole team played like hot garbage. That was the epitome of a TEAM loss.

cowboys lose! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa

One of the cowboys biggest issues all year is they basically have 1 true NFL linebacker (Micah Parsons) and they play him more than half the game at DE because he is such a prolific pass rusher. The rest of their LB core is all hybrid safeties who can play linebacker in passing situations. They drafted a LB in 2023 (Overshown) who was impressive in camp but got injured and missed the whole year. And at DE they also have only one true strong NFL DE (DeMarcus Lawrence) and the rest are really specialist who can rush the passer but not play the run well. So they are undersized across the board in the front 7.

We saw all season when they played a physical team that could run the ball their highly ranked defense got totally exposed and ran off the field. It happened with SF, its happened with Buffalo and it happened with GB. It even happened with AZ, as bad as the cardinals are the one thing they do well is run the ball (top 5 in the NFL in rushing) and they ran for 222 yards on the cowboys defense.

When the cowboys take an early lead and can just rush the passer that defense looks elite. When they fall behind early against a physical team the defense gets totally exposed and embarrassed. That was the trend all year and it continued into that playoff game. When you combine that with how they tend to play nervous and not to lose in the playoffs and you get that historic disaster.

If they hire Belichick, he will likely switch them to a 3-4 defense (Micah Parsons is a better suited for an outside 3-4 linebacker) and bring in much more physical and larger players in the front 7. Particularity at LB and DE. And Belichick will not tolerate sloppy play, stupid penalties and lack of consistent effort.

Belichick is not going to get out schemed by other coaches and is not going to fall prey or stand for premadonnaism as the cowboys always do. Those 8 SB rings he has brings a gravitas and respect that no one else can bring.

He's avaible, he's not getting any younger so its now or never.

I’d be all for hiring BB but seriously doubt it happens. Off-season will go like this -

Jerry waits a few days for the fans to calm down and comes out with a statement saying “we had a great season, we have the talent to win and we believe in the coaching staff” or something like that. They’ll announce MM is returning, sign Dak as the highest paid QB in the NFL (just think of what a complete joke that sounds like) and if some other team is stupid enough to take Quinn, they’ll have to get a new DC. Jerry will run it back with mostly the same cast of goons next year. They’ll be guaranteed 5 wins because the redskins and giants suck and Philly can’t win in Dallas. Win 4 or 5 more and they’re back in the playoffs where Dak has his usual meltdown and after the game says “it’s on me. I have to be better”

What I wish they would do-
Fire McCarthy
Trade Dak (if anyone would take him) or cut him post June 1
I can’t stand Jim H but he would win

I wouldn’t even be mad if they traded Parsons and Lamb for a boatload of picks in a complete blow it up and start over. Only problem is Jerry would still be there overseeing it so it wouldn’t be done right.

the problem with the Cowboys is nothing other than Jerry Jones. he won't win jack the rest of his years on this earth.