Sunbelt fans are some of the biggest losers and crybabies around. You’re jealous of CUSA I get it, but don’t be a big crybaby about it.

That App State fan is delusional
We get it, you dominated a weak Sunbelt for a few years. Newsflash nobody cares, you are just another G5 like the rest of us.

(12-05-2023 04:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lol...

No one is vindicated by this. They kept undefeated Florida State out of the playoff and then completely disregarded their same logic used for that by putting Liberty in the Fiesta Bowl. The AAC was actually worse than C-USA according o S&P+ yet SMU was discussed over Troy who beat 8 teams who finished the season .500 or better and was the champion of the highest rated G5 conference.

Ultimately, the committee completely ignored their own precedent in selecting the NY6 rep from the G5 by not considering a 2 loss Champ from the best conference over a team from one of the worst. They did this experiment with Western Michigan once and every since then they just went to the AAC, who was at the time the highest rated conference in the G5.

Liberty's leadership deserves credit. They helped build a cupcake conference on par with the MAC and vastly outspent everyone, not scheduling any P5 teams or any team rated higher than 90th in the Massey Ratings and Weasled their way into the Fiesta Bowl.

Now when Oregon comes in and destroys you with their back-ups at most positions, everyone can say "oh look, a G5 champion who was undefeated can't come close to competing with the P5".

The addition of Liberty and absence of Florida State is garbage, and they know it. Boo said "Liberty just kept on winning". But apparently Florida State did not. Lastly, give Boise State, Troy, Tulane, SMU, App State, JMU, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming, Air Force, etc. Liberty's schedule and they'd all have a very, very good shot at going undefeated as well.

Blah, blah, blah

The fact is the Sun Belt is not only the G5 but the only FBS conference that has NEVER sent a team to a major bowl in the BCS/CFP era.

Spin it all you want but facts are facts.

(12-12-2023 03:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 04:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lol...

No one is vindicated by this. They kept undefeated Florida State out of the playoff and then completely disregarded their same logic used for that by putting Liberty in the Fiesta Bowl. The AAC was actually worse than C-USA according o S&P+ yet SMU was discussed over Troy who beat 8 teams who finished the season .500 or better and was the champion of the highest rated G5 conference.

Ultimately, the committee completely ignored their own precedent in selecting the NY6 rep from the G5 by not considering a 2 loss Champ from the best conference over a team from one of the worst. They did this experiment with Western Michigan once and every since then they just went to the AAC, who was at the time the highest rated conference in the G5.

Liberty's leadership deserves credit. They helped build a cupcake conference on par with the MAC and vastly outspent everyone, not scheduling any P5 teams or any team rated higher than 90th in the Massey Ratings and Weasled their way into the Fiesta Bowl.

Now when Oregon comes in and destroys you with their back-ups at most positions, everyone can say "oh look, a G5 champion who was undefeated can't come close to competing with the P5".

The addition of Liberty and absence of Florida State is garbage, and they know it. Boo said "Liberty just kept on winning". But apparently Florida State did not. Lastly, give Boise State, Troy, Tulane, SMU, App State, JMU, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming, Air Force, etc. Liberty's schedule and they'd all have a very, very good shot at going undefeated as well.

Blah, blah, blah

The fact is the Sun Belt is not only the G5 but the only FBS conference that has NEVER sent a team to a major bowl in the BCS/CFP era.

Spin it all you want but facts are facts.

But But But the Sunbelt has a $2million TV contract with ESPN

What a bunch of delusional crybabies

(12-12-2023 06:07 PM)JackedUp Wrote:  

(12-12-2023 03:16 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 04:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lol...

No one is vindicated by this. They kept undefeated Florida State out of the playoff and then completely disregarded their same logic used for that by putting Liberty in the Fiesta Bowl. The AAC was actually worse than C-USA according o S&P+ yet SMU was discussed over Troy who beat 8 teams who finished the season .500 or better and was the champion of the highest rated G5 conference.

Ultimately, the committee completely ignored their own precedent in selecting the NY6 rep from the G5 by not considering a 2 loss Champ from the best conference over a team from one of the worst. They did this experiment with Western Michigan once and every since then they just went to the AAC, who was at the time the highest rated conference in the G5.

Liberty's leadership deserves credit. They helped build a cupcake conference on par with the MAC and vastly outspent everyone, not scheduling any P5 teams or any team rated higher than 90th in the Massey Ratings and Weasled their way into the Fiesta Bowl.

Now when Oregon comes in and destroys you with their back-ups at most positions, everyone can say "oh look, a G5 champion who was undefeated can't come close to competing with the P5".

The addition of Liberty and absence of Florida State is garbage, and they know it. Boo said "Liberty just kept on winning". But apparently Florida State did not. Lastly, give Boise State, Troy, Tulane, SMU, App State, JMU, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming, Air Force, etc. Liberty's schedule and they'd all have a very, very good shot at going undefeated as well.

Blah, blah, blah

The fact is the Sun Belt is not only the G5 but the only FBS conference that has NEVER sent a team to a major bowl in the BCS/CFP era.

Spin it all you want but facts are facts.

But But But the Sunbelt has a $2million TV contract with ESPN

What a bunch of delusional crybabies

Even one of their ADs said it was 1.015 million

Cope harder, coccckkk boys.

(12-12-2023 09:51 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(12-12-2023 09:09 AM)SparkysBurner69 Wrote:  

(12-05-2023 04:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Lol...

No one is vindicated by this. They kept undefeated Florida State out of the playoff and then completely disregarded their same logic used for that by putting Liberty in the Fiesta Bowl. The AAC was actually worse than C-USA according o S&P+ yet SMU was discussed over Troy who beat 8 teams who finished the season .500 or better and was the champion of the highest rated G5 conference.

Ultimately, the committee completely ignored their own precedent in selecting the NY6 rep from the G5 by not considering a 2 loss Champ from the best conference over a team from one of the worst. They did this experiment with Western Michigan once and every since then they just went to the AAC, who was at the time the highest rated conference in the G5.

Liberty's leadership deserves credit. They helped build a cupcake conference on par with the MAC and vastly outspent everyone, not scheduling any P5 teams or any team rated higher than 90th in the Massey Ratings and Weasled their way into the Fiesta Bowl.

Now when Oregon comes in and destroys you with their back-ups at most positions, everyone can say "oh look, a G5 champion who was undefeated can't come close to competing with the P5".

The addition of Liberty and absence of Florida State is garbage, and they know it. Boo said "Liberty just kept on winning". But apparently Florida State did not. Lastly, give Boise State, Troy, Tulane, SMU, App State, JMU, San Jose State, UNLV, Wyoming, Air Force, etc. Liberty's schedule and they'd all have a very, very good shot at going undefeated as well.

Try again, we had ECU, UVA, and Miami Ohio scheduled. Had Wake Forest and UNC scheduled next year. The flames cant make teams play us or control when teams back out the year before a scheduled game is supposed to take place.

Truth. Cincy backed out of our home and home once they got in the Big XII. Getting P5's to play on the road is becoming more and more difficult. So is getting the lower tier P5s to play you at all once you show a pulse. It is body bag games vs Bama/Georgia/Ohio State or nothing and Liberty doesn't need the money from the body bag games like the rest of us do.

Exactly right, no need to risk injury and embarrassment for the Flames against the top teams in the country just for a paycheck. While I understand the need for those games for alot of CUSA teams, that is part the reason why the CUSA has such a bad reputation. We have lots of teams with overall losing records because they are playing teams where they are 30+ point underdogs. The issue now, like you said, is playing the mid level to lower P5 teams. The risk for them is not worth the reward. If they beat a G5 then oh well thats what should have happened, if they lose everyone is asking wtf happened. NIL and the transfer portal has evened up the top G5 schools with the mid to lower P5 schools, which scares the crap out of the conference commisioners and is why so many of them are implementing regulations on what they allow their teams to schedule against. Just sucks when you are seeing growth and everyone wants to point at our SOS. Well, how about your big bad P5 school line up against us; one thing nobody can say about LU is that we are scared to schedule tough teams. Just look at our last 5 years before joining CUSA. You had SEC, ACC, and Big 12. Funny though, once the flames started winning those games or being extremely competitive in them, we got bounced off their future schedules.

(12-13-2023 09:22 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Cope harder, coccckkk boys.

Fiesta Bowl is a hell of a “cope.”

(12-13-2023 01:25 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(12-13-2023 09:22 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  Cope harder, coccckkk boys.

Fiesta Bowl is a hell of a “cope.”

Being the best G5 conference makes coping real easy.