Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

(11-24-2023 08:54 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

They will have Memphis and Tulane. Two more than Liberty and Toledo, as an occasional NMST fan I like them a lot but they aren't getting counted as a quality win and certainly not compared to Memphis and Tulane. Toledo is way outside looking in and Liberty is just mentioned because they are undefeated. SMU loss a decent game to OU and a crosstown historical rival, they will also be part of the club however they bribed their way in next year.

If its going to be a NOT AAC team you will need Memphis to win out to open the discussion up, otherwise its ours.

(11-24-2023 09:01 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:54 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

They will have Memphis and Tulane. Two more than Liberty and Toledo, as an occasional NMST fan I like them a lot but they aren't getting counted as a quality win and certainly not compared to Memphis and Tulane. Toledo is way outside looking in and Liberty is just mentioned because they are undefeated. SMU loss a decent game to OU and a crosstown historical rival, they will also be part of the club however they bribed their way in next year.

If its going to be a NOT AAC team you will need Memphis to win out to open the discussion up, otherwise its ours.

So first of all, you’re right.

Any of UTSA, SMU, and Tulane winning out would likely earn the NYD6 bid (UTSA likely, SMU and Tulane basically locks).

Second of all, Memphis has been eliminated from AAC title contention. They are 5-2 and two games behind three 7-0 teams with one game to go.

But I agree that the only way a non-AAC team gets the NYD6 is for Memphis (or Tulsa, or ECU) to win the AAC.

(11-24-2023 09:08 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 09:01 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:54 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

They will have Memphis and Tulane. Two more than Liberty and Toledo, as an occasional NMST fan I like them a lot but they aren't getting counted as a quality win and certainly not compared to Memphis and Tulane. Toledo is way outside looking in and Liberty is just mentioned because they are undefeated. SMU loss a decent game to OU and a crosstown historical rival, they will also be part of the club however they bribed their way in next year.

If its going to be a NOT AAC team you will need Memphis to win out to open the discussion up, otherwise its ours.

So first of all, you’re right.

Any of UTSA, SMU, and Tulane winning out would likely earn the NYD6 bid (UTSA likely, SMU and Tulane basically locks).

Second of all, Memphis has been eliminated from AAC title contention. They are 5-2 and two games behind three 7-0 teams with one game to go.

But I agree that the only way a non-AAC team gets the NYD6 is for Memphis (or Tulsa, or ECU) to win the AAC.

Only way to ensure it's an AAC team is for Tulane to win out. SMU has a shot if they win out and beat Tulane in the CCG. If UTSA wins the league they won't ve getting in over an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

(11-24-2023 09:13 AM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 09:08 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 09:01 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:54 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

They will have Memphis and Tulane. Two more than Liberty and Toledo, as an occasional NMST fan I like them a lot but they aren't getting counted as a quality win and certainly not compared to Memphis and Tulane. Toledo is way outside looking in and Liberty is just mentioned because they are undefeated. SMU loss a decent game to OU and a crosstown historical rival, they will also be part of the club however they bribed their way in next year.

If its going to be a NOT AAC team you will need Memphis to win out to open the discussion up, otherwise its ours.

So first of all, you’re right.

Any of UTSA, SMU, and Tulane winning out would likely earn the NYD6 bid (UTSA likely, SMU and Tulane basically locks).

Second of all, Memphis has been eliminated from AAC title contention. They are 5-2 and two games behind three 7-0 teams with one game to go.

But I agree that the only way a non-AAC team gets the NYD6 is for Memphis (or Tulsa, or ECU) to win the AAC.

Only way to ensure it's an AAC team is for Tulane to win out. SMU has a shot if they win out and beat Tulane in the CCG. If UTSA wins the league they won't ve getting in over an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Unbeaten and current #25 Liberty likely gets the nod over a 10-3 and unranked UTSA.

But if UTSA wins their next two “with flair” aka style points, aka double digits or better… then they will be in the conversation with a CFP ranking. Whether Toledo or an MWC champ would also join the rankings remains to be seen.

(11-24-2023 09:08 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 09:01 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:54 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:50 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 08:42 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Tulane- Beat UTSA and SMU and you're in.
Liberty- Tulane doesn't win AAC and Liberty defeats UTep and NMSU.
Toledo- Neither Tulane, nor Liberty are conf champs and Toledo beats CMU and Miami.

SMU- Beats Navy and Tulane, and none of the three above win their conf... could jump Toledo if Tulane is conf championship opponent. UTSA wouldn't be a good enough win.
Troy- UTSA, NMSU, Miami win those three leagues.
UNLV- Troy loses one more and same as above.

UTSA- Troy loses 1 more game, Liberty and Toledo lose.
NMSU- SJSU or Boise wins MWC, SMU loses to Navy and UTSA wins AAC, Miami loses to Ball State then beats Toledo in MACC.
Miami- Basically every favorite loses, Cincy and Toledo crush their opponents this week, Ohio beats Akron, NMSU and UTSA win their leagues while SMU loses to Navy, and UNLV doesn't win MWC.

Coastal, SJSU, Boise, AFA, other SBC East teams are all cooked.

If SMU beats Navy, it will be SMU or Tulane.

If SMU loses to Navy and Memphis wins out, beating Tulane, it will be between Memphis and an undefeated Liberty or a one loss Toledo.

Why? SMU will have 2 losses and won't jump 0 loss Liberty. Especially because NMSU is viewed as quality with their drubbing of Auburn. Their resume is better than UTSAs.

SMU also has less quality wins to hang their hat on.

They will have Memphis and Tulane. Two more than Liberty and Toledo, as an occasional NMST fan I like them a lot but they aren't getting counted as a quality win and certainly not compared to Memphis and Tulane. Toledo is way outside looking in and Liberty is just mentioned because they are undefeated. SMU loss a decent game to OU and a crosstown historical rival, they will also be part of the club however they bribed their way in next year.

If its going to be a NOT AAC team you will need Memphis to win out to open the discussion up, otherwise its ours.

So first of all, you’re right.

Any of UTSA, SMU, and Tulane winning out would likely earn the NYD6 bid (UTSA likely, SMU and Tulane basically locks).

Second of all, Memphis has been eliminated from AAC title contention. They are 5-2 and two games behind three 7-0 teams with one game to go.

But I agree that the only way a non-AAC team gets the NYD6 is for Memphis (or Tulsa, or ECU) to win the AAC.

Oops, I thought it was them not UTSA who could get in. UTSA winning puts it down to either Toledo or Liberty if those two win out. Memphis would have had a chance at NY6, but UTSA early losses push them out. So there you go OP, you need an SMU loss to Navy, then UTSA winning out.

Toledo could have wins over 8-5 MWC Champ SJSU, 10-2 Miami twice, 7-5 BG with P5 win, 6-6 NIU with p5 win, and 6-6 EMU. Toledo also didn't play Akron or Kent the two worst teams in the conf, and it's loss could be to a 6-6 Illinois who played no FCS games. Toledo would have more quality wins than SMU, and one less loss regardless of quality. A 17 pt loss to TCU is worse than one on a last second fg to 6-6 Illinois.

(11-24-2023 04:16 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Toledo could have wins over 8-5 MWC Champ SJSU, 10-2 Miami twice, 7-5 BG with P5 win, 6-6 NIU with p5 win, and 6-6 EMU. Toledo also didn't play Akron or Kent the two worst teams in the conf, and it's loss could be to a 6-6 Illinois who played no FCS games. Toledo would have more quality wins than SMU, and one less loss regardless of quality. A 17 pt loss to TCU is worse than one on a last second fg to 6-6 Illinois.

If SJSU wins the MWC then yes that would be a major boost to Toledo hopes.

I think Miami wins the rematch at Ford Field against Toledo.

(11-24-2023 04:16 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Toledo could have wins over 8-5 MWC Champ SJSU, 10-2 Miami twice, 7-5 BG with P5 win, 6-6 NIU with p5 win, and 6-6 EMU. Toledo also didn't play Akron or Kent the two worst teams in the conf, and it's loss could be to a 6-6 Illinois who played no FCS games. Toledo would have more quality wins than SMU, and one less loss regardless of quality. A 17 pt loss to TCU is worse than one on a last second fg to 6-6 Illinois.

SMU would have Memphis and a ranked Tulane.

SJSU is out, they needed to win and have Air Force beat Boise, but they went down and UNLV is favored anyway. If you beat Miami they wil have 3 losses, not sure that they would be considered that good a win. You can hope they see those two losses (TCU/ILL) different but I don't thjnk they do and their second loss is to a top 15 and possible Big Xii champ. Don't think it will be that close in the end if SMU wins out they are in before both Toledo and Liberty.

Tulane’s win against UTSA greatly simplified the situation. If SMU beats Navy, then the winner of Tulane/SMU gets the NY6, period, full stop, end of story. Everything else is just hot air.

If SMU loses to Navy but then beats Tulane next Saturday, okay. Then we have a very different conversation. Until then…

(11-25-2023 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Tulane’s win against UTSA greatly simplified the situation. If SMU beats Navy, then the winner of Tulane/SMU gets the NY6, period, full stop, end of story. Everything else is just hot air.

If SMU loses to Navy but then beats Tulane next Saturday, okay. Then we have a very different conversation. Until then…

I dont think this holds true at all. If the committee wanted a two-loss SMU to go over an undefeated Liberty, *they would have put them in the rankings right behind Tulane last week* instead of Liberty. Putting Liberty there was a very clear indication of their intention should Tulane lose.

(11-25-2023 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Tulane’s win against UTSA greatly simplified the situation. If SMU beats Navy, then the winner of Tulane/SMU gets the NY6, period, full stop, end of story. Everything else is just hot air.

If SMU loses to Navy but then beats Tulane next Saturday, okay. Then we have a very different conversation. Until then…

Why? SMUs resume is simply worse than 0 loss Liberty and 1 loss Toledo. They did one thing and whooped poor competition... but didn't show up in its biggest games and Liberty and Toledo have better wins than 5 win TCU in general. Check the Massey Composite. SMU has proved to be better than 40 or 50 something Memphis... with a dang near blowout loss to 60/70 something TCU. I'd take the team with more decent wins and less losses like Liberty and Toledo.

But Tulane is in the drivers seat for now.

I have a real problem with SJSUs situation because the Massey rating which breaks ties takes into consideration OOC games. And that's not the point of a conference title. Playing Oregon State, USC and Toledo is admirable, not a knock to keep you out of a conf title game if a 1 v 1 v 1 tie happens.

(11-25-2023 01:18 AM)OUGwave Wrote:  

(11-25-2023 12:52 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Tulane’s win against UTSA greatly simplified the situation. If SMU beats Navy, then the winner of Tulane/SMU gets the NY6, period, full stop, end of story. Everything else is just hot air.

If SMU loses to Navy but then beats Tulane next Saturday, okay. Then we have a very different conversation. Until then…

I dont think this holds true at all. If the committee wanted a two-loss SMU to go over an undefeated Liberty, *they would have put them in the rankings right behind Tulane last week* instead of Liberty. Putting Liberty there was a very clear indication of their intention should Tulane lose.

IMO that’s not why they put Liberty #25

IMO it was in many ways tossing a bone and acknowledging that an unbeaten record is work *something* and also a nod to the newfound value in the NMSU win.

Look at last year’s rankings though, teams like Tulane and UCF passed teams from other conferences as they advanced through the AAC to the title game.

If SMU and Liberty both win today, I believe we’ll find them both ranked. Liberty might be one or two spots ahead of SMU but the implication will be that an SMU win over Tulane could (will*) be worth more than a (2nd) Liberty win over NMSU

(11-25-2023 03:00 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I have a real problem with SJSUs situation because the Massey rating which breaks ties takes into consideration OOC games. And that's not the point of a conference title. Playing Oregon State, USC and Toledo is admirable, not a knock to keep you out of a conf title game if a 1 v 1 v 1 tie happens.

Air Forces loss to Boise eliminated this scenario. That scenario also required SJSU to beat UNLV in UNLV, and that is just not likely with this UNLV and there was little to indicate SJSU is a road warrior so it was a long shot outcome even with a AFA win. Right now its looking like Boise vs UNLV.

A big win vs Navy should give us a ranked match up for the AAC championship, Liberty has two games left vs Jackson St and NMST even winning those a AAC champ SMU with a win over Tulane will pass them and they are already ranked in front of Toledo. An SMU win today will close the cracked door for anyone else again. Just like the last what 4/5 years. We also should end up the second place overall conference heading in to bowls, meaning we are just as likely to take the #1 overall conference as long as we don't crap out in bowl seasons. Made easier since we will be watching the g4 play and beat each other up while half of our bowls will be competing against A5 teams.

Same As It Ever Was regardless of what these Psycho Killers say we're Burning Down the House again, time to Take Me To The River, Love -> Building On Fire

(11-25-2023 10:49 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-25-2023 03:00 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I have a real problem with SJSUs situation because the Massey rating which breaks ties takes into consideration OOC games. And that's not the point of a conference title. Playing Oregon State, USC and Toledo is admirable, not a knock to keep you out of a conf title game if a 1 v 1 v 1 tie happens.

Air Forces loss to Boise eliminated this scenario. That scenario also required SJSU to beat UNLV in UNLV, and that is just not likely with this UNLV and there was little to indicate SJSU is a road warrior so it was a long shot outcome even with a AFA win. Right now its looking like Boise vs UNLV.

A big win vs Navy should give us a ranked match up for the AAC championship, Liberty has two games left vs Jackson St and NMST even winning those a AAC champ SMU with a win over Tulane will pass them and they are already ranked in front of Toledo. An SMU win today will close the cracked door for anyone else again. Just like the last what 4/5 years. We also should end up the second place overall conference heading in to bowls, meaning we are just as likely to take the #1 overall conference as long as we don't crap out in bowl seasons. Made easier since we will be watching the g4 play and beat each other up while half of our bowls will be competing against A5 teams.

Same As It Ever Was regardless of what these Psycho Killers say we're Burning Down the House again, time to Take Me To The River, Love -> Building On Fire

UNLV is favored by 1... I'm not sure it's a walk thru for the Rebs. SJSU has been hot.

(11-25-2023 10:49 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(11-25-2023 03:00 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I have a real problem with SJSUs situation because the Massey rating which breaks ties takes into consideration OOC games. And that's not the point of a conference title. Playing Oregon State, USC and Toledo is admirable, not a knock to keep you out of a conf title game if a 1 v 1 v 1 tie happens.

Air Forces loss to Boise eliminated this scenario. That scenario also required SJSU to beat UNLV in UNLV, and that is just not likely with this UNLV and there was little to indicate SJSU is a road warrior so it was a long shot outcome even with a AFA win. Right now its looking like Boise vs UNLV.

A big win vs Navy should give us a ranked match up for the AAC championship, Liberty has two games left vs Jackson St and NMST even winning those a AAC champ SMU with a win over Tulane will pass them and they are already ranked in front of Toledo. An SMU win today will close the cracked door for anyone else again. Just like the last what 4/5 years. We also should end up the second place overall conference heading in to bowls, meaning we are just as likely to take the #1 overall conference as long as we don't crap out in bowl seasons. Made easier since we will be watching the g4 play and beat each other up while half of our bowls will be competing against A5 teams.

Same As It Ever Was regardless of what these Psycho Killers say we're Burning Down the House again, time to Take Me To The River, Love -> Building On Fire

TLDR.
Summary: If you’re in the AAC and looking for the NYD6 berth, then This Must Be The Place