Man I hope Worthy didn't break a bone. Didn't look that bad, but where he was holding his lower leg was not good.

(12-02-2023 01:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  College football needs to fix that ******* defensive sub rule. Make a guy get in the play quicker. Should be a delay of game on the ******* defense.

I think that there is a rule that the defensive subbing has only so many seconds, and obviously the D will take as long as the refs will give them; I don't think that the offense gets a clear idea of how quickly they have to get their changes made. I'd think there could be a gray area where the refs could call the delay on the D for dogging it, but what that is is not obvious, either to the fans/viewers or to the Off or Def.

(12-02-2023 02:17 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's very sad that BYU couldn't hold on to their lead last week. We should be watching TX vs OU right now instead of this garbage OK State team.

This situation IMO shows a big flaw in giving bids to conference champs. Since conferences ignore OOC games, you can get a bad 3-loss OK State team that got routed by South Alabama in a CCG.

If Oklahoma hadn’t lost to this garbage team they would be playing today.

Have you watched games played in Stillwater? The calls and non-calls are, in a word, "baffling."

(12-02-2023 02:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:17 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's very sad that BYU couldn't hold on to their lead last week. We should be watching TX vs OU right now instead of this garbage OK State team.

This situation IMO shows a big flaw in giving bids to conference champs. Since conferences ignore OOC games, you can get a bad 3-loss OK State team that got routed by South Alabama in a CCG.

If Oklahoma hadn’t lost to this garbage team they would be playing today.

That's who his anger should be directed at. Not BYU, not OSU -- OU. They had their destiny in their hands and got beat by the better team in that game.

IMO, the deeper issue here really is the way OOC games get ignored in conference standings. This is how we get a garbage team like OK State in the title game. No team that gets blown out by South Alabama should be playing for a P5 title.

As for the OU - OK State game, IIRC there was a big missed PI call late that likely cost OU the game.

(12-02-2023 03:13 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 01:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  College football needs to fix that ******* defensive sub rule. Make a guy get in the play quicker. Should be a delay of game on the ******* defense.

I think that there is a rule that the defensive subbing has only so many seconds, and obviously the D will take as long as the refs will give them; I don't think that the offense gets a clear idea of how quickly they have to get their changes made. I'd think there could be a gray area where the refs could call the delay on the D for dogging it, but what that is is not obvious, either to the fans/viewers or to the Off or Def.

The D substituting has to “run” off the field but they don’t dictate how quickly they have to run.

(12-02-2023 03:13 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 01:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  College football needs to fix that ******* defensive sub rule. Make a guy get in the play quicker. Should be a delay of game on the ******* defense.

I think that there is a rule that the defensive subbing has only so many seconds, and obviously the D will take as long as the refs will give them; I don't think that the offense gets a clear idea of how quickly they have to get their changes made. I'd think there could be a gray area where the refs could call the delay on the D for dogging it, but what that is is not obvious, either to the fans/viewers or to the Off or Def.

This is a needless issue. If the officials are going to allow a substitution they need to stop the play clock until the last sub clears the field and then start it back up in the count.

(12-02-2023 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:17 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's very sad that BYU couldn't hold on to their lead last week. We should be watching TX vs OU right now instead of this garbage OK State team.

This situation IMO shows a big flaw in giving bids to conference champs. Since conferences ignore OOC games, you can get a bad 3-loss OK State team that got routed by South Alabama in a CCG.

If Oklahoma hadn’t lost to this garbage team they would be playing today.

That's who his anger should be directed at. Not BYU, not OSU -- OU. They had their destiny in their hands and got beat by the better team in that game.

IMO, the deeper issue here really is the way OOC games get ignored in conference standings. This is how we get a garbage team like OK State in the title game. No team that gets blown out by South Alabama should be playing for a P5 title.

As for the OU - OK State game, IIRC there was a big missed PI call late that likely cost OU the game.

If we are using crazy tie-breakers most years anyway, I wouldn’t be opposed to just taking overall record. Maybe count no more than 2 sub-P4 wins (similar to bowl eligibility rule) so OOC schedules are still respectable.

(12-02-2023 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:17 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's very sad that BYU couldn't hold on to their lead last week. We should be watching TX vs OU right now instead of this garbage OK State team.

This situation IMO shows a big flaw in giving bids to conference champs. Since conferences ignore OOC games, you can get a bad 3-loss OK State team that got routed by South Alabama in a CCG.

If Oklahoma hadn’t lost to this garbage team they would be playing today.

That's who his anger should be directed at. Not BYU, not OSU -- OU. They had their destiny in their hands and got beat by the better team in that game.

IMO, the deeper issue here really is the way OOC games get ignored in conference standings. This is how we get a garbage team like OK State in the title game. No team that gets blown out by South Alabama should be playing for a P5 title.

As for the OU - OK State game, IIRC there was a big missed PI call late that likely cost OU the game.

The bluebloods never lose in quo's world.

Texas says goodbye to Yormark and takes the trophy with them.

Yormark being booed relentlessly, lol

(12-02-2023 03:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Texas says goodbye to Yormark and takes the trophy with them.

He looked sick at his stomach giving Texas the trophy.

Texas fans chanting S-E-C S-E-C
That was savage

Texas actually did to ok st what everyone was predicting Oregon would do to Washington.

SEC ready.

Come join us, our brothers and most hated rivals.

(12-02-2023 03:24 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 03:13 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 01:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  College football needs to fix that ******* defensive sub rule. Make a guy get in the play quicker. Should be a delay of game on the ******* defense.

I think that there is a rule that the defensive subbing has only so many seconds, and obviously the D will take as long as the refs will give them; I don't think that the offense gets a clear idea of how quickly they have to get their changes made. I'd think there could be a gray area where the refs could call the delay on the D for dogging it, but what that is is not obvious, either to the fans/viewers or to the Off or Def.

The D substituting has to “run” off the field but they don’t dictate how quickly they have to run.

They need to give them a reasonable time. That **** wasn't close to reasonable. If a player is gonna absolutely dog it like that, then the offense shouldn't be penalized.

Texas definitely made a statement. This is a program that under the right coaching staff should be an annual NC contender, and this team looks like one.

If ever there was a year for an 8-team playoff this is it. We could have Texas, Ohio State, Oregon and Alabama, all teams that have a realistic ability to win the CCG in a 3 round playoff out. But you can't displace what could well be four undefeated conference champions in Washington, Georgia, Michigan and Florida State.

Texas looked really impressive.

(12-02-2023 03:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Texas fans chanting S-E-C S-E-C
That was savage

Disappointing.

The only time Texas fans should have chanted it was beating Arkansas, Missouri and A&M on their way out the door.

Every SWC team was chanting it the year Arkansas announced they were leaving (except SMU who was just off the death penalty).

(12-02-2023 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 03:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Texas fans chanting S-E-C S-E-C
That was savage

Disappointing.

The only time Texas fans should have chanted it was beating Arkansas, Missouri and A&M on their way out the door.

Every SWC team was chanting it the year Arkansas announced they were leaving (except SMU who was just off the death penalty).

I think it's a big shot in the arm for a once-proud fanbase that hasn't had much to cheer about in the past 15 years. Let the kids chant what they want, as long as it's not something offensive like "B1G".

(12-02-2023 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 03:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Texas fans chanting S-E-C S-E-C
That was savage

Disappointing.

The only time Texas fans should have chanted it was beating Arkansas, Missouri and A&M on their way out the door.

Every SWC team was chanting it the year Arkansas announced they were leaving (except SMU who was just off the death penalty).

Give it up Bullet! All three of your listed schools will be SEC, SEC, SEC next year.

(12-02-2023 03:17 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:17 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 02:12 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It's very sad that BYU couldn't hold on to their lead last week. We should be watching TX vs OU right now instead of this garbage OK State team.

This situation IMO shows a big flaw in giving bids to conference champs. Since conferences ignore OOC games, you can get a bad 3-loss OK State team that got routed by South Alabama in a CCG.

If Oklahoma hadn’t lost to this garbage team they would be playing today.

Have you watched games played in Stillwater? The calls and non-calls are, in a word, "baffling."

Yes, that is true. Our last two trips to Stillwater have been marred by questionable calls. With that said, we (OU) should be good enough to beat both OSU and the Big 12 refs, and we weren't.

Texas had three close conference games (UH, KSU, TCU) that they were able to win. We weren't able to win two of ours (KU, OSU). That's the difference this year.

We lost two conference games to KU and OSU. Part of our fan base may cry foul over that, but that's what happened. We didn't deserve to play for a Big 12 championship.

We might have given Texas a better game, but it would have been difficult to beat them for a second time.

(12-02-2023 04:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-02-2023 03:51 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Texas fans chanting S-E-C S-E-C
That was savage

Disappointing.

The only time Texas fans should have chanted it was beating Arkansas, Missouri and A&M on their way out the door.

Every SWC team was chanting it the year Arkansas announced they were leaving (except SMU who was just off the death penalty).

I was right there with the Longhorn fans on that.

Between the remarks Yormark made in Lubbock in the offseason, the clarification of the CCG tiebreakers (clear these up before the season, not 3/4 of the way through), and the questionable officiating, we're ready for July 1 and to finally assume that SEC patch.