(11-29-2023 05:32 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  The American probably wants a team in the Metroplex. I think it is leaning toward trying to have Rice there.

At least that is what I've heard...

Which bowl game, Armed Forces? Isn't First Responders in a local metroplex?

(11-29-2023 10:26 PM)grOWLer Wrote:  Just as long as we are not in the Toilet Bowl.

Give it time. There will be one.

(11-30-2023 10:02 AM)wrysal Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 11:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  We should be able to beat anyone from the Sunbelt or MAC. San Jose State should also be a win.

I hope JT doesn't play. It's time for him to move on. I want Padgett at the reigns. He's our future.

I 100% disagree with every word you've written. We could lose to anybody, but with JT our odds of success increase dramatically.

I don't care. Daniels is on his way out. Give the start to Padgett. He delivered in the last two games. He's the future of the program. He deserves it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Daniels sit this one out anyway, to protect himself for the draft.

It's a question of what's more important--winning a basically meaningless bowl game or being slightly better prepared for 2024. I'd opt on the side of preparation for next year, but arguments can be made both ways.

(11-30-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 10:26 PM)grOWLer Wrote:  Just as long as we are not in the Toilet Bowl.

Give it time. There will be one.

ESPN is missing out on this.
People would watch - they watch car and train wrecks.
Ignore the usual 6-win requirement.
A place in the American Standard Toilet Bowl would be offered to the two teams with the worst records (0-11 or 12) and worst rankings.
It might even be competitive.

Would a team accept a place?
Who knows?
It would offer them the chance to continue practicing, outside of the regular season.

(11-30-2023 01:11 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 10:26 PM)grOWLer Wrote:  Just as long as we are not in the Toilet Bowl.

Give it time. There will be one.

ESPN is missing out on this.
People would watch - they watch car and train wrecks.
Ignore the usual 6-win requirement.
A place in the American Standard Toilet Bowl would be offered to the two teams with the worst records (0-11 or 12) and worst rankings.
It might even be competitive.

Would a team accept a place?
Who knows?
It would offer them the chance to continue practicing, outside of the regular season.

The 'Mr Irrelevant' of bowls

(11-30-2023 01:05 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 10:02 AM)wrysal Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 11:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  We should be able to beat anyone from the Sunbelt or MAC. San Jose State should also be a win.

I hope JT doesn't play. It's time for him to move on. I want Padgett at the reigns. He's our future.

I 100% disagree with every word you've written. We could lose to anybody, but with JT our odds of success increase dramatically.

I don't care. Daniels is on his way out. Give the start to Padgett. He delivered in the last two games. He's the future of the program. He deserves it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Daniels sit this one out anyway, to protect himself for the draft.

Unfortunately I agree with the bolded part. However, I don't see JT getting drafted due to the wear and tear his prior injuries have done to his mobility. Mobility has become maybe the most important asset for a quarterback in an NFL player development person's mind.

(11-26-2023 07:31 PM)owl40 Wrote:  This has Rice playing SJ St in Hawaii Bowl.

SJ State got hosed on playing for MW Championship game losing an esoteric tie breaker to Boise and UNLV.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/co...221247616/

Coastal Carolina got that slot against SJSU.
https://goccusports.com/news/2023/11/30/...-bowl.aspx

(11-30-2023 01:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It's a question of what's more important--winning a basically meaningless bowl game or being slightly better prepared for 2024. I'd opt on the side of preparation for next year, but arguments can be made both ways.

It may be meaningless to you, but I doubt it is to the players. If you carry that logic thru, why limit it to JT. Sit all of the seniors.

Why stop there. Do the games become meaningless during the season when you can no longer win the conference? If so, with this logic, I guess you should sit seniors then to develop future talent.

(11-30-2023 01:11 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 10:26 PM)grOWLer Wrote:  Just as long as we are not in the Toilet Bowl.

Give it time. There will be one.

ESPN is missing out on this.
People would watch - they watch car and train wrecks.
Ignore the usual 6-win requirement.
A place in the American Standard Toilet Bowl would be offered to the two teams with the worst records (0-11 or 12) and worst rankings.
It might even be competitive.

Would a team accept a place?
Who knows?
It would offer them the chance to continue practicing, outside of the regular season.

There are no "0-fer" teams this year - which I find fascinating by itself.

Since ESPN wouldn't have to wait for the conference championship games this weekend to offer invitations to the Toilet Bowl, the current candidates would be...
Kent State, who won only one game this year (vs Duke, and Duke is 7-5).
Vanderbilt, who won two games (Hawaii (who beat NMSU), Alabama A&M)
Louisiana Monroe, who won two games (Army, Lamar)
Akron, who won two games (Morgan State, Kent State)
East Carolina, who won two games (Gardner-Webb, FAU)

Should they offer to both Kent State and Akron, since they already played each other?

All of the teams in the Sun Belt Conference are bowl-qualified.

How does Southern Miss qualify at 3-9 or UL-Monroe qualify at 2-10?

(11-30-2023 03:01 PM)Grungy Wrote:  All of the teams in the Sun Belt Conference are bowl-qualified.

I believe they had the most teams qualified but not all. Southern Miss and ULM are the only ones who didn't reach 6

(11-30-2023 01:00 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 10:26 PM)grOWLer Wrote:  Just as long as we are not in the Toilet Bowl.

Give it time. There will be one.

If I win the lottery, there WILL be one.

(11-30-2023 03:05 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  How does Southern Miss qualify at 3-9 or UL-Monroe qualify at 2-10?

D'oh!
I failed to scroll down and see the West half of the conference.
I thought that looked like a small conference...
My bad...

BTW, I was looking at Sports Illustrated's college football standings.

(11-30-2023 03:05 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  How does Southern Miss qualify at 3-9 or UL-Monroe qualify at 2-10?

Ask Julie Griswold

(11-30-2023 04:47 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 03:05 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  How does Southern Miss qualify at 3-9 or UL-Monroe qualify at 2-10?

Ask Julie Griswold

They don't, and not even Julie could get them there.
I missed the West half of the Sunbelt when I failed to scroll all the way down on SI's standings page.
You are correct that neither team is remotely qualified.

The MOB has heard from someone somehow that the Hawaii Bowl has already selected two teams that are not Rice.

That means that we'll likely get to go (Yay!)
Hawaii was the one place out of the 40-something that we knew we wouldn't be able to go.

(11-30-2023 06:45 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 04:47 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 03:05 PM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote:  How does Southern Miss qualify at 3-9 or UL-Monroe qualify at 2-10?

Ask Julie Griswold

They don't, and not even Julie could get them there.

Of course,... I was just making a joke and vicariously throwing Julie some props.

(11-30-2023 01:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It's a question of what's more important--winning a basically meaningless bowl game or being slightly better prepared for 2024. I'd opt on the side of preparation for next year, but arguments can be made both ways.

Agree. It's not like we'd be conceding defeat by starting Padgett. He's a capable quarterback that needs experience. Start him. Daniels is yesterday's news.